The 58% combo is not guaranteed though. They can escape the Dtilt -> Grab and Usmash -> Uair part. Dtilt -> Grab works well against fast fallers but even they might be able to escape it. I`m not sure because the combo counter doesn`t register grabs as part of a combo, but I`ve never seen a lv.9 CPU escape it, so I assume it is not easy. It would be great if you could test how it works against good players using fast fallers like Sheik or Fox.
Usmash -> Uair was a true combo before the patch, but now after the increased end lag on Usmash, they have around 10 frames to escape. It`s not much, but if they are expecting it, they can avoid it.
So most of the time the Nair -> Grab -> Uthrow -> Uair combo you were using is the most reliable one, but against heavier characters you can try to extend it even more.
Yeah, I actually had a good example of that yesterday. I was doing a ladder match against a Rosalina & Luma player. I ended up doing (From 0%). B-throw > B-air > U-smash > U-air > B-air (caught the airdodge) it was somewhere around 56%? I'll experiment with Denti tomorrow night to see if I can still do D-Tilt > grab. He mains Shiek so that would definitely help out. Not to mention you could always catch the opponents air dodge and punish with a falling u-air or bair (possibly fair). I'll try and experiment more and try to find an optimal combo to use against heavier characters.
There is a very good thread which lists the kill percents of Uthrow against every character in the game on FD depending on the level of your rage. There are 3 rage levels listed 100-120%, 121-148% and above 148%. And since FD has one of the highest ceilings among legal stages, you will usually kill even sooner on other stages. Here is the link:
http://smashboards.com/threads/repo...ninja-kill-percents-wip.383093/#post-18259333
Thanks! This was a great read and tons of good stuff to know. I had no clue about 3 levels of rage being a thing. I'll definitely be securing my kills easier now haha.
Meteor Dair -> Uair spike -> Utilt -> Uair is a true combo at higher percents and it looks really cool, but at the percents when it works, you could have instead used meteor Dair -> Shadow Sneak or meteor Dair -> Nair which are much easier to land and get the kill just as well. So if you`re in a huge lead and want to style a bit, definitely go for it, but otherwise there are more reliable combos to use from a Dair.
Hold up hold up. You can do D-air > Shadow Sneak to kill? Stop giving me these ideas! I'm about to style on people so much harder now haha.
Great, I`ll definitely watch those games. You can also post them here once they`re uploaded.