The Zodiac Braves a NJ/NY Crew *OMG what is that? it's a tree*

[_Yes!_]

LOL at fake brawl.

If you want wavedashing and hitstun just play melee.

>__________>

But haley....no one in melee has their head as a hitbox for their back air

If these hackers make pokefloats i'll orgasm.

 

[Shin Bowser Meow]

LOL at fake brawl.

If you want wavedashing and hitstun just play melee.

>__________>

quoted for truth

 

[Teczer0]

But haley....no one in melee has their head as a hitbox for their back air

If these hackers make pokefloats i'll orgasm.

????

What about Luigi? His head is dam well a hitbox .

 

[_Yes!_]

Luigi has no idea where to put his hitboxes so they're all messed up. That goes for any game. Also, I can be honest in saying that brawl does beat melee in everything BUT gameplay. If they fix the gameplay of brawl, it might be better than melee (as far as mechanics goes.) Character balance would be the next step, or rather...making metaknight not godly. Snake with melee airdodging = combo video footage.

 

[Teczer0]

Luigi has no idea where to put his hitboxes so they're all messed up. That goes for any game. Also, I can be honest in saying that brawl does beat melee in everything BUT gameplay. If they fix the gameplay of brawl, it might be better than melee (as far as mechanics goes.) Character balance would be the next step, or rather...making metaknight not godly. Snake with melee airdodging = combo video footage.

LOL WTF?

Why would you play a game thats LESS fun over a game thats MORE fun?

Better graphics and music are a bonus but that in no way makes brawl even close to melee.

I'd much rather take worse graphics and music any day if the gameplay is better by the margin that melee is to brawl.

If you are so concerned about graphics and music go watch a movie or sumthin >_<.

EDIT: Unless the music and voice acting are as bad as like Star Ocean but thats DEFINITELY not the case.

Brawl fox looks more like a duck LOL.

 

[_Yes!_]

Seriously dude what isn't fun about brawl is the lack of tech skill needed (which their fixing) and the gay purple masked ball with a serrated sword. Who knows maybe they can fix the character balance (IE un-break metaknight and snake, fix d3's down throw so it has a proportional to damage knockback, and maybe even fix gay stages.) If they fix brawl so much that it really becomes what we've all wanted (melee 2.0) what's wrong with saying it could be better?

Fox is sexy no matter what, Haley. It's what's on the inside that counts.

 

[Teczer0]

I think the biggest problem with brawl is that every character can be played more or less the same and less about the tech skill required.

I have no problem saying Brawl is better than Melee IF that was true.

 

[_Yes!_]

True, but when I say they fix everything so it can be Melee 2.0, i mean EVERYTHING so that it can be melee 2.0, including that.

Only thing I'd like gone is whatever Doyoung abuses to cheat so much. I swear he gets better at cheating more and more. (Played him in melee last nite.)

 

[Teczer0]

LOL nothing is wrong with melee .

LOL at Doyoung and is cheating skills. He is too good last time he went to my house he almost beat me by shield stabbing my shield with jiggly fsmashes.

And there was one stock where he SPAMMED fsmash on my shield AND took a stock from me .

 

[teh_spamerer]

Seriously dude what isn't fun about brawl is the lack of tech skill needed (which their fixing), super floaty physics, ****ty options from most throws, and Snake?

No need to thank me.

Who knows

I know.

maybe they can fix the character balance (IE un-break metaknight and snake, fix d3's down throw so it has a proportional to damage knockback, and maybe even fix gay stages.) If they fix brawl so much that it really becomes what we've all wanted (melee 2.0) what's wrong with saying it could be better?

It's NEVER going to be like that. And even IF it gets hacked that much, it's never going to be tournament standard.

1: teh_spamerer (Meta Knight) - Will seriously consider quitting Brawl if idiots ban Meta Knight in NJ
2: Inui (Meta Knight) - Brawl head
3: Bum (Donkey Kong) -
4: Atomsk (Dedede) - Brawl head.
5: Snakeee (Zero Suit Samus) - Brawl head
5: NinjaLink (R.O.B., Marth, Lucario, Diddy Kong) - Brawl head
7: ksizzle (Dedede) -
7: Keitaro (Falco) - Brawl head
9: BlackWaltz - Brawl head
9: Yes! -
9: Eazy -
9: Vex -
13: ChromePirate -
13: rookie - unsure but he's in Pierce's crew and Pierce is a Brawl head
13: Konata - Brawl head
13: iKon -
17: Kai - Brawl head? (I'm guessing he is since he plays Sonic)
17: Blue - Brawl head
17: Gunblade
17: N
17: Cable
17: Munk - unsure but he's in Pierce's crew and Pierce is a Brawl head
17: xzax
17: Will
25: Rule34
25: bschung
25: AAAA - Brawl head
25: UltimaScout - Probably would like it
25: x-o
25: Magus - Will probably be bored as he will be unable to ledgetech up b everyone when they go to edgeguard him because of auto sweetspotting
25: JG Wentworth
25: Alzureo
33: Pierce7d - Brawl head
33: umbra - unsure but he's also in Pierce's crew
33: Walnut
33: Alex - if this is Alex Strife I heard him screaming about Diddy taking tech skill in Brawl
33: Bolas
33: theDoom - thinks PS2 is a bad stage. How is a Brawler who doesn't notice that the stage isn't broken going to approve of making Brawl into something that isn't broken?
33: Mr. Ryu - Inui's college friend
33: Knightmare
33: ErickGM14
33: Ussi
33: Mojo
33: ebo
33: AC
33: rj
33: Warm Soda
33: Purp
49: PRiDE - Brawl head
49: Pope
49: Benzaa
49: Boss
49: Lt. Dan
49: ryko
49: Punishment Devine - Brawl head
49: Kevin
49: Zeebz
49: Ahmer
49: scope
49: Poop
49: PKYMN
49: joker
49: Bleachigo
49: SS762
65: scarp
65: Diem - Wants to keep tripping in
65: Bouse
65: Steve
65: Eclipse
65: Lous Soul
97: Ninja Edd

I only listed people whose opinions I know but something makes me doubt the people who I don't know like Melee since there was like 2-3 people who I didn't know at the Melee setup. Now think...are BRAWL HEADS who LOVE the game even WITH tripping in it going to want it to change? No.

 

[PenUmbra]

I just don't want to get punished for hitting my opponent.

Bad Jab MK. Bad!

Really, there are some things that I wouldn't mind seeing being put in and taken out, but Brawl... idk, just more appealing to me. Melee was fun, but I think I was a casual player of it for far too long. Perhaps that's been imprinted in me.

 

[Teczer0]

Well if you play melee for fun and don't discover all the things you can do you probably aren't going to like the game as much as say me or spam.

I'm in a weird spot. I wanted to take brawl seriously from the beginning than realized I can't win tons of money off of it so I stopped because I only need to use one strategy while playing brawl no matter who my opponent is.

 

[PenUmbra]

I know all the things I CAN do(not anymore, lol). I played casualty, not ignorantly. I just... dunno, I think I got into Melee too late, then Brawl came, and I just became a brawl head as Spam put it.

 

[Teczer0]

LOL there is nothing wrong with playing a game casually.

I play brawl casually .

I'm just saying that melee is really deep with strats and blah blah yea that.

Btw you DON'T know all the things you can do.

The only person on this planet that knows all the things you can do in melee is m2k.

 

[BlackWaltzX]

If you like Brawl, you are an idiot apparently. ):

 

[_Yes!_]

Kashif:

As far as tourney standard goes, I couldn't care less if it's used in tourney or not because I don't make money off this game like you do.

I don't know all the people on that list, but the only people I play with regularly are you, keitaro, eazy, and sneak. I know you liked it, but doubt it'll be standard, and therefore don't want to play it. I know Keitaro didn't like it. I know Eazy, Sneak, and I liked it.

 

[Eazy23]

Lmao, its fine to like brawl. It's not however, unfair to say that Melee has more to offer in every aspect as far as competition and self respect lol. Anyone who plays brawl competitively who has played melee competitively enjoys which game more? I willing to say over 90% like the game Melee more.

Melee has over brawl for the competitive gamer- Overall gameplay, critical thinking, combo's for punishers instead of broken chain grabs, overpowered and ranged moves, or quick multihitting aerials that autocombo. The game moves so much faster, therefore players have the ability to see their game enhance as they are able to move their character faster. Players get a strong sense of being skilled in melee, because you honestly get what you put in. Winning takes time, and in MOST caases, you respect those that beat you as better. You get to feel accomplished once you learn how to deal with problem matchups. You also rarely have to put yourself in a position of feeling like a d!ck for something you've done while playing.( with the exception of chaingrabbing a link with sheik or something, thats pretty lame)

Brawl has over melee for a competitive gamer- Higher reward system for a very simple strategy. Players get to feel accomplished and skilled by doing almost nothing when compared to the effort of playing melee. Chaingrabbing, throwing autocombo projectiles(pikmin,diddy), ftilting and tornadoing. There are probably tons more simple to do things in brawl that reward on such a high level. Who really feels accomplished when doing any of this? Surely no Melee player who had any success.

Who remembers when they first learned to wavedash, chaingrab, waveland, shl, waveshine, pillar etc?There are so many strategies in melee that took alot of time to master and STILL didn't get you to where you needed be because it simply toook time. Di'ing for instance, was essential to playing well in Melee. I to this day learn new things about di that help me live longer.

I mean honestly, Brawl allows people to get ahead of themselves way to easily. You can camp someone and feel mroe skilled and talented. How often were there nubs thinking they were better than ranked players in melee? How many simple, set strategies, designed around patience rather than gaming ability were used on an effective level resulting in stupid wins? Not many.( Not including times when like jigglymaster ***** eggm with uthrow rest LMAO)

If you want to feel good compared to people, even when being pretty bad at a game all around Brawl is great, honestly. Its pretty fun and it doesnt take much to get some wins.

But if you want to put alot of work in, see REAL results in your gameplay, and feel honestly accomplished with every tourny win and every progressive checkpoint in your playing, Melee has it hands down. And that is completely fair to say. I'm not just spewing it, I'm right.

 

[Teczer0]

Lmao, its fine to like brawl. It's not however, unfair to say that Melee has more to offer in every aspect as far as competition and self respect lol. Anyone who plays brawl competitively who has played melee competitively enjoys which game more? I willing to say over 90% like the game Melee more.

Melee has over brawl for the competitive gamer- Overall gameplay, critical thinking, combo's for punishers instead of broken chain grabs, overpowered and ranged moves, or quick multihitting aerials that autocombo. The game moves so much faster, therefore players have the ability to see their game enhance as they are able to move their character faster. Players get a strong sense of being skilled in melee, because you honestly get what you put in. Winning takes time, and in MOST caases, you respect those that beat you as better. You get to feel accomplished once you learn how to deal with problem matchups. You also rarely have to put yourself in a position of feeling like a d!ck for something you've done while playing.( with the exception of chaingrabbing a link with sheik or something, thats pretty lame)

Brawl has over melee for a competitive gamer- Higher reward system for a very simple strategy. Players get to feel accomplished and skilled by doing almost nothing when compared to the effort of playing melee. Chaingrabbing, throwing autocombo projectiles(pikmin,diddy), ftilting and tornadoing. There are probably tons more simple to do things in brawl that reward on such a high level. Who really feels accomplished when doing any of this? Surely no Melee player who had any success.

Who remembers when they first learned to wavedash, chaingrab, waveland, shl, waveshine, pillar etc?There are so many strategies in melee that took alot of time to master and STILL didn't get you to where you needed be because it simply toook time. Di'ing for instance, was essential to playing well in Melee. I to this day learn new things about di that help me live longer.

I mean honestly, Brawl allows people to get ahead of themselves way to easily. You can camp someone and feel mroe skilled and talented. How often were there nubs thinking they were better than ranked players in melee? How many simple, set strategies, designed around patience rather than gaming ability were used on an effective level resulting in stupid wins? Not many.( Not including times when like jigglymaster ***** eggm with uthrow rest LMAO)

If you want to feel good compared to people, even when being pretty bad at a game all around Brawl is great, honestly. Its pretty fun and it doesnt take much to get some wins.

But if you want to put alot of work in, see REAL results in your gameplay, and feel honestly accomplished with every tourny win and every progressive checkpoint in your playing, Melee has it hands down. And that is completely fair to say. I'm not just spewing it, I'm right.

Is this english class?

Melee isn't THAT hard ... >_> SHL is easy once you learn short hop.

And waveshines is easy once you learn wavedashing.

I think you're going to become the next Dark pch and write essays everywhere

 

[Eazy23]

Is this english class?

Melee isn't THAT hard ... >_> SHL is easy once you learn short hop.

And waveshines is easy once you learn wavedashing.

I think you're going to become the next Dark pch and write essays everywhere

lol

Learning to sh, then shl is still a timely process. No one lasers smoothely faster than they learned to d3 cg or falco cg or even throwing bananas lmao. People learn to throw bananas within minutes dude. shl took time to perfect.

And melee isnt as hard as like takin a hole hose in the butt, but its still much harder than brawl. My tech skill> yours, so u have no clue how nice it feels to be this daaam sexy with a gc controller! llolololol

N if Darkpeach was writing post about melee being beast over brawl, I doubt anyone would have a problem.

 

[Teczer0]

LOL no its not LMAO

Your tech skill > My tech skill?

Really?

But you lost vs sheik with falco .

I actually still can't do dedede's CG LOL

LOL at Dark Eazy23

 

[Snakeee]

Both games you need to use your head a lot, maybe Brawl more so than Melee. Obviously Melee has more tech skill. Actually tech skill was about the only thing I DID have in Melee (Teczero I don't know if you remember me teching the ledge 10 times against you at Pound 3 XD), yet I still think I like Brawl a little better. It's just a matter of opinion to me I don't agree with the whole logic that Melee is the more competitive game. I also don't think you can just keep doing the same strategy to win, that's why I don't lose to many Metaknight players because I know everything they're going to do and I learned how to punish them.

 

[NinjaLink]

<====brawl head? Says who? I play both games. I like fightin games in general.
U dont really kno my opinion spam.

 

[teh_spamerer]

<====brawl head? Says who? I play both games. I like fightin games in general.
U dont really kno my opinion spam.

When I said Brawl head I didn't mean mindless idiot who thinks Brawl is divine light descended from God and Melee is trash, though a lot of Brawl heads DO have that opinion . I meant someone who thinks Brawl AS IS isn't a bad game.

Also @ Snakeee, doing the same strategy seems to work fine for me

 

[Teczer0]

Both games you need to use your head a lot, maybe Brawl more so than Melee. Obviously Melee has more tech skill. Actually tech skill was about the only thing I DID have in Melee (Teczero I don't know if you remember me teching the ledge 10 times against you at Pound 3 XD), yet I still think I like Brawl a little better. It's just a matter of opinion to me I don't agree with the whole logic that Melee is the more competitive game. I also don't think you can just keep doing the same strategy to win, that's why I don't lose to many Metaknight players because I know everything they're going to do and I learned how to punish them.

O_O Thats pretty sick lol

Btw I think melee doesn't need THAT much tech skill unless your character demands it, as in not every character needs it to such a high extent. And to play a decent character in melee you don't require obscene amount of tech skill. SW would be hands down the best melee player in the world if that was true.

I disagree with you on the think more about brawl really. Defensive options are often stronger than offensive ones. And this applies to most characters in the game. So what is there to think about? How you camp I guess maybe.

IMO melee is more competitive your right to disagree is fine really. I'm not here to try to make you convert games or something.

You are a smart guy Snakeee and you are good at what you do. I'm a little disappointed you really just played melee and thought more of it as pushing buttons rather than thinking things out.

Its making me think that just because brawl has less of a technical aspect you decided to use your brain more. Which is unfortunate, in my view you probably coulda been a much better melee player than you were if you didn't think tech skill played such a gargantuan role.

 

[Snakeee]

Well, you have a point but I'm not saying Brawl makes you use your head more really. They both do, I just mean it wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to believe that Brawl has more mindgames. And yeah, when I played Melee I did at first play entirely by the book. I kept asking people what to do in just about every situation, but eventually I did realize that there was much more to it than that. I started getting up there in Melee just too late, and then I just kind of dropped it when Brawl came out.
I do love both games though, and I still try Melee once in a while

 

[Pierce7d]

What's up everyone. I'm tired, and ill, and mad, and not coming to the monthly. Have fun, and good luck ZB.

Why am I mad?

http://www.smashboards.com/showpost.php?p=5601111&postcount=219

 

[Teczer0]

Well, you have a point but I'm not saying Brawl makes you use your head more really. They both do, I just mean it wouldn't be a ridiculous notion to believe that Brawl has more mindgames. And yeah, when I played Melee I did at first play entirely by the book. I kept asking people what to do in just about every situation, but eventually I did realize that there was much more to it than that. I started getting up there in Melee just too late, and then I just kind of dropped it when Brawl came out.
I do love both games though, and I still try Melee once in a while

Its your opinion.

I think high level melee is more thought based than high level brawl.

But if you think the reverse I disagree but idc enough to argue about it.

I still think you're an awesome person and would still love to hang out with you in tournies or whatever .

 

[_Yes!_]

I think Tec0 is brawllover

 

[Pierce7d]

lol, I just saw your signature. Awesome.

Crew, who's coming with me to Rutgers on Thursday? (C wat i did thar yehs?)

 

[Pierce7d]

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162447

All Zodiac Braves need to begin studying.

 

[Taiki]

Stupid question: study what?

 

[_Yes!_]

Study me. Your post count will skyrocket if you pay attention :D

10threadspamming.

 

[Pierce7d]

The information in the links in that thread.

 

[Taiki]

....Which thread you linked us to the atlantic north forum

 

[Pierce7d]

I made a mistake. I was doing a lot of C & P at the time. I fixed the link, and it's also here:

http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=162447

 

[Bnzaaa]

Good stuff at the bi-weekly on Friday guys. It was nice seeing you guys and way to rep NJ and your crew.

 

[Rykoshet]

17th isnt good enough

 

[Pierce7d]

Ryko, any details? Who won?

 

[Rykoshet]

I left after I lost because I had to go find my keys. The pools kind of ****ed things up pretty big, 32 people got ****** hard by time restrictions. Rookie, RJ and myself made top 32 out of 170 (atomsk was convinced I was bull****ting when I said I made it, to which I said '**** you' a good 5 or so times, though honestly lightheartedly), pretty sure RJ got within 9th place while rookie and I took 17th. Went marth a couple times actually, did fairly well with him. All in all I'm unsatisfied though, maybe I'm just a perfectionist with something that is anything but.

Oh well, more practice, more practice, more practice.

For the record I lost to jtails and vec (a luigi player)

 

[soul ark]

you got home sooner than i did im jealous good stuff rookie and ryko