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Well hey, your timeline debunks a lot of what my timeline in the OP states, but I thoroughly enjoyed reading it. Currently, I don't believe there's one correct timeline. I believe there are those that are accurate and those that are not, and it's pretty difficult to point out which are which, seeing as how it's such a suggestive idea.
Well we only encountered Ganon in ALttP and that was in the Dark World, so it might be possible that if he had entered the Light World, then he would have become Ganondorf.
-----------------------WW/PH - ST - FSA - ALttP/OoX/LA - LoZ/AoL
I think by the time of LoZ/AoL, the world had completely drained due to the Great Deku Tree's success. I'm going to try and chronicle Hyrule:
Very true. If you're as chronologically confused about the timline as AVGN, you're likely to give up and assume there isn't one.
After all, even our own history is confusing. But, do we cast it all off as bogus? One common misconception is the belief that "history repeats itself". Not true at all. The correct definition of history: "an agreed upon fable."
I think one of the most important things in that interview was this:
So to all timeline naysayers, there's your official debunking right there.
Well that was from 2004 I think, so they may have a timeline worked out by now. Odds are though, and like I've always thought, they know as much about it as we do. We're all kind of figuring it out together, developers and audience, and that's the main thing about the Zelda universe that I love so dearly. We're all in this together.
Does my timeline count as part of "our" timeline? I just added a link to it in the OP, but not the whole image because it would stretch the page out too much.
She's also the first Zelda because the Japanese translation of AoLs manual call her the Shodai Zelda. Which means First Generation, or Founder. I ****ing hate NoA sometimes
Hmm, I think I remember reading this a long time ago but not knowing the credibility behind it, so I passed it off. Can you get us sources? If so, then..She's also the first Zelda because the Japanese translation of AoLs manual call her the Shodai Zelda. Which means First Generation, or Founder. I ****ing hate NoA sometimes
I'd like to note something about LttP/OoX/LA.
The Japanese translations of OoX (from Jacensolo of LA (LegendsAlliance)) make it pretty clear that Zelda has never met Link.
The FS is first quote was before the release of FS. And the opening/manual of FSA makes it quite clear that they have the same Link (prerelease quotes should always be taken with a grain of salt (TWW was stated to be first pre-release, and TP was stated to go between OoT and TWW. And the beta text from FSA shows that it was going to be the SW/IW, but that was scrapped, too).
At this point, I'm honestly not entirely sure why we placed LoZ/AoL after ALttP. I know in my timeline, it comes before due to the Triforce's state. It is never split after ALttP, so how could it be split in LoZ? That's my main reasoning. That timeline is heavily based on the changing state of the Triforce as I found it to be the most significant and universal aspect in the series and therefore, a timeline should rightfully be based around it.
He's gone when you're an adult, yes.. but not when you're a child in the AT. Link exists in the AT up until Ganon's defeat, then he disappears. So presumably, the Happy Mask Salesman leaves Hyrule during OoT while you're sleeping for 7 years to go to Termina, but because you're in the Temple of Light, Skull Kid steals Majora's Mask and destroys Termina. Therefore, by the time you're an adult in OoT, Termina is gone and Skull Kid probably with it (there's no proof that any of the Skull Kids encountered as an adult in the Lost Woods are the Skull Kid).
Ok. http://forums.zeldainformer.com/topic/4132-japanese-re-translations/page__p__36466&#entry36466
I personally take prerelease quotes with a grain of salt. For instance, FSA was the SW prerelease, TWW was supposed to be the first Zelda in the series, and TP was supposed to go between OoT and TWW.
Why is LttP on the AT, though?
IIRC MM takes place a few months after the child ending of OoT. And Ganon took over Hyrule in 1 night. HMS may not have gotten to his destination, or even found the MM, since everything was disrupted by Ganon.
I agree with Sign of Madness as far as this is concerned. Everything I've ever read/studied/been amused by (keep in mind that I'm an astrophysics major, so that's a LOT) has indicated one thing: time travel is f**ked. Domino effect: in the adult timeline, if Ganondorf takes over hyrule, it's possible that HMM's travel plans got messed up, leading to him never meeting the skull kid. OR, if he still made it to Termina, and he still met up with the skull kid, there's still Link. If Link and Epona never go to Termina to find Navi, that's a whole 'nother chain of events that could change events. Another (maybe major?) factor is Tatl. She never joins up with Link because she never gets left behind by the skull kid. Lots of other time questions brought up there. Of course, as has been brought up, the moon could still crash. And, seeing how much time could have passed between games, it still might not have a major impact on the storyline/geography.
Hmm. I like this. A lot.
If you want more/better timeline discussion, I recommend you go to zeldauniverse.net/forums or the legendsalliance forums (just don't go to zeldadungeon).
Read, please.
Since they were made by Capcom, I'm not sure if they're considered part of the main timeline. They don't seem to fit in my opinion. Also, I'm not so sure Miyamoto wants games he didn't create to be officially included in his timeline.
That was MC. You see, those two games speak of events that don't relate much to the rest of the series at all. My theory is that they don't belong in the main timeline, and for fun, they actually take place in an alternate dimension.
We know OoT splits into MM and WW, which in turn is parallel to TP. PH directly follows WW and ST occurs a century following that. That ends the 'gold' block. Jumping ahead here, ALttP most likely follows TP due to the Master Sword's presence sealed in the ruins of the Temple of Time in the Lost Woods, just as it was left in TP. Jumping back now, we're presented with the Four Swords problem. Like explained above, FSA most definitely leads up to ALttP (if anything), and with TMC and FS created purposefully as prequels to FSA, they have to come before in some fashion. In the main timeline, TMC may come before OoT, though I highly doubt it does. There's not a lot explaining why it shouldn't come after TP as opposed to before OoT (which conflicts heavily with the Kokiri, the presence of Malon, Talon, and many other characters from across the series RIGHT before they would reappear in OoT). This is another reason why it may occur in a parallel Hyrule altogether, just as Termina, Holodrum, and Labrynna posed these alternate lands with the same characters. So, green block is settled for now. Now for LA. It is widely speculated that it follows ALttP due to it initially being created as a sequel. Since then, Miyamoto has screwed it up and said that it could be placed anywhere. So where? Well with the current released games, the two contenders are ALttP and OoX.
