I abhor your
your list on reads. Simply put is because it's shallow and based purely off who agrees with you and who doesn't. Also the fact you keep putting everyone at "lean this way" "leans that way" without taking a solid stance on them isn't good as well. Your two strongest reads are your scum-read on Nichy and your town-read on Reyth.
What can I say? I didn't have the strongest reads at the time. The read on you, KK, was the only read that was based only on whether you agreed with me. At that point, the July read was influenced by my strong scum Nich read, as she had been acknowledging the points in the case against Nich, but dismissing them with no more reasoning than "i don't see scummy motivation behind it". I'm always wary of that type of defense, especially when someone uses it to defend my top scumpick. Maybe I didn't state it as explicitly in my post, but you can see it's there. For the reads on Nabe and Reyth, note that the fact that their thoughts lined up with mine was brought up as a secondary point. The main reasoning was that they were being active about generating content.
A majority of your posts have been complaining about catching up however those are just null tells in general. There was
one complain post I want to bring up. Which I certainly don't agree to this post. And you also pre-empt yourself to a back netting almost in case Reyth's reasonings catch heat that you have other reasons yourself.
I did have a different reason, which I showed in 1149. It juist took me forever to post it because that's how long it took to reach that point in my catch up. What is there to show that it's scum leaving an out rather than town actually with a different reason?
The fact
this is your very next post seems to show you didn't really think Ran is scum for what he's done. You've already left the backdoor open to dismiss it as poor town play.
No, that's not what I said at all. How does that post in any way imply that I didn't think Ran was scum for what he had done? I was just looking to find more about Reyth's switch to Ran (which came pretty suddenly) -_-
The point of your first paragraph can easily be dismissed as reads changed. Especially considering the rapid speed of this game that you keep bringing up. But you attack him from both sides, you say his original read was bad and his attack on Nabe at the current time is bad as well.
Okay, you're either misrepresenting my posts, or just not reading them clearly enough. Please fix that.
The REASONING for his original read was bad. Here's the reason for his town Nabe read, based on posts 1-176:
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I already explained the SK one, but regarding nabe, he seems to be a rather solid contributor, without being in the forefront."
KK, explain to me how this is good reasoning for a town read? In any case, I was attacking the apparent CONTRADICTION between his case and his original town read. His case took into account plenty of Nabe's 1-176 posts and tries to show scumminess in them, which contradicts his town read based on those posts given earlier. Nich states later when confronted about this that he was wrong about his first town read, which I accepted.
Your next to lines aren't true either because July has been on DG and disagreeing with him. Not agreeing. Also we never went out of our way to quote Nichy boy.
You completely misread my posts.
July went out of her way to quote posts ABOUT DG. Pretty much any time anyone made a post along the lines of "i don't understand the motivation behind dg's play and i don't like it" (which was said a lot), July would be there saying "yeah i agree", without adding anything new.
You seemed to do the same thing whenever someone said Nich was town, although not to as great an extent.
Yet you come back very shortly to go back on what you just said but in a waffly way.
I re-read the case and noticed that he had a point about Nabe's lack of stances, so I clarified. What's scummy about this?
I don't like this one line from your 1067. The bolded bit even more so. It's like you are alluding that you know DeGrey isn't scum so he wouldn't do that. It may just be me but I dislike the wording of it.
I am certainly not alluding that I know DG is not scum, and I don't see how the bolded suggests that at all.
I really dislike this paragraph of you TB. What in the world are you saying with this? Scummy behaviour =/= Scum? Da hell? Isn't that the point, to find scummy behaviour and lynch scummy people? Yet for DeGrey you say it's naive to do so. But at the same time you say he is null-needing pressure.
DG was being anti-town, but that doesn't make him scum. That's the best way I can put my stance on DG, and I've been consistent with that.
In this post, you say some odd things in the second line. Odd meaning you do about everything besides swear upon a bible that we should listen to DeGrey's claim and believe it's more real. "No reason to not believe him." "If he's telling the truth, his claim timing is fine" "Also due to the nature of his restriction."
Don't exaggerate... I do nothing of the sort. I was asked for my opinion of DG's claim, and I gave it. I said I could understand the timing of the claim because of his role.
Next thing is
where you shoot yourself in the foot. You say that you feel he isn't genuine which could be a valid point, but you add the line "I'm sure someone is gonna come in and defend Ran." which is already hurting your argument to begin with.
You left out where I said "defend
with meta", which doesn't really hurt my argument.
Your
1149 is off. The reasons you are accusing Ran for in that post are extremely weak and pretty null overall. It's like you are trying to find other reasons to call him scum to be original.
Why is it null? Why is asking pointless questions that don't help town in an effort to appear town null? I call him scum for my own reasons - I don't give a **** about being original.
Okay you say you wish you had stronger reads at the time which if very off colour. Though to be fair, you forgot to mention you had a strong Reyth town read as of that post.
Why is it off-colour?
Moreover, why do so many of your points against me say "this is off-colour" or "this is odd" without much of an explanation at all?
However! I find your next paragraph completely scummy as hell. You redirect the thing back onto July and get extremely defensive/deflective back onto her.
First off you downplay July again. By saying she's better then this and calling her naive. Then you try and say that "Would Ryker really be this scummy as scum?" Da hell is that as a reason to put him as null? Your reasoning for DeGreyNull is horrendous. It's WIFOM as you said for one. It's meta which you even admit to being poor reasoning. And overall you are saying Scummy Behaviour=/=Scum. I honestly do not get you.
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I said "Would Ryker
unknowingly be this scummy as scum?" Could townRyker ever have a reason to act scummy? Sure. Could scumRyker ever have a reason to act scummy? Sure. Is there anything to suggest that it is one scenario over the other? I don't see anything.
Overall TB I feel your reasonings for a lot of this are weak as hell and not substantial. You don't have a lot of content besides just answering things. I've yet to see you scum-hunt. I also feel your reads are very wishy washy and gives the impression that you've left yourself openings for you to escape out of in case others disagree.
Interesting, because I happen to think a lot of your reasonings here weak as hell and not substantial. Look at how many times you say "this is off-colour" or "this is odd" or "i dislike this" without showing why it's an actual scum tell. I have been scumhunting, but you've either been conveniently ignoring it or it's been lost in the sea of crap that is this thread. My reads will get stronger as time goes on - keep in mind we're still in D1. I'm already starting to solidify some of them.
