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[Will]

Gor valentines day I want this
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I will pay you in hugs and one (1) sigular kiss on the cheek

I got my gf the bohug plush for V-Day

I wasn’t planning on it, but he was conveniently on sale for unrelated reasons.

 

[CannonStreak]

Aang.

That is just one character, plus, while it may be just me, I don't think he is so static, and even if he is, it is how a character is handled that also matters. Even if character development is not really involved in cases like this, I still don't think Aang is that static, and with that, I do not think he is as static as you think. I think he has some development. I mean, he struggles to be the Avatar and accept his role. That deals with character development, does it not?

 

[Noipoi]

Anyone want to hear me go on a rant about “character development”, its status as a buzz-phrase in media criticism, and the neutral effect it has on a story’s objective quality?

Depends on if it’ll start another pointless debate that’ll last 3 pages

 

[Will]

That is just one character, plus, while it may be just me, I don't think he is so static, and even if he is, it is how a character is handled that also matters. Even if character development is not really involved in cases like this, I still don't think Aang is that static, and with that, I do not think he is as static as you think. I think he has some development. I mean, he struggles to be the Avatar and accept his role. That deals with character development, does it not?

What the hell happened to saying this?

How 'bout no?!

 

[CannonStreak]

What the hell happened to saying this?

I thought she had not post the actual rant yet, did she not?

I was saying that about the rant, not anything else.

But I digress, perhaps I should stop now given how this may equally be a pointless thing to talk about, rant or not.

 

[Will]

I thought she had not post the actual rant yet, did she not?

I was saying that about the rant, not anything else.

But I digress, perhaps I should stop now given how this may equally be a pointless thing to talk about, rant or not.

I caught you opening up to it so I had to pull you out

 

[CannonStreak]

I caught you opening up to it so I had to pull you out

Yeah, sure. Thanks for the tip. While maybe I should have know, I still am not sure if I, myself, was really opening up to it by that much.

 

[Alphine Agnitio]

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hee hoo *******

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

I got my gf the bohug plush for V-Day

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I wasn’t planning on it, but he was conveniently on sale for unrelated reasons.

Thats mine now, thanks for the gift

 

[Will]

Thats mine now, thanks for the gift

You can pry it off her cold, dead hands. She sleeps with it at night now

 

[Cutie Gwen]

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hee hoo *******

Unrelated but seeing as the screenshot has keyboard stuff, I assume you're playing on PC. You probably already know this but there's a mod that restores a cut gay romance option that already had English voice lines recorded for it, might be for you idk

 

[TMNTSSB4]

Unrelated but seeing as the screenshot has keyboard stuff, I assume you're playing on PC. You probably already know this but there's a mod that restores a cut gay romance option that already had English voice lines recorded for it, might be for you idk

…does this gay romance involve Yu and Yosuke?

 

[Z25]

So, anyone watching the Super Bowl tonight?

The real ones are watching this:

 

[Wario Bros.]

I still feel that we'll get a new Star Fox game within the next two years.

 

[Professor Pumpkaboo]

…does this gay romance involve Yu and Yosuke?

You mean the best romance in the game? Probably, yeah

 

[Hydreigonfan01]

I still feel that we'll get a new Star Fox game within the next two years.

Bottom text

 

[Pink Yoshi]

I don't know about you guys, but something is not quite right here...

 

[CannonStreak]

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I don't know about you guys, but something is not quite right here...

I can kind of see that. Why would Ariel and friends advertise for seafood?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

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I don't know about you guys, but something is not quite right here...

The face on Flounder is not one of joy but the face of a man who sunk further into the abyss than he knew was possible, he smiles, for he cannot process his family being eaten by Ariel and her being this casual about it

 

[TheMightyP]

Does Star Fox even have an audience nowadays? Zero sold horribly and critical reception hasn't been the best. I can see a Star Fox 99 but really that's about it, feels like Star Fox is at the bottom of Nintendo priorities (and tbh, probably among the least popular nowadays).

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Does Star Fox even have an audience nowadays? Zero sold horribly and critical reception hasn't been the best. I can see a Star Fox 99 but really that's about it, feels like Star Fox is at the bottom of Nintendo priorities (and tbh, probably among the least popular nowadays).

Now to be fair, there's a glaring detail you failed to mention.

Star Fox Zero was a gimmicky Wii U game

 

[TheMightyP]

Now to be fair, there's a glaring detail you failed to mention.

Star Fox Zero was a gimmicky Wii U game

Fair but you fail to realizing being a poorly recieved and sold gimmick game is the kiss of death for Nintendo franchises.

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Fair but you fail to realizing being a poorly recieved and sold gimmick game is the kiss of death for Nintendo franchises.

True Zero specifically is so gimmicky that unlike Pikmin, 3D World, TMS, etc, it can't even find success on a better system. The series is cooked, it had 1 game every boomer loved and that's it yeah

 

[SnakeFighter64]

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Depends on if it’ll start another pointless debate that’ll last 3 pages

Nah. I’m done. Gonna go watch Star Trek.

 

[StormC]

Does Star Fox even have an audience nowadays? Zero sold horribly and critical reception hasn't been the best. I can see a Star Fox 99 but really that's about it, feels like Star Fox is at the bottom of Nintendo priorities (and tbh, probably among the least popular nowadays).

There’s always furries

 

[Noipoi]

Nah. I’m done. Gonna go watch Star Trek.

Crisis averted

 

[TheMightyP]

True Zero specifically is so gimmicky that unlike Pikmin, 3D World, TMS, etc, it can't even find success on a better system. The series is cooked, it had 1 game every boomer loved and that's it yeah

Tbf Zero never got ported. But tbh, I doubt it will.

There’s always furries

Wish granted, the Star Fox cast is now in Animal Crossing.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

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Crisis averted

Sometimes you just don't have the energy. I said my piece. Why keep going back and forth.

 

[Guynamednelson]

Wish granted, the Star Fox cast is now in Animal Crossing.

Yes, yes, daddy screamed real good before he died, hmm?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Does Star Fox even have an audience nowadays? Zero sold horribly and critical reception hasn't been the best. I can see a Star Fox 99 but really that's about it, feels like Star Fox is at the bottom of Nintendo priorities (and tbh, probably among the least popular nowadays).

I mean... people keep asking for a new Star Fox. Not every game needs to make trillions of dollars and get into every single persons home and sell to "casuals". Just... sell to the people who are asking you to sell to them.

 

[Schnee117]

Tbf Zero never got ported. But tbh, I doubt it will.

That's probably what she means by being too gimmicky.
That game was designed around the Gamepad, it just doesn't work without being heavily reworked at which point just make a new game.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

That's probably what she means by being too gimmicky.
That game was designed around the Gamepad, it just doesn't work without being heavily reworked at which point just make a new game.

They could do what Wonderful 101 did and just put the little gamepad screen in the corner.

But yeah, i'd rather they make a new game.

 

[Schnee117]

They could do what Wonderful 101 did and just put the little gamepad screen in the corner.

But yeah, i'd rather they make a new game.

Well not really, the whole thing is that you'd use the gamepad to aim as well.
W101 was just a thing to draw on that you'd rather use the right stick for and then you'd have certain sections that needed the Pad but those were few and far between as opposed to SF0 needing you to constantly use both screens at the same time

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Well not really, the whole thing is that you'd use the gamepad to aim as well.
W101 was just a thing to draw on that you'd rather use the right stick for and then you'd have certain sections that needed the Pad but those were few and far between as opposed to SF0 needing you to constantly use both screens at the same time

I've played Wonderful 101 to completion and I know the gamepad use was more involved than that. And even in the wii u version you could draw with the right analogue stick.

 

[TheMightyP]

I mean... people keep asking for a new Star Fox. Not every game needs to make trillions of dollars and get into every single persons home and sell to "casuals". Just... sell to the people who are asking you to sell to them.

I mean in a perfect world where things like operating at a profit and a loss are nonexistant, yeah fair. But the games can't even crack a million which is far from ideal for a multi billion corp. Chances are, they just don't think there's enough demand, and lets be real, the latest gens (Z and Alpha) are more into small indie games or grand action adventure RPGs, if they want to sell Star Fox to the new gen they gotta overhaul it because the sit in ship and shoot style isn't working.

 

[Noipoi]

I mean... people keep asking for a new Star Fox. Not every game needs to make trillions of dollars and get into every single persons home and sell to "casuals". Just... sell to the people who are asking you to sell to them.

That can be true up to a point. But the question isn't are there Star Fox fans, the question is are there enough Star Fox fans to justify the money we lost making this thing?

In the Wii U's case, the answer was no.

 

[Guynamednelson]

small indie games

This just reminds me: Star Fox 64 is a game where you can get from the beginning to the end in 2 hours, even on a casual playthrough. Wouldn't its gameplay style have potential to be made into a small indie game?

 

[SnakeFighter64]

That can be true up to a point. But the question isn't are there Star Fox fans, the question is are there enough Star Fox fans to justify the money we lost making this thing?

In the Wii U's case, the answer was no.

That's fair. Though a lot of people were, understandably, put off by the controls.

I mean in a perfect world where things like operating at a profit and a loss are nonexistant, yeah fair. But the games can't even crack a million which is far from ideal for a multi billion corp. Chances are, they just don't think there's enough demand, and lets be real, the latest gens (Z and Alpha) are more into small indie games or grand action adventure RPGs, if they want to sell Star Fox to the new gen they gotta overhaul it because the sit in ship and shoot style isn't working.

That would be a huge mistake. Then people who have actually been wanting a new Star Fox would be upset because you effectively didn't even make a Star Fox game. You just made a game with Star Fox characters.

If indie studios can sell to niche markets and not operate at a loss, then there's no reason Nintendo can't have a b-team who makes smaller budget projects in their more niche franchises that cater to those fanbases. It's not impossible

Honestly it feels like there are a lot of biases in this conversation. Statements that people are assuming need to be true that just... don't. They don't need to pander to an audience that doesn't want what the series is by "reinventing it". That's how you get a split and divided fanbase. Any money is good money. As long as there is profit and they're not making the project at a loss, they're fine. They still make games with that mindset now even. Look at Metroid Dread. Not every game needs to be the most successful thing on the planet when you own Mario AND Pokemon as well as heavy hitters like Animal Crossing, Splatoon, and Zelda. You can be free to spread things around a little bit.

Like. What do you gain by sitting here convincing yourself that a brand new Star Fox is impossible and that the series is dead and will never come back unless it turns itself into Fortnite or Dark Souls? Does that bring you happiness? Closure? Contentment? Can you not find those things in realizing that there are just as plenty of ways that it could come back that aren't wishful thinking or pointless idealism? Like... I just don't get it. Cause when I convince myself that the thing I want is never gonna happen, I'll tell you, it doesn't improve my state of being at all. Better to be either optimistic or at least neutral. Cause that's what the universe is. Neutral. Everything is just as likely to happen as anything else. Especially when there are billions of things happening behind closed doors at these companies shifting the outcome that we don't know about. So why convince yourself of a conclusion off of a data set that you know is incomplete?

 

[TheMightyP]

This just reminds me: Star Fox 64 is a game where you can get from the beginning to the end in 2 hours, even on a casual playthrough. Wouldn't its gameplay style have potential to be made into a small indie game?

Tbh yeah, it can definitely work as one.

 

[Alphine Agnitio]

Unrelated but seeing as the screenshot has keyboard stuff, I assume you're playing on PC. You probably already know this but there's a mod that restores a cut gay romance option that already had English voice lines recorded for it, might be for you idk

not really tbh, I'm playing on japanese audio