The WUSSIFICATION of America!

[Fatmanonice]

Queers are lulzy.

Bi guys also seem to have a reputation for being more masculine than guys who identify as gay.

I kind of mentioned that earlier because, from what I've seen at least, Bi men usually go after guys with feminine personality traits.

 

[Teran]

I kind of mentioned that earlier because, from what I've seen at least, Bi men usually go after guys with feminine personality traits.

Oh really?
That's most intriguing. Please, tell me more.

 

[El Nino]

Hey shove it ***got.

Where do you prefer it?

No you're totally right, gay people are a ****ing disgrace for the most part.
No wonder everyone hates them.

They tried to destroy marriage.

I kind of mentioned that earlier because, from what I've seen at least, Bi men usually go after guys with feminine personality traits.

Yeah, I see that too. Some gay guys complain about there being too many femmes in the gay community, and there's usually always a demand for the masculine-could-pass-for-straight type.

So, I guess it works out.

 

[Fatmanonice]

Oh really?
That's most intriguing. Please, tell me more.

LOL whut? I'm not sure what else I'm supposed to say.

@ El Nino:

Let's not turn this into a gay marriage debate. Really, I'd hate to see this thread closed.

 

[Youko]

Yeah, I was going to say, you guys are treading on dangerous ground.

As a moderator, I'm going to ask that you guys get back on topic, that being male/female relationships and attraction.

 

[|RK|]

Oh, and I'm not nice to manipulate women, it's just my character.

 

[El Nino]

Oh fine. One last word on pick up lines.

A female coworker said that the worst pick up line she ever got at a bar/club came from some creepy thirty-something year old dude:

"So, what high school do you go to?"

Though, I guess since most of you are in high school, you wouldn't find that creepy. But, trust me, post-high school, it's creepy.

The second worst pick up line she ever got was:

"If I were to use a really bad pick up line right now, what is the worst thing you could come up with to send me away?"

If you are female though, you are allowed to use pick up lines on a guy. The best one would probably be some variation of:

"Hi."

 

[Cherry64]

Oh fine. One last word on pick up lines.

A female coworker said that the worst pick up line she ever got at a bar/club came from some creepy thirty-something year old dude:

"So, what high school do you go to?"

Though, I guess since most of you are in high school, you wouldn't find that creepy. But, trust me, post-high school, it's creepy.

The second worst pick up line she ever got was:

"If I were to use a really bad pick up line right now, what is the worst thing you could come up with to send me away?"

If you are female though, you are allowed to use pick up lines on a guy. The best one would probably be some variation of:

"Hi."

Buddah, I love you-nohomo.

When it comes to getting men, women have it easy. As nino said though all they have to do is Say hi and then we get to A) ruin it or B) enjoy the fun little ride.

sadly though when a womans ays hi, it's mainy because she looks like Skeletor.
I have talked to girls about it and they say that they are too good looking to have to actually start a conversation with a guy, Which is true. Thus if a girl starts a conversation at a bar and sounds kind of drunk, Watch out.

 

[Teran]

If you are female though, you are allowed to use pick up lines on a guy. The best one would probably be some variation of:

"Wanna f***?"

Fix'd for you there.
It really is that simple if you're adequately good looking.

 

[Livvers]

I have talked to girls about it and they say that they are too good looking to have to actually start a conversation with a guy,

Why work when you don't have to

 

[Teran]

Why work when you don't have to

It's stuff like this that makes me glad I'm gay.
Then girls feel offended at my lack of interest in them because all my immediate company thinks I'm straight. So, I make them feel inadequate. Thoroughly deserved too.

 

[Livvers]

Lol. Good luck on a guy making me feel inaduquate or offending me because they're not interested in me.

If a girl gets offended because a guy doesn't go after them, it is deserved(and funny enough they may be falling into a trap). I hate women who can dish but not take.

Oh and also, gay guys do this too. They're not exempt.

 

[Teran]

Oh and also, gay guys do this too. They're not exempt.

Did I say they didn't?
In fact, I never chase guys, they can come to me.
My arrogance with men makes up for me being second best to my best friend with girls.

Rock rock rock the boat.

 

[Livvers]

Oooooh derp I get what you meant then. Lol

 

[Cherry64]

Why work when you don't have to

too true.

...I have nothing else I can actually say to that :s
you win again

 

[Mota]

This has changed my whole outlook on life. Thank you.

 

[ebhz.Ash.4rm]

This sounds an awful lot like David DeAngelo, he used wuss a lot in his emails.

 

[Youko]

I'm glad you've caught on to this, but it's actually been mentioned a couple of times in this thread that DD's theories are the foundation of my learning process in this field.

 

[ebhz.Ash.4rm]

I'm glad you've caught on to this, but it's actually been mentioned a couple of times in this thread that DD's theories are the foundation of my learning process in this field.

Oh cool, you read up on anyone else's material?

 

[MarKO X]

So I read the OP and the last two pages of stuff (prolly should read more, since those pages were 70% about bi-men preference lol).

But the OP is dead on.
Has this thread mentioned anything about how the media has something to do with why men are so wussy these days?

Me, personally, I was there, a wussyman, a nice guy. I look back how much of a wuss I was, and I laugh. Honestly, I'm still not completely gone of my wussy ways, but I am WAY better than I was even one year ago. Yup. Like, I'm still a "nice guy" per se, but I know when I need to say to myself "No More Mr. Nice Guy" and do what I have to do.... most of the time....

 

[thanortinzak]

I still don't get what's so bad about being a nice guy. Doesn't being a nice guy increase your chances of being viewed favorably after all?

 

[MarKO X]

I still don't get what's so bad about being a nice guy. Doesn't being a nice guy increase your chances of being viewed favorably after all?

Its ok to be a nice guy to an extent, but you have to be able to go after whatever/whoever you want without remorse. Like, take the typical nice guy and the typical jerk trying to go for a girl. Typical nice guy is trying to be nice, establishing an emotional connection without any attempt at making a physical connection or showing any signs of sexual interest, because he's being nice. Typical jerk is being a typical jerk, making sexy comments about the female, teasing her, and making the physical and sexual connection without really caring about an emotional connection.

Who's most likely to be friends with this girl? The nice guy.
Who's most likely to have sex with this girl? The typical jerk.

Yes, you will be "liked" by the girl if you are a nice guy, but you will only be friends. And nothing more. The girl might not "like" the jerk, but she will be so turned on by said jerk because of the way he was pressing those buttons and giving the girl a challenge.

Does this mean that you should be a jerk to women? lolno.
But what it does mean is that if you are trying to get with a girl, you can't be the complete nice guy that you are. You have to be able to give the girl a challenge, show some slightly deeper form of interest, and establish more than the emotional connection that you think will get her to fall in love with you on its own.

It sounds complicated, and it kinda is. But it kinda isn't.

 

[thanortinzak]

Its ok to be a nice guy to an extent, but you have to be able to go after whatever/whoever you want without remorse. Like, take the typical nice guy and the typical jerk trying to go for a girl. Typical nice guy is trying to be nice, establishing an emotional connection without any attempt at making a physical connection or showing any signs of sexual interest, because he's being nice. Typical jerk is being a typical jerk, making sexy comments about the female, teasing her, and making the physical and sexual connection without really caring about an emotional connection.

Who's most likely to be friends with this girl? The nice guy.
Who's most likely to have sex with this girl? The typical jerk.

Yes, you will be "liked" by the girl if you are a nice guy, but you will only be friends. And nothing more. The girl might not "like" the jerk, but she will be so turned on by said jerk because of the way he was pressing those buttons and giving the girl a challenge.

Does this mean that you should be a jerk to women? lolno.
But what it does mean is that if you are trying to get with a girl, you can't be the complete nice guy that you are. You have to be able to give the girl a challenge, show some slightly deeper form of interest, and establish more than the emotional connection that you think will get her to fall in love with you on its own.

It sounds complicated, and it kinda is. But it kinda isn't.

I see. So basically, you're saying don't be a jerk, but don't be a complete nice guy either, right?

 

[MarKO X]

I see. So basically, you're saying don't be a jerk, but don't be a complete nice guy either, right?

If you can find that balance, you'll be much better off. There are other little nuances such as reading body language and the like, that of which will eventually be learned with experience, but not being a complete nice guy is definitely a great boost.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I see. So basically, you're saying don't be a jerk, but don't be a complete nice guy either, right?

It's not really about being a jerk as it is:

1. Showing a decent amount of confidence.
2. Being secure in your masculinity.
3. Realizing that she's human just like you and that the world won't explode if you tease her or don't agree with everything she says.
4. Being in control of your libido instead of it being in control of you.

Let's think of one of the most famous wusses of all time, Romeo from Romeo and Juliet. First, he pined after Rosaline who didn't even know he was alive and then he when after Juliet, fell head over heels in love with in the course of a night, and then proceded for her to control the relationship until they both wound up dead. If you ask me, the story would have ended much differently if Romeo had paid attention to all the points I mentioned.

 

[Firus]

Let's think of one of the most famous wusses of all time, Romeo from Romeo and Juliet. First, he pined after Rosaline who didn't even know he was alive and then he when after Juliet, fell head over heels in love with in the course of a night, and then proceded for her to control the relationship until they both wound up dead. If you ask me, the story would have ended much differently if Romeo had paid attention to all the points I mentioned.

I think the problem is that Romeo was an idiot and took the relationship too seriously, like high school relationship angst today, but he took it as far as killing himself...I don't think it had anything to do with any sort of control or masculinity.

 

[Fatmanonice]

I think the problem is that Romeo was an idiot and took the relationship too seriously, like high school relationship angst today, but he took it as far as killing himself...I don't think it had anything to do with any sort of control or masculinity.

He pretty much convinced himself that he couldn't live without her and that's why he killed himself. With that mindset, her life >>> his life. Also, Juliet kind of did control the relationship and he kind of just went along with things. For example, feel free to correct me since it's been awhile since I last read it, didn't Romeo basically try to banish himself from England for killing Mercutio (Tibult was his cousin, right)? Basically, he really didn't try to stand up for himself or get any real help so he ran away and then came back later to find Juliet, concluded without even poking her with a stick that she was dead (or checking her pulse which always made me laugh, even now) and then killed himself.

I think taking a relationship too seriously is a matter of control in a sense that he pretty much let his self control go out the window like how Juliet kept saying (at least at first), "uh, dude, you know that us being together will pretty endanger both of our lives, right?" "I dun care! U R da awusom! LOLOLOLOL" Because overwelhming stupidity can be contagious, she pretty much went along with it as he kept going on. If you asked me, she was charmed by his stupidity more than anything else. Guh, I'm suddenly reminded why I still think the play is grossly overrated... Give me a MidSummer Night's Dream any day.

 

[Cherry64]

Its ok to be a nice guy to an extent, but you have to be able to go after whatever/whoever you want without remorse. Like, take the typical nice guy and the typical jerk trying to go for a girl. Typical nice guy is trying to be nice, establishing an emotional connection without any attempt at making a physical connection or showing any signs of sexual interest, because he's being nice. Typical jerk is being a typical jerk, making sexy comments about the female, teasing her, and making the physical and sexual connection without really caring about an emotional connection.

Who's most likely to be friends with this girl? The nice guy.
Who's most likely to have sex with this girl? The typical jerk.

Yes, you will be "liked" by the girl if you are a nice guy, but you will only be friends. And nothing more. The girl might not "like" the jerk, but she will be so turned on by said jerk because of the way he was pressing those buttons and giving the girl a challenge.

Does this mean that you should be a jerk to women? lolno.
But what it does mean is that if you are trying to get with a girl, you can't be the complete nice guy that you are. You have to be able to give the girl a challenge, show some slightly deeper form of interest, and establish more than the emotional connection that you think will get her to fall in love with you on its own.

It sounds complicated, and it kinda is. But it kinda isn't.

well, this should be quoted into the OP. this basically summed everything up and made it easier to read.

IMO anywayss

 

[Firus]

He pretty much convinced himself that he couldn't live without her and that's why he killed himself. With that mindset, her life >>> his life. Also, Juliet kind of did control the relationship and he kind of just went along with things. For example, feel free to correct me since it's been awhile since I last read it, didn't Romeo basically try to banish himself from England for killing Mercutio (Tibult was his cousin, right)? Basically, he really didn't try to stand up for himself or get any real help so he ran away and then came back later to find Juliet, concluded without even poking her with a stick that she was dead (or checking her pulse which always made me laugh, even now) and then killed himself.

He didn't try to, but he didn't really stand up for himself, yeah...he just stayed with her on their wedding night and then ran away to where he was banished to, and then Juliet came up with a plan to not marry Paris, but Romeo never got the message telling him a plan, and when he arrived, he just decided to kill himself 'cause she was in her family...tomb...place and looked dead. But no, he didn't check.

I think taking a relationship too seriously is a matter of control in a sense that he pretty much let his self control go out the window like how Juliet kept saying (at least at first), "uh, dude, you know that us being together will pretty endanger both of our lives, right?" "I dun care! U R da awusom! LOLOLOLOL" Because overwelhming stupidity can be contagious, she pretty much went along with it as he kept going on. If you asked me, she was charmed by his stupidity more than anything else. Guh, I'm suddenly reminded why I still think the play is grossly overrated... Give me a MidSummer Night's Dream any day.

Mm, I can kind of see your point...but I still think the moral of this play is "Don't be so ****ing stupid, killing yourself over a girl you've known all of five days is absolutely moronic and you actually deserve to be brought back to life and killed again for doing so."

I agree, the play is overrated. >.>

 

[Tom]

This blog is garbs.

YOU DONT KNOW ME YOUKO

YOU DONT KNOW ME

 

[Youko]

An honest mistake.

TOM IS AN EXCEPTION

THE LADIES SWOON WHEN HE MEOWS

 

[cman]

Let's think of one of the most famous wusses of all time, Romeo from Romeo and Juliet. First, he pined after Rosaline who didn't even know he was alive and then he when after Juliet, fell head over heels in love with in the course of a night, and then proceded for her to control the relationship until they both wound up dead. If you ask me, the story would have ended much differently if Romeo had paid attention to all the points I mentioned.

What are you talking about? Romeo was an anti-wuss
VV This is what he says when he first meets juliet VV

ROMEO

[To JULIET] If I profane with my unworthiest hand
This holy shrine, the gentle fine is this:
My lips, two blushing pilgrims, ready stand
To smooth that rough touch with a tender kiss.

JULIET

Good pilgrim, you do wrong your hand too much,
Which mannerly devotion shows in this;
For saints have hands that pilgrims' hands do touch,
And palm to palm is holy palmers' kiss.

 

[Falconv1.0]

Romeo had so many issues it's not even worth discussing. You know what, everyone in that time period was ********, end of discussion.

 

[REL38]

Romeo and Juliet was a made up story which was designated to be a tragedy. Romeo had to act a certain way to have the story end up all sad n junk.