Seeing as how you're from Austria, would you mind translating that into English? I can't read a word of it.
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Legend of Zelda Timeline Discussion
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Rapax
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toon_marth
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Rough translation:
Home page: Yes people, the site is now moved! It is now almost officially opened!
The nine page, you can under-www.hyrule legends.de.vu reach!
The site has a new custom made by me Deisgn, Zelda more news, more features! If you liked this page, you will like their new safe too!
The old site will continue to stay online! Since I am still content Biler ect from here still do!
MFG Webmaster your F @ bu
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Timeline roughly states this:
This is the Zelda history. This could certainly bring a little clarity ... and yeaaah, it's long, but actually quite interesting if you are interested in Zelda.
Also:
1) refuted this story, the logical hypothesis that the incoherent parts are Zelda.
2) to clarify why the land of Hyrule OOT / TWW to AlttP / LoZ / AOL so much has changed.
3) Is it simply a good overview of the entire history of Hyrule.
Important to understand: It is assumed that a total of five different Links and Zeldas are called incarnations of the two. It is not the same people, but just as cool as people related with the same "fate". They are all connected, therefore their common name. For the sake of clarity, I like the original the respective periods of the Zeldas and links in one color. In addition, each section is behind the source.
So I wish all the Zelda fans or those who still want to be a lot of fun reading
Incidentally, this story, as seen on the Eng. Page can be read from NOA confirmed. So please no discussion about the veracity of it, yes? ^ ^
"The Legend of Zelda - Timelime"
In the years 0
The legend tells that the three golden goddesses Din, Nayru and Farore the country Hyrule in all its forms and colors created. Before she gen Eden retreated, they left her on earth back Vermächnis: the Triforce. It was made up of three golden triangles, which together every wish of their owner can perform. To hide the Triforce blossomed around a golden land. The Triforce itself was always on the lookout for a man who was worthy of his power to use. (OOT / AlttP)
In 1000
The goddesses of the chosen people of Hylianer made in various parts of the country settled down and gave both their knowledge and traditions of many people on. At about this time, the Kingdom of Hyrule was founded in a small region south of Death Mountain. Perhaps even then the power of the Triforce of this ancient people used. (AlttP)
In 3000
The Great ways, among them Rauru, the way of light, realized that the Triforce into the wrong hands, great disaster to the world could bring. Therefore, it is hidden in the so-called "Golden Land", the Holy Empire, and sealed the entrance. The Triforce is located in the temple since then keeps the light in the middle of the Holy Roman Empire. Its entrance is sealed by the Master Sword, which is itself in the citadel of the time in the Kingdom of Hyrule is custody. (OOT)
In the year 4000
The book by Mudora which all myths and legends of Hyrule, is completed. (AlttP)
In the year 5000
2000 years after the ways the Triforce in the Sacred Realm sealed know not even the sages of the time, where the Triforce is hidden. However, the desire, the infinite power of the Triforce to have among the peoples of Hyrule grown. They suspect one another of hiding the Triforce, thus breaking an evil and bitter civil war in Hyrule from. (OOT)
In the year 5040
Link and Zelda are born. To link against the dangers of war to protect his mother brings him into the lost woods. It takes it to the Great Deku tree and he will be raised Kokiri. (OOT)
In the year 5050
The King of Hyrule agreed to a ceasefire and the country is recovering in a period of peace from the troubles of war. Ganondorf, the king of Gerudos sets in his secret quest for the Triforce continued. (OOT)
In the year 5051
The boys grew up to become link leaves the Kokiri Waldauf the behest of the Deku tree, in order to prevent Ganondorf in the Sacred Realm to arrive. Link will open with the help of the master sword the entrance to the Sacred Realm, but his mind kept for 7 years until he is old enough, his fate as a "hero of time" to fulfill. During this long period it is Ganondorf and his hordes in the Holy Empire intrude. He obtained the Triforce of this force, which gives him the power to "Ganon" to be. The Triforcefragment migrates to the wisdom of that Zelda and Link gets the courage, because the Triforce Ganondorfs the evil intentions and found itself divided.
As Ganondorf returns to Hyrule, he overshadowed with darkness. (OOT)
The years 5051 - 5057
While links soul sleeps, uses the opportunity Ganondorf Hyrule to subjugate and himself as the King of Hyrule to appoint. Only seven years later reverses link as "hero of time" back. He freed the sages and defeated Ganondorf, who then will be at Ganon, but against the united force of the Wise has been unsuccessful. As a result, it is of Zelda banished to the Holy Empire. Zelda Link then sends back to the past and the future of alternative ends. (OOT)
In the year 5051
Link wakes up and remembers the battle with Ganon in the future. Then he warns Zelda and Ganondorf may soon defeated and banished to the Holy Empire be. (OOT)
The second half of the year 5051
Link leaves Hyrule and Zelda, a true friend to find. When he leaves Hyrule, its splinter and fragment of the Triforce is spread throughout Hyrule. The parts are carefully stored in secure cabinets. During his search link gets in an accident in the parallel world Termina, where he was before the world the power of Majoras Mask rescues. (MM)
In the year 5052
While Link is continuing, befielt the King of Hyrule is now tainted by Ganon Sacred Reich, permanently sealed. However Ganons army attacked the castle, but the Royal Knights, the Wise Men from the monsters, and so preserve strengthen the ways Ganons exile in the Holy Empire and seal it forever. This war is a "spell of war" in history. The sacred realm exists in the sequence is not more. (AlttP instructions)
In the year 5300
Almost 250 years later Ganons power is returned, and he kills the descendants of the ways of yesteryear. This allows him from the Holy Empire to escape and return after Hyrule. He again brings darkness over the land and kill the wise men, the master sword the power to donate. He then builds a large tower and raises an army that will conquer Hyrule final. People wait in vain for the hero of time. (TWW)
In the year 5302
Ganondorfs army stormed the castle of Hyrule. In its last desperate hours, the people pray to the gods. These decide Hyrule under a perpetual rain to bury. People are ordered, the highest peaks of their mountains to climb. Meanwhile, the master sword creates a safe area around Hyrule, so the time in frozen Hyrule and Ganondorf is not included in this field can penetrate. This is also the Triforce beyond its possibilities. Ganon himself is caught on the seabed.
Hyrule is now sunk on the seabed, while the remaining islands, mountain peaks, ie, a new life begins. A part of the Triforce of Wisdom is given to the family of the king and their descendants received. At the same time, they have the task before it Any abuse. The king himself and with him also a part of the Triforce of Wisdom in Hyrule remains back to the moment to be expected, where Hyrule again and wakes up again there will be a hero, who can measure with Ganondorf. (TWW)
In the year 5590
On a remote island, a boy named Link was born. At the same time a girl sees the light of the world, once a great pirate captain should be. It is called Tetra. Their fate, however, it is that she is the descendant Zeldas. (TWW)
In the year 5601
Ganondorf has once again raised and is able to build a portal, allowing it to escape to the surface possible. It may take Prohibited Bastion and searches since with the help of his henchmen throughout the ocean after the remaining Triforce parts. The Triforce of Courage is divided into eight factions distributed on the seabed, the Triforce of Wisdom is in the possession of the royal family and the King of Hyrule and the Triforce of Power still owns Ganon. (TWW)
In the year 5602
During its 12th Link Birthday, his sister is kidnapped and he is doing with the help of pirates to save it. On his journey he meets a strange boat, which he calls the Master Sword to find. Link finally finds it after an adventurous ride on the bottom of the sea in Hyrule, where the time is still frozen. When he was but the sword itself is, this raises the spell, and coagulates the time again. This in turn gives Ganon the power to enter Hyrule. Even the sword master may have him in this state does not hurt. Link and Tetra to save his sister and then again on the bottom of the sea, where the King of Hyrule, Tetra reveals that she is a descendant of that Zelda was. He gives her his remaining Triforceteil of wisdom, which she now owns the entire fragment. The King of Hyrule was there the whole time the strange boat from the beginning.
Back on the surface Zelda is suddenly kidnapped by Ganon. Link sets out to save them by giving up the splinters of the fragment of courage einsammelt that his ancestor when leaving Hyrule Termina scattered direction. Thus equipped, finally arrived to link Ganons tower.
That it succeeds in all three Triforcefragmente unite. However, affect the first King of Hyrule, the sacred object and wishes that Hyrule under the waves of good will be buried. Link and Zelda and Ganon can defeat him by the Master Sword to freeze stone. But Hyrule will be buried by water and make Link and Zelda to a new country to see all the new Hyrule will be. (TWW)
In the year 5603
This new, awaited the country, is found and baptized Hyrule. In the year 5700
In the year 5700
Ganon has returned. After including Hyrule Triforce was sunk, he has all the parts and found itself torn. He can, however, by the newly convened seven sages in the black world to be banished.
In the year 6000
Link and Zelda are born in the new Hyrule. It is now the third incarnation of the two.
In the year 6014
Hyrule is suddenly many terrible plagues hit. (AlttP instructions)
In the year 6015
Agahnim appears in Hyrule on. He stops the plagues and is in a very short time close adviser to the king. As a result, he falls secretly the king, and hunt according to the descendants of the Wise. One after another, he brings in the shadow world, in order to liberate Ganon.
Zelda manages to link the legendary hero, telepathically to rescue to ask. This immediately rushes to the rescue and fights against Agahnim, but this succeeds, the destruction of the seal, which Ganon was trapped. Link, however, defeated him and bringing the whole Triforce in his possession. He uses it to much good in the world to do.
At the same time in Hyrule is spreading the rumor that something evil Ganons ash could arise. Everyone makes time to help link is therefore to clarify the matter. (AlttP and Link's Awakening)
In the year 6016
A year later, travel links to the end and he travels back to Hyrule. However, it suddenly a bad storm the ship capsize and he stranded on the island Kokolint. Here he evokes the wind fish and the island disappears. He left behind in the flotsam of his destroyed ship and possibly stranded in the home - on the beaches of Hyrule. (Link's Awakening)
In the year 6100
The entire Triforce, united by a link 85 years ago, is now in the castle of Hyrule. From there, watched it over the land. (Derived from Oracle)
In the year 6493
Link and Zelda are born in Hyrule. They are the fourth incarnation of the two.
In the year 6500
Twinrova developed a plan to revive Ganon, after the link in "AlttP" the Triforce itself took, was again banished. It sends Onox after Holodrum and events after Labrynna and plans so the three flames of sorrow, of despair and Zestörung to ignite. This would initially Ganons soul to bring back to him by resurrecting Zeldas body. (Oracle)
In the year 6505
The Triforce sends Link on a mission to Holodrum. Angekommen, manages to link Onox to defeat. Nevertheless, the flame of destruction sparked. (OOS)
In the year 6507
The Triforce sends Link on a mission again, this time to Labrynna. Link holds events that you Labrynna to destroy, but can not prevent the flames of grief and despair are lit. Zelda while traveling alone on the island to Labrynna link to help. Twinrova abducted them to continue with her pure body revive Ganon. Link succeeds while to save Zelda, but Twinrova sacrifices himself to the Grand Master of evil Ganon to life. Once again, Link defeated Ganon, but this can not be banished. (OOA)
In the year 6510
After Ganon is defeated, use the King of Hyrule, the Triforce for Hyrule to peace and to bring it to some. Before he dies, he hides the Triforce of Courage, by replacing it with a magic key sealed. After he died, his son inherits, the Prince, so only part of the Triforce (wisdom and strength).
An evil magician, the prince, together with the works required by Zelda, that she tells him where the rest of the Triforce is hidden, since the Prince of the deeds of his father does not know. When they refused, she falls into a long sleep. This curse of the evil sorcerer dies and no one can awaken Zelda more. The Prince states that any princess of the royal family from then on should be called Zelda, to which this tragedy will never be forgotten. (AOL instructions)
In the year 6850
350 years after his defeat at the hands of Link Ganons Ash awakes from its slumber. The world frozen in an age of chaos. Ganon makes himself the "prince of darkness" and starts a huge monster army. (Derived from LoZ)
In the year 6900
Link and Zelda are born, possibly in different countries. They are now the fifth incarnation of the two.
In the year 6910
60 years since Ganons prepared army falls in Hyrule and steals the Triforceteil of the force. Zelda cut her part of wisdom therefore in 8 pieces and hidden them in eight dark caves across the country. Ganon kidnappt it then. IMPA, Zeldas Kindermächden will be sent to make a brave hero to be found in violation of Ganon compete. You will find this link, and sets out on the eight parts of the Triforceteil of wisdom. After he entered the Death Mountain and the Silver Arrows has found, he defeated Ganon and takes his strength from the Triforce. (LoZ)
In the year 6916
Although Ganon is defeated, there Hyrule is still no peace. Ganons monsters ravage the country and still there is the possibility of resurrecting Ganon when link him to sacrifice his blood and the ashes will be shed Ganons. As his 16th Link Birthday, appears on his hand Triforcesymbol. Surprised he is going to IMPA to him by the antiquated Zelda told, are still under the curse of the evil wizard is asleep (see years 6510). Link obtained from the Great Palace in the valley of death, the Triforce of Courage and awaken with the help of the whole Triforce Zelda banned from their eternal sleep, and bringing peace to Hyrule. (AOL)
Home page: Yes people, the site is now moved! It is now almost officially opened!
The nine page, you can under-www.hyrule legends.de.vu reach!
The site has a new custom made by me Deisgn, Zelda more news, more features! If you liked this page, you will like their new safe too!
The old site will continue to stay online! Since I am still content Biler ect from here still do!
MFG Webmaster your F @ bu
`````````````
Link bar on the left reads as follows:
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News (Updates)
Contact
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Become a partner
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Glitches and beta videos
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Rpg Maker 2003
Zelda The Golden Land
Zelda Twilight Princess
Zelda Phantom Hourglass
Zelda Wind Waker
Zelda Ocarina of Time
Zelda ALttP
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Timeline roughly states this:
This is the Zelda history. This could certainly bring a little clarity ... and yeaaah, it's long, but actually quite interesting if you are interested in Zelda.
Also:
1) refuted this story, the logical hypothesis that the incoherent parts are Zelda.
2) to clarify why the land of Hyrule OOT / TWW to AlttP / LoZ / AOL so much has changed.
3) Is it simply a good overview of the entire history of Hyrule.
Important to understand: It is assumed that a total of five different Links and Zeldas are called incarnations of the two. It is not the same people, but just as cool as people related with the same "fate". They are all connected, therefore their common name. For the sake of clarity, I like the original the respective periods of the Zeldas and links in one color. In addition, each section is behind the source.
So I wish all the Zelda fans or those who still want to be a lot of fun reading
Incidentally, this story, as seen on the Eng. Page can be read from NOA confirmed. So please no discussion about the veracity of it, yes? ^ ^
"The Legend of Zelda - Timelime"
In the years 0
The legend tells that the three golden goddesses Din, Nayru and Farore the country Hyrule in all its forms and colors created. Before she gen Eden retreated, they left her on earth back Vermächnis: the Triforce. It was made up of three golden triangles, which together every wish of their owner can perform. To hide the Triforce blossomed around a golden land. The Triforce itself was always on the lookout for a man who was worthy of his power to use. (OOT / AlttP)
In 1000
The goddesses of the chosen people of Hylianer made in various parts of the country settled down and gave both their knowledge and traditions of many people on. At about this time, the Kingdom of Hyrule was founded in a small region south of Death Mountain. Perhaps even then the power of the Triforce of this ancient people used. (AlttP)
In 3000
The Great ways, among them Rauru, the way of light, realized that the Triforce into the wrong hands, great disaster to the world could bring. Therefore, it is hidden in the so-called "Golden Land", the Holy Empire, and sealed the entrance. The Triforce is located in the temple since then keeps the light in the middle of the Holy Roman Empire. Its entrance is sealed by the Master Sword, which is itself in the citadel of the time in the Kingdom of Hyrule is custody. (OOT)
In the year 4000
The book by Mudora which all myths and legends of Hyrule, is completed. (AlttP)
In the year 5000
2000 years after the ways the Triforce in the Sacred Realm sealed know not even the sages of the time, where the Triforce is hidden. However, the desire, the infinite power of the Triforce to have among the peoples of Hyrule grown. They suspect one another of hiding the Triforce, thus breaking an evil and bitter civil war in Hyrule from. (OOT)
In the year 5040
Link and Zelda are born. To link against the dangers of war to protect his mother brings him into the lost woods. It takes it to the Great Deku tree and he will be raised Kokiri. (OOT)
In the year 5050
The King of Hyrule agreed to a ceasefire and the country is recovering in a period of peace from the troubles of war. Ganondorf, the king of Gerudos sets in his secret quest for the Triforce continued. (OOT)
In the year 5051
The boys grew up to become link leaves the Kokiri Waldauf the behest of the Deku tree, in order to prevent Ganondorf in the Sacred Realm to arrive. Link will open with the help of the master sword the entrance to the Sacred Realm, but his mind kept for 7 years until he is old enough, his fate as a "hero of time" to fulfill. During this long period it is Ganondorf and his hordes in the Holy Empire intrude. He obtained the Triforce of this force, which gives him the power to "Ganon" to be. The Triforcefragment migrates to the wisdom of that Zelda and Link gets the courage, because the Triforce Ganondorfs the evil intentions and found itself divided.
As Ganondorf returns to Hyrule, he overshadowed with darkness. (OOT)
The years 5051 - 5057
While links soul sleeps, uses the opportunity Ganondorf Hyrule to subjugate and himself as the King of Hyrule to appoint. Only seven years later reverses link as "hero of time" back. He freed the sages and defeated Ganondorf, who then will be at Ganon, but against the united force of the Wise has been unsuccessful. As a result, it is of Zelda banished to the Holy Empire. Zelda Link then sends back to the past and the future of alternative ends. (OOT)
In the year 5051
Link wakes up and remembers the battle with Ganon in the future. Then he warns Zelda and Ganondorf may soon defeated and banished to the Holy Empire be. (OOT)
The second half of the year 5051
Link leaves Hyrule and Zelda, a true friend to find. When he leaves Hyrule, its splinter and fragment of the Triforce is spread throughout Hyrule. The parts are carefully stored in secure cabinets. During his search link gets in an accident in the parallel world Termina, where he was before the world the power of Majoras Mask rescues. (MM)
In the year 5052
While Link is continuing, befielt the King of Hyrule is now tainted by Ganon Sacred Reich, permanently sealed. However Ganons army attacked the castle, but the Royal Knights, the Wise Men from the monsters, and so preserve strengthen the ways Ganons exile in the Holy Empire and seal it forever. This war is a "spell of war" in history. The sacred realm exists in the sequence is not more. (AlttP instructions)
In the year 5300
Almost 250 years later Ganons power is returned, and he kills the descendants of the ways of yesteryear. This allows him from the Holy Empire to escape and return after Hyrule. He again brings darkness over the land and kill the wise men, the master sword the power to donate. He then builds a large tower and raises an army that will conquer Hyrule final. People wait in vain for the hero of time. (TWW)
In the year 5302
Ganondorfs army stormed the castle of Hyrule. In its last desperate hours, the people pray to the gods. These decide Hyrule under a perpetual rain to bury. People are ordered, the highest peaks of their mountains to climb. Meanwhile, the master sword creates a safe area around Hyrule, so the time in frozen Hyrule and Ganondorf is not included in this field can penetrate. This is also the Triforce beyond its possibilities. Ganon himself is caught on the seabed.
Hyrule is now sunk on the seabed, while the remaining islands, mountain peaks, ie, a new life begins. A part of the Triforce of Wisdom is given to the family of the king and their descendants received. At the same time, they have the task before it Any abuse. The king himself and with him also a part of the Triforce of Wisdom in Hyrule remains back to the moment to be expected, where Hyrule again and wakes up again there will be a hero, who can measure with Ganondorf. (TWW)
In the year 5590
On a remote island, a boy named Link was born. At the same time a girl sees the light of the world, once a great pirate captain should be. It is called Tetra. Their fate, however, it is that she is the descendant Zeldas. (TWW)
In the year 5601
Ganondorf has once again raised and is able to build a portal, allowing it to escape to the surface possible. It may take Prohibited Bastion and searches since with the help of his henchmen throughout the ocean after the remaining Triforce parts. The Triforce of Courage is divided into eight factions distributed on the seabed, the Triforce of Wisdom is in the possession of the royal family and the King of Hyrule and the Triforce of Power still owns Ganon. (TWW)
In the year 5602
During its 12th Link Birthday, his sister is kidnapped and he is doing with the help of pirates to save it. On his journey he meets a strange boat, which he calls the Master Sword to find. Link finally finds it after an adventurous ride on the bottom of the sea in Hyrule, where the time is still frozen. When he was but the sword itself is, this raises the spell, and coagulates the time again. This in turn gives Ganon the power to enter Hyrule. Even the sword master may have him in this state does not hurt. Link and Tetra to save his sister and then again on the bottom of the sea, where the King of Hyrule, Tetra reveals that she is a descendant of that Zelda was. He gives her his remaining Triforceteil of wisdom, which she now owns the entire fragment. The King of Hyrule was there the whole time the strange boat from the beginning.
Back on the surface Zelda is suddenly kidnapped by Ganon. Link sets out to save them by giving up the splinters of the fragment of courage einsammelt that his ancestor when leaving Hyrule Termina scattered direction. Thus equipped, finally arrived to link Ganons tower.
That it succeeds in all three Triforcefragmente unite. However, affect the first King of Hyrule, the sacred object and wishes that Hyrule under the waves of good will be buried. Link and Zelda and Ganon can defeat him by the Master Sword to freeze stone. But Hyrule will be buried by water and make Link and Zelda to a new country to see all the new Hyrule will be. (TWW)
In the year 5603
This new, awaited the country, is found and baptized Hyrule. In the year 5700
In the year 5700
Ganon has returned. After including Hyrule Triforce was sunk, he has all the parts and found itself torn. He can, however, by the newly convened seven sages in the black world to be banished.
In the year 6000
Link and Zelda are born in the new Hyrule. It is now the third incarnation of the two.
In the year 6014
Hyrule is suddenly many terrible plagues hit. (AlttP instructions)
In the year 6015
Agahnim appears in Hyrule on. He stops the plagues and is in a very short time close adviser to the king. As a result, he falls secretly the king, and hunt according to the descendants of the Wise. One after another, he brings in the shadow world, in order to liberate Ganon.
Zelda manages to link the legendary hero, telepathically to rescue to ask. This immediately rushes to the rescue and fights against Agahnim, but this succeeds, the destruction of the seal, which Ganon was trapped. Link, however, defeated him and bringing the whole Triforce in his possession. He uses it to much good in the world to do.
At the same time in Hyrule is spreading the rumor that something evil Ganons ash could arise. Everyone makes time to help link is therefore to clarify the matter. (AlttP and Link's Awakening)
In the year 6016
A year later, travel links to the end and he travels back to Hyrule. However, it suddenly a bad storm the ship capsize and he stranded on the island Kokolint. Here he evokes the wind fish and the island disappears. He left behind in the flotsam of his destroyed ship and possibly stranded in the home - on the beaches of Hyrule. (Link's Awakening)
In the year 6100
The entire Triforce, united by a link 85 years ago, is now in the castle of Hyrule. From there, watched it over the land. (Derived from Oracle)
In the year 6493
Link and Zelda are born in Hyrule. They are the fourth incarnation of the two.
In the year 6500
Twinrova developed a plan to revive Ganon, after the link in "AlttP" the Triforce itself took, was again banished. It sends Onox after Holodrum and events after Labrynna and plans so the three flames of sorrow, of despair and Zestörung to ignite. This would initially Ganons soul to bring back to him by resurrecting Zeldas body. (Oracle)
In the year 6505
The Triforce sends Link on a mission to Holodrum. Angekommen, manages to link Onox to defeat. Nevertheless, the flame of destruction sparked. (OOS)
In the year 6507
The Triforce sends Link on a mission again, this time to Labrynna. Link holds events that you Labrynna to destroy, but can not prevent the flames of grief and despair are lit. Zelda while traveling alone on the island to Labrynna link to help. Twinrova abducted them to continue with her pure body revive Ganon. Link succeeds while to save Zelda, but Twinrova sacrifices himself to the Grand Master of evil Ganon to life. Once again, Link defeated Ganon, but this can not be banished. (OOA)
In the year 6510
After Ganon is defeated, use the King of Hyrule, the Triforce for Hyrule to peace and to bring it to some. Before he dies, he hides the Triforce of Courage, by replacing it with a magic key sealed. After he died, his son inherits, the Prince, so only part of the Triforce (wisdom and strength).
An evil magician, the prince, together with the works required by Zelda, that she tells him where the rest of the Triforce is hidden, since the Prince of the deeds of his father does not know. When they refused, she falls into a long sleep. This curse of the evil sorcerer dies and no one can awaken Zelda more. The Prince states that any princess of the royal family from then on should be called Zelda, to which this tragedy will never be forgotten. (AOL instructions)
In the year 6850
350 years after his defeat at the hands of Link Ganons Ash awakes from its slumber. The world frozen in an age of chaos. Ganon makes himself the "prince of darkness" and starts a huge monster army. (Derived from LoZ)
In the year 6900
Link and Zelda are born, possibly in different countries. They are now the fifth incarnation of the two.
In the year 6910
60 years since Ganons prepared army falls in Hyrule and steals the Triforceteil of the force. Zelda cut her part of wisdom therefore in 8 pieces and hidden them in eight dark caves across the country. Ganon kidnappt it then. IMPA, Zeldas Kindermächden will be sent to make a brave hero to be found in violation of Ganon compete. You will find this link, and sets out on the eight parts of the Triforceteil of wisdom. After he entered the Death Mountain and the Silver Arrows has found, he defeated Ganon and takes his strength from the Triforce. (LoZ)
In the year 6916
Although Ganon is defeated, there Hyrule is still no peace. Ganons monsters ravage the country and still there is the possibility of resurrecting Ganon when link him to sacrifice his blood and the ashes will be shed Ganons. As his 16th Link Birthday, appears on his hand Triforcesymbol. Surprised he is going to IMPA to him by the antiquated Zelda told, are still under the curse of the evil wizard is asleep (see years 6510). Link obtained from the Great Palace in the valley of death, the Triforce of Courage and awaken with the help of the whole Triforce Zelda banned from their eternal sleep, and bringing peace to Hyrule. (AOL)
Rapax
Smash Apprentice
Ok, thanks >_>
toon_marth
Smash Ace
Stuck in the google translator, man. 
edit: AHHH 1 LINERZ.
edit: AHHH 1 LINERZ.
Rapax
Smash Apprentice
Lol, i wrote it in word...
But yes, you are right. That would have been much easier and faster xD
Edit: Right? This was your longest post in the whole forum xD
But yes, you are right. That would have been much easier and faster xD
Edit: Right? This was your longest post in the whole forum xD
toon_marth
Smash Ace
toon_marth
Smash Ace
And these Germans could think our timeline is just not enough. Let's at least analyze it first, to see what matches with our timeline and what doesn't, if anything.
Well, the fact that they consider OoS and OoA to happen over the course of a couple years is odd:
If they're willing to space out these canonically linked games, which are directly consecutive, then they're willing to space unrelated games by a thousand years or so. Doesn't explain the lack of technological leaps over these huge allotments of time.
EDIT: They didn't include TP, FS, FSA, or TMC. Was this theory constructed after TWW, which is the latest game in it? Because if so, then this timeline has automatically been debunked.
They happen right after one another. It all takes place basically at once. Twinrova need to sacrifice Veran, Onox, and Zelda all at about the same time so the flames stay lit so that Ganon may be resurrected.
If they're willing to space out these canonically linked games, which are directly consecutive, then they're willing to space unrelated games by a thousand years or so. Doesn't explain the lack of technological leaps over these huge allotments of time.
EDIT: They didn't include TP, FS, FSA, or TMC. Was this theory constructed after TWW, which is the latest game in it? Because if so, then this timeline has automatically been debunked.
wouldn't this be pretty universal though? it seems as if the series as a whole has to span an extremely long time period and yet aside from spirit tracks there doesn't seem to be that much technological advancement, or sometimes the technology seems illogical(for instance, I was just playing MM and noticed that anju's grandmother has a wheel chair that seems to have a control mechanism like you would see on a motorized chair...), I think what technology exists in zelda is kind of...random really. like the world of LTTP seems much less technological than many of the games presumed to be before it
toon_marth
Smash Ace
Well, etecoon, I can't say that I could agree with you any more. The technological development throughout the series doesn't seem to have any particular rate of growth. I mean, we could say that technology peaked sometime after TP, as explained by SWFPZ, but, If indeed it does, than this theory would need a more solid foundation for the production of technology, instead of the spontaneous bursts of technology we see throughout the lands. Also, different areas of the lands have different growth speeds.
Kingdom Come
Smash Lord
THE LEGEND OF ZELDA!!!!!!!
Dude, why does Nintendo always have to be doggone difficult, why couldn't the Legend of Zelda series just always be a retelling of The Legend of Zelda (not the original game, but the Legend itself).
You would have the first two would be their own.
Then ALLTP and LA.
Then OoT and MM.
Then 4S and 4SA.
Oracles.
Then Windwaker and PH.
Then TP and Crossbow training.
It could just be a retelling of the same Legend every single time!
Dude, why does Nintendo always have to be doggone difficult, why couldn't the Legend of Zelda series just always be a retelling of The Legend of Zelda (not the original game, but the Legend itself).
You would have the first two would be their own.
Then ALLTP and LA.
Then OoT and MM.
Then 4S and 4SA.
Oracles.
Then Windwaker and PH.
Then TP and Crossbow training.
It could just be a retelling of the same Legend every single time!
Shade613
Smash Apprentice
Because that isn't fun and the Zelda forum wouldn't exsist.
not really significant, but I remember at one point it being said that WW/TP take place about 100 years after OoT, I'm pretty sure it has to be way longer than that, the prologue to wind waker states that "many generations" passed between ganons defeat and ganon returning, on top of the fact that the great sea doesn't appear to be a newly established world...just overall I wouldn't be surprised if the whole series does in fact take place over thousands and thousands of years
^ Well then one might assume that some of the games take place between OoT and WW. Say it's 300 centuries between the two. A number of Links could rise in that time, and it only takes the last one before the flood to disappear for Ganon to return.
some of the games that don't involve ganon maybe, but aren't most of those presumed to be a lot later or earler(TMC seems to be both depending on who you ask...I still need to finish playing that so I can have a real opinion on it)
edit: a lot of people had this theory before TP was out that it could be the game before WW where ganondorf kills link and thus in history "no hero appeared", I still want that game, it'd be like The Empire Strikes Back of zelda
edit: a lot of people had this theory before TP was out that it could be the game before WW where ganondorf kills link and thus in history "no hero appeared", I still want that game, it'd be like The Empire Strikes Back of zelda
Phantom7
Banned via Warnings
This is impossible, though, because during WW's intro, it states that Ganon returned but no Hero returned. So there couldn't have been any heroes since OoT.
Yes, Ganon returned, but it did not say how many times. It's just that the last time he returned, there was no Link to stop him. Now, I'm not supporting the idea of games actually taking place between OoT and WW, just asserting its possibility.
Phantom7
Banned via Warnings
I think it IS impossible, though, because that opening cutscene seemed to cover every major event relating to the Hero and Ganon between OoT and WW.
EDIT: Also, while playing through WW, I did not discover any evidence of any Heroes between the two games.
EDIT: Also, while playing through WW, I did not discover any evidence of any Heroes between the two games.
Good point guys
I've seen some relatively strong theories before regarding the placement of games between OoT and WW before, so I wanted to bring up the possibility. A large portion of the Zelda community believes that OoT is the first in the series, and it was considered as such until the release of TMC, which prompted the idea of it taking place before the beloved "origin" game. Now it too, is a strongly supported theory, despite never being confirmed by the developers.
Anything is possible.
I've seen some relatively strong theories before regarding the placement of games between OoT and WW before, so I wanted to bring up the possibility. A large portion of the Zelda community believes that OoT is the first in the series, and it was considered as such until the release of TMC, which prompted the idea of it taking place before the beloved "origin" game. Now it too, is a strongly supported theory, despite never being confirmed by the developers.
Anything is possible.
Phantom7
Banned via Warnings
The beginning cutscenes seem to explain a good bit, huh? And by the way, I do believe that TMC comes before OoT; if it didn't, the beginning cutscene would be much different.
Spire, this is off topic, but it's been bothering me lately: who is that in your avatar? EDIT: Never mind; you changed it. But it looks like a similar art style, so where are these mysterious portraits coming from?
Spire, this is off topic, but it's been bothering me lately: who is that in your avatar? EDIT: Never mind; you changed it. But it looks like a similar art style, so where are these mysterious portraits coming from?
Mrs.BlackWaltzX
Smash Journeyman
I'm going to take the time to go through all these pages, and then do some research myself on what I think the time line for this would be.
Also off topic, Phantom, if I'm not mistaken my eye tells me that the man in Spire's avatar is none other than David Bowie. I'm also a fan. Also, 'Station to Station' helped me figure it out quicker. Thought my eye was tricking me.
Also off topic, Phantom, if I'm not mistaken my eye tells me that the man in Spire's avatar is none other than David Bowie. I'm also a fan. Also, 'Station to Station' helped me figure it out quicker. Thought my eye was tricking me.
And Bowie was his name-o! Good eye BlackWaltz.
I do appreciate your enthusiasm in formulating your own timeline. I'm anxious to see what you cook up And remember, I'll render it in the style seen in my own timeline in the OP where it will be displayed to the public.
I do appreciate your enthusiasm in formulating your own timeline. I'm anxious to see what you cook up
And remember, I'll render it in the style seen in my own timeline in the OP where it will be displayed to the public.
Phantom7
Banned via Warnings
David Bowie, huh? Hmm... where did I heard that name from? It sounds so familiar...
I'm also interested in seeing what BlackWaltz ends up with. Remember, though, one way to determine game order (besides playing them in the theorized order in looking for mistakes, which is probably best by the way) is to watch videos of the intros and endings to the games. It's quick and efficient.
I'm also interested in seeing what BlackWaltz ends up with. Remember, though, one way to determine game order (besides playing them in the theorized order in looking for mistakes, which is probably best by the way) is to watch videos of the intros and endings to the games. It's quick and efficient.
They never mention the word "Triforce" once, nor speak of it splitting, but it is inferred that it is split into three due to Link, Zelda, and Ganondorf all possessing a glowing Triforce on their hands.
I always thought, because of that, TP would take place in a separate part of the time line. Usually the games made a point to note what piece of the triforce is being searched for. And being that in OoT all pieces of the triforce are noted, I would think that knowledge would go on.
Sorry. I haven't read much of this topic. I tried, and I think I got most of it, but it was in parts, and each read through was separated by a long wait.
Sorry. I haven't read much of this topic. I tried, and I think I got most of it, but it was in parts, and each read through was separated by a long wait.
Well, the fact remains that the Triforce is seen in engravings, statues, and what not throughout the entirety of the game, so it isn't absent. It just isn't mentioned because it doesn't really play a role in the game at all, or at least not on the surface. Essentially, every legend involving Link, Zelda, and Ganon is a story of the Triforce trying to bring itself together. I think the developers were trying to show that without blatantly telling you of the Triforce's intentions in TP. They wanted to show a more... character-based story unfold without the divinity of the Triforce playing a major role.
EkulTheKing
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To answer the poll... TMC goes first, because the monsters are let into the world, the triforce is nowhere to be found, and vaati is sealed in the four sword. That thing about the hat is a pointless argument IMHO.
My full timeline is:
Adult WW/PH-ST-FS/FSA-ALttP/OoS/OoA/LA-LoZ/AoL
/
TMC-OoT x/y = same Link x-y = different Link
\
Child MM-TP
Any questions go ahead and ask... I wrote a thread on FB that tells it like a story. I could copy it over.
My full timeline is:
Adult WW/PH-ST-FS/FSA-ALttP/OoS/OoA/LA-LoZ/AoL
/
TMC-OoT x/y = same Link x-y = different Link
\
Child MM-TP
Any questions go ahead and ask... I wrote a thread on FB that tells it like a story. I could copy it over.
Welcome to Smash Boards and the LoZ forum, Ekul!
Yes, I'd love to read your story, and I'm sure a number of others would too. Please post.
EkulTheKing
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Hyrule is created by the three goddesses. Termina is also created as a parallel dimension of hyrule. The triforce is created as they leave the world.
The twili and the ooccoo, the first two races created, war over the power of the goddesses (possibly the triforce, possibly another relic, or this could possibly be a struggle over who the goddesses prefer.)
The goddesses intervene and banish the twili to the twilight realm. They also replenish the earth, in order to make up for the banished race. This is the creation of Gorons, Hylians, Zoras, Gerudo, and various other hyrulian races (including monsters). [another possibility is that these races were created earlier, and were simply uninvolved in the twili/ooccoo struggle]
NOTE: The following occurs in northern hyrule (where AoL takes place... more explanation later)
The king of hyrule is out exploring his realm, and discovers the triforce. He has a balanced heart and becomes a benevolent ruler of hyrule
Gustaf is gifted by the picori, and seals the monsters in the bound chest. (TMC backstory) Gustaf may possibly have been the king of hyrule who discovered the triforce, but it doesn't really matter.
Eventually the king becomes old and is preparing to die. This is the sleeping zelda story, which I will summarize. The king knows that his son does not have a balanced heart, and will cause the triforce to split. He explains this to his daughter Zelda, telling her that he entrusts the well-being of the triforce to the sages.
INTERJECTION: the sages are not actual people, they are spiritual manifestations, as indicated in TP. In OoT, the sages "possess" (for lack of a better word) other characters. When they are "awakened" (OoT) the sage within the character is able to show themselves.
The prince inherits the triforce, causing it to split. Magician curses zelda into an eternal sleep. The grieving prince lays her to rest in North Castle (where he had ruled from), and orders that every female child born into the royal household should be named Zelda. His last respect to his sister is to take his people to another land, and leave her in peace. He names his daughter Zelda, and she becomes friends with the smith's grandson, Link. (there could be more generations here, with no effect on the timeline)
Now... let's move into in-game content, rather than backstories.
First game is Minish Cap... and no, its not because of the hat. I guess that's in there, but it isn't really a valid point. The main reasons are because the monsters are released from the bound chest, and Link uses the Picori blade (which becomes the four sword) to seal Vaati (into the sword). Nothing else from the game really applies to the timeline as a whole, except that the monsters continue to spread.
Over time, the sages reclaim the triforce pieces, and recombine them, once again placing them in the sacred realm. They create the temple of time, master sword, and door of time, in order to protect the triforce from evil.
Next in the line is Ocarina of Time:
Explaining the Split Timeline
The most common misconception is that the things you do as Young Link (YL) are from the YL timeline. This is not true.
Everything you do in the game, from the time you receive your fairy, up until you defeat ganon, is in the Adult Link (AL) timeline. When you travel back in time, (lens of truth and spirit temple) you simply change your usage of some of the seven years you spent asleep. (i.e. Say you take two in-game days to beat forest, fire, and water temples. You go back in time, to two days AFTER you drew the master sword.[replacing the sword takes away seven years.] Then, you take 2 days to get the lens of truth. Link is now four days older than when he first drew the sword, and only requires 6 years, and 361 days to become "of age". Drawing the sword adds 7 years to your time, so you become "of age" plus four days. The extra four days come as follows:
2 for the time you spent as young link,
2 for the time you spent in your last turn as adult link.
So... you beat ganon, and the last you see of him is ganondorf being sealed into the sacred realm by the sages.
INTERJECTION: Ganon vs. Ganondorf
Ganondorf the Gerudo King becomes the holder of the triforce of Power. (oot) When he transforms into Ganon (final boss of oot) he is using the triforce of power, and has effectively cursed himself by desiring more power than he should be able to control. (similar to the story of king Midas) Ganon is the name of the demon he creates, but this demon overtakes his body, and eventually becomes independent of its host. From here on out, the demon is Ganon, and the human who created it is Ganondorf.
Ok, back to OoT.
Ganon is sealed into the sacred realm, along with Ganondorf, who has been separated from the demon. Partly because the demon gained power, (mentioned above), partly because Link defeated the demon, allowing ganondorf to overcome his "curse", and partly because of the sage's magic, which, being holy magic, would weaken the "curse" enough that ganondorf could escape. The sages also seal the triforce, believing that the relic of the goddesses should be returned to the sacred realm.
Then comes the scene where Link and Zelda are standing in the clouds. This is the point that creates the timeline split. Zelda wishes to restore the childhood that you had lost, so she uses the ocarina of time to send you back to before you ever met her.
Link, once again a child goes to Zelda, and explains Ganondorf's plot. Together, they go to the king, and convince him that Ganondorf is evil.
The King imprisons him and sentences him to death. (TP backstory, but I won't come back to this for a while yet.)
2 points that linearists have made about the oot ending are as follows:
1) Link still has the symbol of the Triforce of Courage on his hand in the ending pic of him and Zelda in the courtyard.
---This is because he is still experiencing its power, which will again come into ---play later, in the oracles series.
2) If Zelda used the ocarina to send Link back, it would be absent in the YLtimeline.
---They failed to realize that the ocarina, along with the entire realm of Hyrule, would be replicated, and now exist in both timelines.
Now, the most important things we gained from this, is that the Sacred Realm is again sealed, with Ganon, Ganondorf, and the Triforce inside. Ganon and Ganondorf are both alive.
The sacred realm is able to affect both timelines. It did not split because it was in a different dimension than Hyrule. Likewise, Termina is in a different dimension, so there is only one Termina. There are now four dimensions: Sacred Realm, Termina, Hyrule A (A for adult), and Hyrule B .
Link is only in the child timeline.
400 years separate OoT and WW. In these 400 years, ganondorf becomes repentant, and tries to break free of his curse (Ganon). The triforce grants his wish to be cleansed, because it is a sincere wish, and not an evil plot. In addition to cleansing him, the triforce spits him back into hyrule, where he reclaims his position as king of the gerudo.
Ganon's evil power (in the sacred realm) causes the triforce to be split once again. Since the sacred realm is connected to two hyrules, the triforce duplicates itself, and seeks out six holders. (power, wisdom, and courage from each hyrule.) This is what causes the Divine Prank in TP. (no one there would know that, because ganondorf had not been banished from their hyrule.)
In Wind Waker, ganondorf seems to truly be trying to do what is right for his people, and is acting somewhat in goodness, and not completely in a lust for power. (That is what gave me the idea for his repentance theory.) Either way, he still terrorizes Hyrule, and the people pray for help. The goddesses flood Hyrule, and eventually Link is born. (unrelated to oot link.) He obtains the triforce of courage, recovers the master sword, etc. At the end, ganondorf is turned to stone, and buried under the rest of hyrule. Link and Tetra set off to find a new land.
Ending points:
1) Triforce is whole, and once again is sealed in the sacred realm.
2) ganondorf is turned to stone, but would be revived with the removal of the master sword from his head. (Other characters do not know this though.)
3) Deku Tree's plan to restore hyrule by planting trees is in motion, and continues throughout the next few games.
Okay, Link and Tetra/Zelda (oops... spoiler) leave to find a new land, and they wind up in Termina, which had also been flooded.
Reason for being in Termina during Phantom Hourglass:
Termina, as seen in Majora's Mask, appeared to be much more technologically advanced than Hyrule. ex. The Great Bay Temple, All the clocks, etc. Then, in PH, you have a steamboat.
Anyways, Phantom Hourglass doesn't hardly affect the timeline at all.
My best guess for Spirit Tracks is based on these points.
1) Trains... Probably in Termina once again, and likely follows PH, though not immediately, because...
2) Link acts very formally towards Zelda, something that Tetra would not allow, and that he would not do if he knew her well.
So, Termina is drained by the deku tree as well. (to what extent still remains hidden. Since you have a train, you likely play the game on a single land mass, but we don't know that for sure. I figure that you are on one large island.)
A decent amount of time passes between PH and ST, a few generations have gone by, Link and Zelda no longer know each other very well. Stuff happens... etc.
Link and Zelda, possibly from ST, but likely later generations, return to Hyrule to check on the four sword, and more importantly, Vaati's seal. Vaati breaks free and captures Zelda. Link must rescue her. This is Four Swords (remember that the only canon version of ALttP is the SNES one, so we are only evaluating FS here.) It appears to take place in a partially drained version of OoT's Hyrule.
INTERJECTION: The Sacred Realm is a tough concept to understand right
now. Ganon, in the sacred Realm, has influenced the triforce, and caused to grant his wish of ruling Hyrule. However, this was an evil wish, so it instead turned the Sacred Realm into a mirror of Hyrule that became known as the Dark World. The only time that the term "Dark World" applies to the sacred realm, is in ALttP. FSA's "Dark World" that you enter using moon pearls, is just simply a place you are transported to.
Four swords is very simple in terms of the timeline. It takes place in a partially drained Hyrule, and details Link and Zelda re-sealing Vaati into the four sword, this time sealing the four sword in the Sacred Realm, which is slowly becoming a mirror of Hyrule. Believing Hyrule is safe, the people begin to return from Termina.
Four swords adventures has a very similar story. Zelda and Link return to Hyrule to check on the seal of the four sword, and discover that Vaati has been released. This time though, ganondorf is the primary villain. (He escaped his stone seal during the draining of hyrule, and entered the sacred realm.) He captured Zelda and the 6 maidens, and obtained the trident of power, which caused him to be overcome by the demon ganon. (This is why Zelda refers to him as "the ancient demon reborn.") Ganondorf is consumed, and will not be seen again in this side of the timeline.
Link is forced to take the four sword and release vaati in order to save zelda/the maidens.
In the end, Vaati is defeated and ganon is sealed into the four sword. (Remember that this all took place in the sacred realm.)
Now, in ALttP, the map appears to be quite similar to the ocarina of time map, with the exception of the forest, and everything man-made (kakariko village, the castle, etc.) This is the main reason that I believe Hyrule had been drained, rather than a new hyrule being discovered. The lake has shifted East a bit, due to erosion and such, and a new forest has grown where the temple of time was, and the master sword still has been replaced after it was removed from ganondorf, unintentionally reviving him.
So, Kakariko village, and Hyrule Castle were rebuilt, and Hyrule prospered for a time. (everybody travelled back from termina.) Eventually, Hyrule became victim to all kinds of disaster, (ganon's power). Aghanim mysteriously came to the rescue. ALttP occurs, the king dies, maidens are banished to dark world, link saves them etc.
INTERJECTION: Who was Aghanim?
He was a Priest who had been corrupted by Ganon. You actually do defeat him in the light world. When you face him again in the dark world, it is Ganon appearing in a different form.
This is the first game in which Ganon has actually died. The silver arrows are the only weapon that can kill him. In the other games, the light arrows are used to stun him, but even combined with the master sword, they are unable to completely kill him.
That's about half... I'll have more up in a bit ok.
The twili and the ooccoo, the first two races created, war over the power of the goddesses (possibly the triforce, possibly another relic, or this could possibly be a struggle over who the goddesses prefer.)
The goddesses intervene and banish the twili to the twilight realm. They also replenish the earth, in order to make up for the banished race. This is the creation of Gorons, Hylians, Zoras, Gerudo, and various other hyrulian races (including monsters). [another possibility is that these races were created earlier, and were simply uninvolved in the twili/ooccoo struggle]
NOTE: The following occurs in northern hyrule (where AoL takes place... more explanation later)
The king of hyrule is out exploring his realm, and discovers the triforce. He has a balanced heart and becomes a benevolent ruler of hyrule
Gustaf is gifted by the picori, and seals the monsters in the bound chest. (TMC backstory) Gustaf may possibly have been the king of hyrule who discovered the triforce, but it doesn't really matter.
Eventually the king becomes old and is preparing to die. This is the sleeping zelda story, which I will summarize. The king knows that his son does not have a balanced heart, and will cause the triforce to split. He explains this to his daughter Zelda, telling her that he entrusts the well-being of the triforce to the sages.
INTERJECTION: the sages are not actual people, they are spiritual manifestations, as indicated in TP. In OoT, the sages "possess" (for lack of a better word) other characters. When they are "awakened" (OoT) the sage within the character is able to show themselves.
The prince inherits the triforce, causing it to split. Magician curses zelda into an eternal sleep. The grieving prince lays her to rest in North Castle (where he had ruled from), and orders that every female child born into the royal household should be named Zelda. His last respect to his sister is to take his people to another land, and leave her in peace. He names his daughter Zelda, and she becomes friends with the smith's grandson, Link. (there could be more generations here, with no effect on the timeline)
Now... let's move into in-game content, rather than backstories.
First game is Minish Cap... and no, its not because of the hat. I guess that's in there, but it isn't really a valid point. The main reasons are because the monsters are released from the bound chest, and Link uses the Picori blade (which becomes the four sword) to seal Vaati (into the sword). Nothing else from the game really applies to the timeline as a whole, except that the monsters continue to spread.
Over time, the sages reclaim the triforce pieces, and recombine them, once again placing them in the sacred realm. They create the temple of time, master sword, and door of time, in order to protect the triforce from evil.
Next in the line is Ocarina of Time:
Explaining the Split Timeline
The most common misconception is that the things you do as Young Link (YL) are from the YL timeline. This is not true.
Everything you do in the game, from the time you receive your fairy, up until you defeat ganon, is in the Adult Link (AL) timeline. When you travel back in time, (lens of truth and spirit temple) you simply change your usage of some of the seven years you spent asleep. (i.e. Say you take two in-game days to beat forest, fire, and water temples. You go back in time, to two days AFTER you drew the master sword.[replacing the sword takes away seven years.] Then, you take 2 days to get the lens of truth. Link is now four days older than when he first drew the sword, and only requires 6 years, and 361 days to become "of age". Drawing the sword adds 7 years to your time, so you become "of age" plus four days. The extra four days come as follows:
2 for the time you spent as young link,
2 for the time you spent in your last turn as adult link.
So... you beat ganon, and the last you see of him is ganondorf being sealed into the sacred realm by the sages.
INTERJECTION: Ganon vs. Ganondorf
Ganondorf the Gerudo King becomes the holder of the triforce of Power. (oot) When he transforms into Ganon (final boss of oot) he is using the triforce of power, and has effectively cursed himself by desiring more power than he should be able to control. (similar to the story of king Midas) Ganon is the name of the demon he creates, but this demon overtakes his body, and eventually becomes independent of its host. From here on out, the demon is Ganon, and the human who created it is Ganondorf.
Ok, back to OoT.
Ganon is sealed into the sacred realm, along with Ganondorf, who has been separated from the demon. Partly because the demon gained power, (mentioned above), partly because Link defeated the demon, allowing ganondorf to overcome his "curse", and partly because of the sage's magic, which, being holy magic, would weaken the "curse" enough that ganondorf could escape. The sages also seal the triforce, believing that the relic of the goddesses should be returned to the sacred realm.
Then comes the scene where Link and Zelda are standing in the clouds. This is the point that creates the timeline split. Zelda wishes to restore the childhood that you had lost, so she uses the ocarina of time to send you back to before you ever met her.
Link, once again a child goes to Zelda, and explains Ganondorf's plot. Together, they go to the king, and convince him that Ganondorf is evil.
The King imprisons him and sentences him to death. (TP backstory, but I won't come back to this for a while yet.)
2 points that linearists have made about the oot ending are as follows:
1) Link still has the symbol of the Triforce of Courage on his hand in the ending pic of him and Zelda in the courtyard.
---This is because he is still experiencing its power, which will again come into ---play later, in the oracles series.
2) If Zelda used the ocarina to send Link back, it would be absent in the YLtimeline.
---They failed to realize that the ocarina, along with the entire realm of Hyrule, would be replicated, and now exist in both timelines.
Now, the most important things we gained from this, is that the Sacred Realm is again sealed, with Ganon, Ganondorf, and the Triforce inside. Ganon and Ganondorf are both alive.
The sacred realm is able to affect both timelines. It did not split because it was in a different dimension than Hyrule. Likewise, Termina is in a different dimension, so there is only one Termina. There are now four dimensions: Sacred Realm, Termina, Hyrule A (A for adult), and Hyrule B .
Link is only in the child timeline.
400 years separate OoT and WW. In these 400 years, ganondorf becomes repentant, and tries to break free of his curse (Ganon). The triforce grants his wish to be cleansed, because it is a sincere wish, and not an evil plot. In addition to cleansing him, the triforce spits him back into hyrule, where he reclaims his position as king of the gerudo.
Ganon's evil power (in the sacred realm) causes the triforce to be split once again. Since the sacred realm is connected to two hyrules, the triforce duplicates itself, and seeks out six holders. (power, wisdom, and courage from each hyrule.) This is what causes the Divine Prank in TP. (no one there would know that, because ganondorf had not been banished from their hyrule.)
In Wind Waker, ganondorf seems to truly be trying to do what is right for his people, and is acting somewhat in goodness, and not completely in a lust for power. (That is what gave me the idea for his repentance theory.) Either way, he still terrorizes Hyrule, and the people pray for help. The goddesses flood Hyrule, and eventually Link is born. (unrelated to oot link.) He obtains the triforce of courage, recovers the master sword, etc. At the end, ganondorf is turned to stone, and buried under the rest of hyrule. Link and Tetra set off to find a new land.
Ending points:
1) Triforce is whole, and once again is sealed in the sacred realm.
2) ganondorf is turned to stone, but would be revived with the removal of the master sword from his head. (Other characters do not know this though.)
3) Deku Tree's plan to restore hyrule by planting trees is in motion, and continues throughout the next few games.
Okay, Link and Tetra/Zelda (oops... spoiler) leave to find a new land, and they wind up in Termina, which had also been flooded.
Reason for being in Termina during Phantom Hourglass:
Termina, as seen in Majora's Mask, appeared to be much more technologically advanced than Hyrule. ex. The Great Bay Temple, All the clocks, etc. Then, in PH, you have a steamboat.
Anyways, Phantom Hourglass doesn't hardly affect the timeline at all.
My best guess for Spirit Tracks is based on these points.
1) Trains... Probably in Termina once again, and likely follows PH, though not immediately, because...
2) Link acts very formally towards Zelda, something that Tetra would not allow, and that he would not do if he knew her well.
So, Termina is drained by the deku tree as well. (to what extent still remains hidden. Since you have a train, you likely play the game on a single land mass, but we don't know that for sure. I figure that you are on one large island.)
A decent amount of time passes between PH and ST, a few generations have gone by, Link and Zelda no longer know each other very well. Stuff happens... etc.
Link and Zelda, possibly from ST, but likely later generations, return to Hyrule to check on the four sword, and more importantly, Vaati's seal. Vaati breaks free and captures Zelda. Link must rescue her. This is Four Swords (remember that the only canon version of ALttP is the SNES one, so we are only evaluating FS here.) It appears to take place in a partially drained version of OoT's Hyrule.
INTERJECTION: The Sacred Realm is a tough concept to understand right
now. Ganon, in the sacred Realm, has influenced the triforce, and caused to grant his wish of ruling Hyrule. However, this was an evil wish, so it instead turned the Sacred Realm into a mirror of Hyrule that became known as the Dark World. The only time that the term "Dark World" applies to the sacred realm, is in ALttP. FSA's "Dark World" that you enter using moon pearls, is just simply a place you are transported to.
Four swords is very simple in terms of the timeline. It takes place in a partially drained Hyrule, and details Link and Zelda re-sealing Vaati into the four sword, this time sealing the four sword in the Sacred Realm, which is slowly becoming a mirror of Hyrule. Believing Hyrule is safe, the people begin to return from Termina.
Four swords adventures has a very similar story. Zelda and Link return to Hyrule to check on the seal of the four sword, and discover that Vaati has been released. This time though, ganondorf is the primary villain. (He escaped his stone seal during the draining of hyrule, and entered the sacred realm.) He captured Zelda and the 6 maidens, and obtained the trident of power, which caused him to be overcome by the demon ganon. (This is why Zelda refers to him as "the ancient demon reborn.") Ganondorf is consumed, and will not be seen again in this side of the timeline.
Link is forced to take the four sword and release vaati in order to save zelda/the maidens.
In the end, Vaati is defeated and ganon is sealed into the four sword. (Remember that this all took place in the sacred realm.)
Now, in ALttP, the map appears to be quite similar to the ocarina of time map, with the exception of the forest, and everything man-made (kakariko village, the castle, etc.) This is the main reason that I believe Hyrule had been drained, rather than a new hyrule being discovered. The lake has shifted East a bit, due to erosion and such, and a new forest has grown where the temple of time was, and the master sword still has been replaced after it was removed from ganondorf, unintentionally reviving him.
So, Kakariko village, and Hyrule Castle were rebuilt, and Hyrule prospered for a time. (everybody travelled back from termina.) Eventually, Hyrule became victim to all kinds of disaster, (ganon's power). Aghanim mysteriously came to the rescue. ALttP occurs, the king dies, maidens are banished to dark world, link saves them etc.
INTERJECTION: Who was Aghanim?
He was a Priest who had been corrupted by Ganon. You actually do defeat him in the light world. When you face him again in the dark world, it is Ganon appearing in a different form.
This is the first game in which Ganon has actually died. The silver arrows are the only weapon that can kill him. In the other games, the light arrows are used to stun him, but even combined with the master sword, they are unable to completely kill him.
That's about half... I'll have more up in a bit ok.
Well, I'd love to put my ideas in, but I don't think it varies much from what's already been said.
I still hate the idea of Ganon and Ganondorf being two different entities. I would think that Ganondorf becoming Ganon is much like a demon changing form as it grows in power; It's still the same being, just looking kinda cool there.
I still hate the idea of Ganon and Ganondorf being two different entities. I would think that Ganondorf becoming Ganon is much like a demon changing form as it grows in power; It's still the same being, just looking kinda cool there.
I think of Ganon as a demon who spawned from Ganondorf and cannot exist without him. It can only arise when Ganondorf is alive. So they're different beings that share one "node" of existence.
It would be interesting to see the demon Ganon come from another, rather than Ganondorf. This would show how far Ganon has come from Ganondorf, revealing its power to separate itself from its only known anchor to the world.
However, as of now, we've only seen Ganon arise out of Ganondorf.
EkulTheKing
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That's a good point Spire, I think that Ganon, being a separate being, would eventually be able to separate himself from his natural host and thrive within another. The closest thing so far has been Aghanim, and different explanations could lead more or less to this theory. The way I see it though, is that Aghanim is simply possessed by Ganon.
Alright... I'm back with the second half.
The oracle series takes place after ALttP, with the same link. He goes to check on the triforce, which sends him to Holodrum. (I put seasons first because thats how the manga is, and because the soundtracks have the ending music (fighting ganon) on ages. Other than that, there is no evidence for which order they occur in.) He defeats Onox, saves Din, and his transported to Labrynna. He defeats Veran, and saves Nayru.
I put OoX here, because Link's Awakening says that Link from alttp crashed on his journey home after a quest of enlightenment. Since Link typically holds the triforce of courage, his two quests involve him saving Din (power) and Nayru (wisdom). He is becoming more balanced in terms of the triforce.
In the ending, ganon is revived by twinrova. Link defeats ganon, but since he does not have the silver arrows, he can not kill ganon. However, since ganon was barely revived, his defeat leads to him becoming barely more than a spirit (kinda like voldemort in HP1).
Link's Awakening comes next, in which Link is revisited by many of his nightmares, such as ganon, aghanim, moldorm, lanmolas, and armos knights. (all of which he fought in alttp and OoX).
This has no effect on the timeline in any way.
After leaving Koholint (or was it a dream) Link finds a place to lay low for a while. A generation passes, (link now refers to the son of the link we just had)
Ganon gathers followers, and invades Hyrule. Zelda separates the triforce, sending the triforce of courage with the sages, who lead the people northward, to where they first inhabited Hyrule (where sleeping Zelda is). Knowing that ganon will capture her, she splits the triforce of wisdom into eight pieces. Ganon's minions obtain the triforce of power for him, and it makes him strong enough to have form again. He captures Zelda but she refuses to tell him anything about the triforce of wisdom.
Link (son of Link) returns to hyrule, and saves Impa from some monsters. She tells him to save Zelda. He does so, killing Ganon with the Silver Arrows. (note: kills) Ganon is now dead completely.
All the old men/women and shopkeepers in LoZ are hyruleans who stayed behind with impa and zelda.
After Link rescues Zelda, they return to their people in the land northward, where they learn that the sages have hidden the triforce in the great palace, and each created a dungeon as a barrier. One sage sealed himself in with the triforce as an extra protective measure. Impa tells Link about sleeping Zelda, and he rescues her, avoiding Ganon's minions who try to kill him in order to revive Ganon.
That concludes the Adult Timeline. The Child Timeline is considerably shorter, only featuring two games.
After Link is sent back by Zelda, and Ganon's plot is ended by the King of Hyrule, Link travels in search of a friend (believed to be Navi) and somehow ends up in Termina. Link stops Majora's evil scheme, and saves Termina.
Link in Twilight Princess is a descendant of the Link from OoT/MM, by most likely three to four generations (100 years, so it could be as low as 2, or even as high as six or seven.) Personally, I think that OoT Link married Malon, because of the obvious reference in the names Malo and Talo in TP. Also, Epona's descendant is already owned by Link.
So... to explain the Divine Prank, and why the sages were unable to kill ganondorf.
1) The Master Sword is a weapon almost absolutely required to combat ganon/ganondorf. The only 2 exceptions are in OoX, where ganon was weak, and therefore less defended against mortal weaponry, And LoZ, where the Master Sword is not found because it was laid to rest forever after alttp. Instead, you use the silver arrows, which are the only weapon to kill ganondorf. Thus, the sages were unable to kill ganondorf.
2) Ganon, from OoT, has been waiting in the sacred realm, and splits the triforce, which is why it is present in its parts in WW. This also causes holders to be selected in the other dimension of Hyrule, (child timeline).
3) Ganondorf, who is imprisoned in Hyrule receives the triforce of power. He waits patiently until the sages try to execute him, then kills one and escapes.
Near the end of TP, ganondorf summons Dark Beast Ganon with the power of the triforce. Link/Zelda defeat him (no silver arrows, therefore not killed).
I'm not very familiar with TP from here on out, so could somebody please help me finish this last little bit?
I figure the new Zelda Wii will explain a lot for us.
Alright... I'm back with the second half.
The oracle series takes place after ALttP, with the same link. He goes to check on the triforce, which sends him to Holodrum. (I put seasons first because thats how the manga is, and because the soundtracks have the ending music (fighting ganon) on ages. Other than that, there is no evidence for which order they occur in.) He defeats Onox, saves Din, and his transported to Labrynna. He defeats Veran, and saves Nayru.
I put OoX here, because Link's Awakening says that Link from alttp crashed on his journey home after a quest of enlightenment. Since Link typically holds the triforce of courage, his two quests involve him saving Din (power) and Nayru (wisdom). He is becoming more balanced in terms of the triforce.
In the ending, ganon is revived by twinrova. Link defeats ganon, but since he does not have the silver arrows, he can not kill ganon. However, since ganon was barely revived, his defeat leads to him becoming barely more than a spirit (kinda like voldemort in HP1).
Link's Awakening comes next, in which Link is revisited by many of his nightmares, such as ganon, aghanim, moldorm, lanmolas, and armos knights. (all of which he fought in alttp and OoX).
This has no effect on the timeline in any way.
After leaving Koholint (or was it a dream) Link finds a place to lay low for a while. A generation passes, (link now refers to the son of the link we just had)
Ganon gathers followers, and invades Hyrule. Zelda separates the triforce, sending the triforce of courage with the sages, who lead the people northward, to where they first inhabited Hyrule (where sleeping Zelda is). Knowing that ganon will capture her, she splits the triforce of wisdom into eight pieces. Ganon's minions obtain the triforce of power for him, and it makes him strong enough to have form again. He captures Zelda but she refuses to tell him anything about the triforce of wisdom.
Link (son of Link) returns to hyrule, and saves Impa from some monsters. She tells him to save Zelda. He does so, killing Ganon with the Silver Arrows. (note: kills) Ganon is now dead completely.
All the old men/women and shopkeepers in LoZ are hyruleans who stayed behind with impa and zelda.
After Link rescues Zelda, they return to their people in the land northward, where they learn that the sages have hidden the triforce in the great palace, and each created a dungeon as a barrier. One sage sealed himself in with the triforce as an extra protective measure. Impa tells Link about sleeping Zelda, and he rescues her, avoiding Ganon's minions who try to kill him in order to revive Ganon.
That concludes the Adult Timeline. The Child Timeline is considerably shorter, only featuring two games.
After Link is sent back by Zelda, and Ganon's plot is ended by the King of Hyrule, Link travels in search of a friend (believed to be Navi) and somehow ends up in Termina. Link stops Majora's evil scheme, and saves Termina.
Link in Twilight Princess is a descendant of the Link from OoT/MM, by most likely three to four generations (100 years, so it could be as low as 2, or even as high as six or seven.) Personally, I think that OoT Link married Malon, because of the obvious reference in the names Malo and Talo in TP. Also, Epona's descendant is already owned by Link.
So... to explain the Divine Prank, and why the sages were unable to kill ganondorf.
1) The Master Sword is a weapon almost absolutely required to combat ganon/ganondorf. The only 2 exceptions are in OoX, where ganon was weak, and therefore less defended against mortal weaponry, And LoZ, where the Master Sword is not found because it was laid to rest forever after alttp. Instead, you use the silver arrows, which are the only weapon to kill ganondorf. Thus, the sages were unable to kill ganondorf.
2) Ganon, from OoT, has been waiting in the sacred realm, and splits the triforce, which is why it is present in its parts in WW. This also causes holders to be selected in the other dimension of Hyrule, (child timeline).
3) Ganondorf, who is imprisoned in Hyrule receives the triforce of power. He waits patiently until the sages try to execute him, then kills one and escapes.
Near the end of TP, ganondorf summons Dark Beast Ganon with the power of the triforce. Link/Zelda defeat him (no silver arrows, therefore not killed).
I'm not very familiar with TP from here on out, so could somebody please help me finish this last little bit?
I figure the new Zelda Wii will explain a lot for us.
Scott!
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Very, very nice and brilliantly well thought out. Also, I believe it's been confirmed that ST takes place ~100 years after PH, which corroborates your theories on it. And don't get your hopes up on Zelda Wii explaining a lot of TP, since it's been said that it doesn't directly relate to TP in any way.
@ EkulTheKing - I have a big question..
How is Termina still intact if the moon crashed into it in the Adult Timeline? Link never went off to save it, so Majora succeeded in destroying the world (since it's in a parallel dimension to Hyrule). How would it then end up flooded some 400 years later (don't know where you got that number) in WW/PH?
I wrote up an idea for what post-apocalyptic Termina might be like here.
On another, much, much, much more important note, from your timeline, Ekul, I think I may have drawn the ultimate conclusion in the history of the series.
The Legend of Zelda is really all one story about one Zelda - the one who was put to sleep. It is this happening that allows for every following princess to be named Zelda, and consequently, so that "The Legend of Zelda" can continue on. That title applies to both the current Zelda featured in that Legend, and the original Zelda. In the very end of the timeline, Adventure of Link, the first Zelda is finally awakened, and Ganon is finally dead. When she was put to sleep, Ganon was given room to rise, and he thwarted the land for centuries until he was finally killed so she could wake.
I think that may be Nintendo's "Master Timeline Document". It might simply say, "so long as the game is based after Zelda I's sleep spell and before her awakening, then it's fine." Every Legend is like a dream to her, just as we have recurring dreams that change ever so slightly with every occurence. Adventure of Link is the only game to date that is not a Legend of Zelda, because it's the story of her finally being awakened, and Ganon is dead.
... however, upon getting a game over, you're told that Ganon has been resurrected. Therefore, there are no definites in the Zeldaverse. Anything is possible.
How is Termina still intact if the moon crashed into it in the Adult Timeline? Link never went off to save it, so Majora succeeded in destroying the world (since it's in a parallel dimension to Hyrule). How would it then end up flooded some 400 years later (don't know where you got that number) in WW/PH?
I wrote up an idea for what post-apocalyptic Termina might be like here.
On another, much, much, much more important note, from your timeline, Ekul, I think I may have drawn the ultimate conclusion in the history of the series.
The Legend of Zelda is really all one story about one Zelda - the one who was put to sleep. It is this happening that allows for every following princess to be named Zelda, and consequently, so that "The Legend of Zelda" can continue on. That title applies to both the current Zelda featured in that Legend, and the original Zelda. In the very end of the timeline, Adventure of Link, the first Zelda is finally awakened, and Ganon is finally dead. When she was put to sleep, Ganon was given room to rise, and he thwarted the land for centuries until he was finally killed so she could wake.
I think that may be Nintendo's "Master Timeline Document". It might simply say, "so long as the game is based after Zelda I's sleep spell and before her awakening, then it's fine." Every Legend is like a dream to her, just as we have recurring dreams that change ever so slightly with every occurence. Adventure of Link is the only game to date that is not a Legend of Zelda, because it's the story of her finally being awakened, and Ganon is dead.
... however, upon getting a game over, you're told that Ganon has been resurrected. Therefore, there are no definites in the Zeldaverse. Anything is possible.