Transmissions to Hocotate - Olimar Video Archive and Critique Thread

[wwwilliam0024]

Pretty intense **** right there ... oli ditto is never gonna be a good team.. specialy against those 2 xD

lul.

 

[DtJ Hilt]

Alright. A bit late but I finally had time to go over your videos, white.

Don't try to up smash Lucario after a down throw. It doesn't work. Short Hop a Forward Air instead.

At low percents, don't back or forward throw, even with blues. Even if it puts the opponent offstage. It's almost always better to set them up for a juggle than put them off stage, unless they have some percents for you to get solid stage control and start an effective edge guard. The same thing can be applied for red and yellow throws but at higher percents too. Don't forward or back throw with reds or yellows.

Stop just jumping at him. It's not a good idea, lol. Make him have to jump at you, it works a lot better. Focus on watching his approaches and punishing them. Predict how he's going to try to get in, and take advantage of it.

Up Throw with Purples. You had a kill at 3:18 but you back threw instead and threw the kill away.

You're running too much between your grab combos. You barely need to dash forward at all for an up smash after a dthrow. And you don't need to dash at all for a forward air. Just jump and attack, haha.

Stop rolling so much D:<

Watch out for the ledge. You're letting him trap you against it way too much and that's no good.

Throw Purples. It's one of Olimar's best moves (if not his best). Take advantage of them when they come up.

Up Smash and Grab extend your hurt box. Be careful challenging Lucario's forward smash with them, it'll oftentimes just get you hit. Don't use them much unless he's in the air.

Don't desperately chase the opponent for juggles. Be patient, wait for them to start coming back towards you. Watch what they do, think about what options they have, think about what options are most appealing to them, that they might take. Down throwing and immediately chasing with an up air usually doesn't work.

When you jump while recovering, whistle. The two go hand in hand.

When you're on the outer area of the second phase of Frigate and the opponent's in the center, fsmash is more effective than grab. It's harder for them to get arouund it since it's higher.

You need to use more forward air, haha. Look for openings where you can fit in a SH Fair.

When recovering, don't use your seocnd jump until you're close to the stage. There are a lot of instances in these videos that you could have easily recovered if you had saved your jump (or used it in general, haha).

When getting back on stage from the ledge and you have a purple up front, a good thing to do is drop from the ledge, use your double jump, a nd throw the purple. It blocks your path and possibly knocks the opponent back. Either way, it gives you a safe return to the stage, in most situations. Not all though, but it's a tool you should learn to use.

You really did do a lot better in the fifth game. Especially teh second half of the fifth game.

You need to use more Neutral Air. Especially when landing. If you land when Nairing someone and land before the last hit of Nair connects, it combos into up smash. Work on that. You're going to need it for kills.

You're Olimar's definitely gotten better since the last time. Keep it up, man. Feel free to ask questions as well. That's often an easy way to get advice, if you have something you know you need help with, or something that's giving you a problem. You can ask in here or IM me if you want

 

[Dnyce]

No offense, but would you mind pointing out the parts that indicate that this is a good team? ^^;

The set we won (winners finals) hasn't been uploaded yet.

That video is the two sets in grand finals. The first set we get 3-0d and second set is 3-2.

Pretty intense **** right there ... oli ditto is never gonna be a good team.. specialy against those 2 xD

lul.

First set against them was 3-2, we won. Second set was 3-0, they won. Third set was 3-2, they won. Considering the other team was not only two nationally strong players, but two who both knew the MU extremely well... I find it strange you say it's not a good team.

But it's your opinion so it's w/e, tell me when you beat larry and tyrant, or even come that close (Rich says he's never beaten that team before, so GL).

 

[Dnyce]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s1ZZ1-QDh2A

 

[Slain Avenger]

The set we won (winners finals) hasn't been uploaded yet.

That video is the two sets in grand finals. The first set we get 3-0d and second set is 3-2.



First set against them was 3-2, we won. Second set was 3-0, they won. Third set was 3-2, they won. Considering the other team was not only two nationally strong players, but two who both knew the MU extremely well... I find it strange you say it's not a good team.

But it's your opinion so it's w/e, tell me when you beat larry and tyrant, or even come that close (Rich says he's never beaten that team before, so GL).

Did you guys practice at all, you pulled off some pretty amazing stuff that seemed so previously coordinated.

 

[Dnyce]

Did you guys practice at all, you pulled off some pretty amazing stuff that seemed so previously coordinated.

Nope, lol. I mean... that was the cool thing. Being olimains since day 1 we just intrinsically knew what the other wanted to do in lots of situations. Though, I have no idea what looked pre-coordinated... I can't watch that w/o flashbacks of the million other things going on at the time x.x
Rich and I have only played olimar against each other like 2-3 times, it was literally just a pick-up and go team, lol.

That's another thing... unpracticed, double oli team... and we did that well.

 

[Slain Avenger]

One thing that actually stuck with me is this one match on Pokemon Stadium where you're both off the left side of the stage and recovered flawlessly. It literally seemed like you had planned for that type of situation :3

 

[RichBrown]

^yeah that was **** LOL

I was actually just thinking about that Fino, I think we've played the ditto literally 2-3 times ever, any other time we play it's random characters lmao

And yeah, both of us have mained Oli from the start so I guess we kinda knew where to go. And yeah that was my first time beating those 2 in a set, though I've only played them in teams 3 times I think but still

I wish FWK had uploaded the matches separately but w/e

 

[Dnyce]

^yeah that was **** LOL

I was actually just thinking about that Fino, I think we've played the ditto literally 2-3 times ever, any other time we play it's random characters lmao

And yeah, both of us have mained Oli from the start so I guess we kinda knew where to go. And yeah that was my first time beating those 2 in a set, though I've only played them in teams 3 times I think but still

I wish FWK had uploaded the matches separately but w/e

It's aight. EC knows how to upload vids cause their spotlight ***s.

I seen vids where the whole set is one vid, but there's an annotation at the beginning that links to the time of the vid of the next match.

 

[Yung Mei]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBXCjqLFF5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL4RcKZk_pM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj3Mq96_EPg


critique a friends oli please

 

[Dnyce]

7 seconds into the game 1 he gets a grab... and doesn't go for a combo...

not worth watching =/

You should show your friend this website so he can at least learn the basics.

 

[TKila]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBXCjqLFF5c
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DL4RcKZk_pM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cj3Mq96_EPg


critique a friends oli please

Man....dunno what to say.............. I Luv You
ur snake friend should learn alot of things....also you too

7 seconds into the game 1 he gets a grab... and doesn't go for a combo...

not worth watching =/

You should show your friend this website so he can at least learn the basics.

FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[wwwilliam0024]

Tournament matches were i placed 2nd! ^_^

the same MK defeated me... mind cheking any errors? or mistakes? plzzzzz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLq8pOh6uEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAE_C02oZMk

 

[Yung Mei]

Man....dunno what to say.............. I Luv You
ur snake friend should learn alot of things....also you too



FTW!!!!!!!!!!!!!

really from colombia?

apenas te entendi, dime otra vez

 

[Asa]

Tournament matches were i placed 2nd! ^_^

the same MK defeated me... mind cheking any errors? or mistakes? plzzzzz

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PLq8pOh6uEo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAE_C02oZMk

your recovery on the ledge was a bit predictable, consider all your options when on the ledge before you act

you would always fsmash after a dthrow-fair combo. it never really paid off. after the first couple times doing it, try to do something different in response to what they do. seemed a little autopilot imo

 

[TKila]

really from colombia?

apenas te entendi, dime otra vez

Yes.... i am from Colombia so....?

pues en general lo que queria decirte es que tu olimar daba para muchos combos y hacias las jugadas mas noobs que e visto con todo el respeto como en el segundo 7 eso era para un combo y sacabas mas o menos minimo 35% y solo hiciste 11% es por eso que el otro decia que no iba a ver mas tu olimar pq fue una jugada noob D:

con respecto a tu amigo Snakele falta moverse con su armamento creo qu eno lo hace bien digamos que se mueve muy regular por ahi.

 

[Yung Mei]

Yes.... i am from Colombia so....?

pues en general lo que queria decirte es que tu olimar daba para muchos combos y hacias las jugadas mas noobs que e visto con todo el respeto como en el segundo 7 eso era para un combo y sacabas mas o menos minimo 35% y solo hiciste 11% es por eso que el otro decia que no iba a ver mas tu olimar pq fue una jugada noob D:

con respecto a tu amigo Snakele falta moverse con su armamento creo qu eno lo hace bien digamos que se mueve muy regular por ahi.

nomas pregunte para saber si si hablavas en espanol

yo era el snake, un amigo mio era el olimar - ya le dije que cheque el foro aqui de Olimar, pero no me hase caso el pendejo

ya se que me haze falta ser maz con mi snake pero eso lo dejo para aprender otra dia

 

[wwwilliam0024]

Bueno sii ya entendi, gracias por los consejos, pero todavia sufro un poco de presion en los torneos, pero ya me estoy controlando, en esa situacion no queria ariesgarme mucho y por eso hacia lo mismo, pero era mas por seguridad y temor a cometer un error grave. Tengo que controlarme mas.

Castellano ftw ^_^

 

[TKila]

Hey guys Watch this.... this was from the National Tournament Smash Colombia D: hope u like it D:

i have more...........

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C2mynMrkenI

 

[wwwilliam0024]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbMbwUb_u_I

Some tourney long ago.

 

[Dnyce]

First one I've seen up
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cbvh7h96fgo

 

[Denti]

So vocal, i officially hate you lmao. It's been OVER HALF A YEAR and my videos still haven't reached the front page. I've asked around 10 times since then and still nothing. I seriously have... no joke XD

 

[Sky Pirate]

Last edited by -Vocal-; 10-10-2010 at 11:51 PM. Reason: Asa, TKila, Zulu, IcyLight, and Denti Videos Added

?

 

[Denti]

whaaaaaaaaaaaaaa blaspheme! Xd

 

[Sky Pirate]

Denti

7/1 & sethlon vs. Espy and Kprime
---Game One -NEW-
---Game Three -NEW-​

It is not, sirrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

 

[Dnyce]

Haven't had a chance to watch set, but here's my set vs nicole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EEO0PKZ3lVE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hqck5_fXzbI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQzVg6y2IFw
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c5mqEeIyPt0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIoYO8oaG08

and here's 4rce and I vs moe and yoshq
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ag1R2bdNpEI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRHORL0vqaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yzx8D2KSsjo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rkErHg6QR4

Shiz still bein uploaded, hope to see more up

 

[wwwilliam0024]

I love nicole! ^_^

 

[Dnyce]

Some friendlies vs stealth
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6unqlDUsUhE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t7tqO7cauyI

 

[Sky Pirate]

A few matches. Not very good, but there are some funny parts.

v. Mike2 (Snake) (1)

v. PantyRaider (Metaknight) (1) (2)

v. Zigsta (Bowser) (1) (2) (3)

v. Zigsta (Wario) (1) (2) (3) (4)

 

[DtJ Hilt]

I have some videos coming up proooobably

 

[Slain Avenger]

Clover's use of whistle bounce and Instant Return is top tier. Nice matches.

 

[Sky Pirate]

Hah, thanks, but my instant return usage was terrible.
The T.V. we were playing on was a little laggy, so I screwed it up sometimes (and if you look at the Snake video, I screwed up ledge plucking when I was playing around with it).

Feel free to read that as "johns johns johns johns".

 

[Jane]

Feel free to read that as "johns johns johns johns".

way ahead of ya (h)

 

[Slain Avenger]

Hah, thanks, but my instant return usage was terrible.
The T.V. we were playing on was a little laggy, so I screwed it up sometimes (and if you look at the Snake video, I screwed up ledge plucking when I was playing around with it).

Feel free to read that as "johns johns johns johns".

You still manage to get it most of the times... I can't get it down once in a tourney match for the life of me :/, butterfingers.


Now that be johns johns johns!

 

[TKila]

Hey guys, this game was in the Colombia National Tournament(08/01/11) - First Round
plz tell me how u think i did if i did wrong if did good, i would like to hear also what do you think of my gameplay and that stuff XD Thx guys Luv U

Olimar VS Falco

Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5R-pUKiRulE
Part 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tr9QZ8HB--Y

 

[Slain Avenger]

From what I could see:

When Falco is spamming SHDL's like that, it just means he's trying to either bait an approach or stun you for a quick approach of his own. You should find a comfortable position and just duck. I know it sounds dumb but it'll make him try to either bdacus, or dash attack to you, or run and shield grab. Stuff like that.

When he does this, standing grab or smash is probably a good bet.

Remember Falco can always try to approach with phantasm, which at many occasiones puts you in the air, where you definitely don't want to be. Always be wary of that.

Don't be afraid to punish falco's landings with pivot grabs, it's better than with most smashes since he can air dodge into the ground fairly quickly. Of course, mix ups are welcomed.

Finally, run around a lot, don't give him a place to target :X.

 

[Sky Pirate]

Umm... Falco can still laser us if we duck. Olimar has a huge head. ^^;

I've only seen the first match so far (my internet's acting up right now), but a few things I noticed:

1. At the beginning of the match, you kept Fthrowing or Bthrowing him when you could have gotten some good damage from a Dthrow combo.
Get used to Dthrowing because it's almost always the best option for us.
(You got a lot better about this later in the game.)

2. Don't just run in and Usmash so much. It gets predictable.

3. Don't roll into him so much. You don't really want to be that close after a roll, especially against a character with a good close-up move (Falco's Jab).
I have this problem to a certain extent myself and it's a really bad habit. T_T

4. Whistle more. It's fun AND useful (especially bouncing :D).

I like how you Utilted his Phantasm early in the match.

I'll watch the rest of the games later (when my internet isn't being jerky) and revise/add to this.

 

[Hai Im Fearless]

just started playing after a 6 month+ hiatus

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mSz2QxwWz1k

the whole set's uploaded

 

[Slain Avenger]

Some Matches Last tourney:

I'll appreciate any critiques since I need to get better for my tourney this Saturday.

Sorry about the bad quality of the matches, tried to get someone to upload but couldn't find. Also, have a song playing, they have almost no audio >.<.

Versus MK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WUg8XMINUE

Versus Marth:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8-ckrzl83xo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnFELII8aOU

Kirby:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NASJiwbQ1PM

Thanks in advance guys :D.

 

[Asa]

Versus MK:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9WUg8XMINUE

if you can grab an mk while he's dair camping he's probably bad. don't bother with trying to grab it lol

when you uaired at 0:55, you were really close to getting daired out of it which would've killed you. watch your spacing on that.

there's no need to use uthrow until you want to kill.

2:16 - where's the punish?

in general i think you're in your shield too much