Oh **** off.
Swiss making sense, that's unusual, but welcomed anyway.
Could it be?
Nich, you're more confident than you usually are. What's changed? How has your play developed? Why is this good? As of #209, how sure were you T-Block was scum? Do you think you because more forceful after I said I thought him scum? Why or why not?
Don't try to strawman me.
BOO!
Did that scare you? Of course not, there was never a chance of that in the first place. Me openly stating it was a pressure vote was essentially making it an IGMEOY like Ran did with me. That still does carry pressure, and gives me a chance to up the pressure later on should a bad reaction change it into a "real" vote. Anyway, show why it's scummy or be quiet. I'm not liking how you're still pursuing me for that one post and basically ignoring my case on T-block. Although you occasionally point out problems in his posts, it seem odd that your opinion hasn't changed.
@Kawaii
It's a bit meta, really. In FE where he was scum, I never noticed Nabe at all. Here he's been a good deal more active and consistent (although he's not particularly leading, he's challenging people and forcing them to think), which I feel reflects well on him.
X1, do you believe the honesty in this post?
What point did you mean with this, Swiss?
Anyway, on second thought I'm going to extend my challenge to T-block to everyone voting me. Outline why I'm scummy. Yes, I know about the whole pressure vote thing, but aside from that, I have not seen one semi-legit accusation out of the lot of you. So prove that you guys have some actual reasoning. Also, do it IN YOUR OWN WORDS, don't just quote someone and go "I agree with this guy's case".
You nullified a pressure vote by classing it as such.
What townie says "I've done nothing scummy"? How sure are you that you've done nothing scummy?
What would you do if I created a case on you (early game only) posts. Could I do this?
No, I don't think people need to leave backdoors in their first vote, but that's not what's relevant. What's relevant is that he did. It looks like he's trying to avoid making a connection with me, wouldn't you agree? Who cares about whether he actually needed to as scum.
See my 184. I was referring to how he said he was annoyed at the wagon on him.
What benefit would Nich gain from a link between yourselves?
If he flips scum, do you think you'd be lynched?
If he flips town, do you think you'd be cleared?
Does this mean he cannot be Indie as he cannot be sure that you are not scum?
Dunno. I ask a ton of questions as scum all the time so you're probably right. Why did you give three town stances on Nich in one post?
p.s. first time I've had a hand-hold offer
Progressive notes as my reads change post to post. It's useful for me to review in LyLo.
Oh by the way, I fully intend to be in LyLo.
(Why would a townie assume there WILL be a LyLo? Should I not be trying to win before that? Let's allow X1 to bring this point up.)
Swiss, I know you'll deal with this real talk without freaking out and trying to take it as something it's not, so let me ask you what we should do.
Look at Nich here. He's gonna be one of three things.
1.) Scum.
2.) An easy mislynch for scum to push. As long as he isn't option #3, he's sure as hell not getting night killed.
3.) A provable obv town PR that gets forced to claim and Night Killed or, even worse with these time shenanigans, manipulated and still mislynched.
In short, he's a liability later in the game. Do we just remain confident in our ability to read him and trust town not to lynch him on our word? Do we lynch him? Do we cross our fingers and hope for a vig?
I dunno, I feel he's pretty high on the "free player" list. Definitely playing worse than I recall him being.
I can only assume this is Ryker. But something is awry here. Does anyone bring this up? Town points if they do. Why can Nich not be a VT or "un-proveable"? I question your intentions.
Nich isn't a late game liability. He'll be dead by then. Cop and Doc PR's will be swarming over us two 'till D3 at the earliest, so we aren't dying at Night - scum can't risk an early game block, they'll be shooting for the kills. And kills that leave links town won't agree on. Nich is dead, even with this post read by them they'll still kill him.
Why is TBlock town? Content me up baby. Make it as brief as you want, but I
want that read.
Hi Swiss.
Why are you okay with a Nich lynch if you think he's town? What the hell is with your statement on Nabe?
/Skip
Is there anyone point in asking you why you have Swiss as absolute town?
Probably not. You should just be grateful Ryker won't be tunnelling me like some players do. It slows me down. Scumbwarned.
You are grateful, right?
I haven't read beyond #142, but I will say that Nich's #142 looks pretty bad. Still catching up.
I really hope you expand on this.
T-Block, what's your read on Reyth? Not just alignment, but as a player.
Ranmaru you are town. Go forth to LyLo.
Ryker how do you not have Ran as town? The tell was 3 posts back ffs.
This is my first game with Swiss, but I have heard that he is hella hard to read, and the fact that more people didn't jump on his post affirms that for me.
I am, but who did you hear that from? Who in this game do you know? Walk me through your mafia experience thus far.
Why are people judging Ryker on a post made directly to me? Do I look like I'm trying to wagon him for it? No. So gtfo his *** and look at other players like Nabe.
I haven't read beyond it but Nich post #155 is bad for one the same reasons.
I really hope you expand on this.
And the last one.
@DeGrey
You're either scum or a townie with an ego the size of a planet. However, I'm not pursuing a lynch on you unless I get a more reliable scum read on you.
I think it's bigger than a planet
Curious.
Why are you sure DeGrey is town?
Why do you
know.
This is why he's going to have to be lynched, TBlock.
Nich, IT'S BECAUSE I'M NOT TRYING TO LYNCH YOU! IT'S BECAUSE I'M TRYING TO HELP YOU GET OUT OF BEING THE EASY DAY 1 WAGON!
The person you need to respond to about a case is TBlock. Be analytical. Look at his argument and see the reasoning behind it. UNDERSTAND the case and why it has merit. Assuming you're town for a sec, which you're making harder and harder to believe, no one else can see your role PM. It's not obvious and you getting lynched in this exchange is not going to magically make your reads hold more weight. In fact, it's going to make your reads disappear and no one will care anymore. SO AVOID THAT.
Argagagagagagagagagag.
What are you.
You claim to be trying to help Nich avoid a Day 1 mislynch, yet you're blatantly trying to make him look bad? Get out of here.
Throw a lamb to the wolves, then watch if the lamb runs or gets eaten. It tells you a lot.
#325 - V.JPG Gettin' salty already.
It amuses me thoroughly people think I'm town from my intro post. Let's ignore any scum tells and assume I'm town. This game will be much easier that way.
For me, I mean.
@ #354 - Reyth just because Nich is experienced, doesn't make him good. Just because he started playing before anyone else here, doesn't mean he's more experienced. Don't make dangerous assumptions.
You can go to town, though. Still answer anything I may have asked.
Kat, you said Vanz was town, correct? Why? Soup, is Kat doing all the tough work?
Vanz, which half of your hydra is more dominant?
Got to the first post of page 10.
More later.
T-Block, I'm looking at you.
Unvote Vote KawaiiKanagaroo