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[MooMew64]

You all need to see this immediately:

This is the best thing I've seen all year.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Doesn't really help that most of the super heavies in this game suck complete ass too, and encourage a playstyle of going in for kills and approaching since camping them out is optimal strategy for majority.

Dk, Ganon, and Incin are all bottom 5 characters because Ults engine severly ****s them over.

I mean, that's standard fighting game design.

Heavies are Smash's equivalent the the grappler archetype, who are supposed to be extremely powerful in close range with a ton of health but struggle against zoners. However they still have a chance to make a big comback against zoners since if they get in, they can kill them extremely quickly with a few decisive blows. The real problem is that because of the way disadvantage is designed in Smash, a lot of heavies struggle against a lot of the rushdown characters who they're supposed to beat. Ganon is a huge victim of this - he can do fine against Fox for example, but against rushdowns who are will to chase him off stage (such as Pikachu) he's more of a slow, bumbling glass canon then a mighty damage tank.

Heavies just need better disadvantage options. Bowser has a really bad disadvantage, but he also has a number of landing mix ups including a frame 6 command grab, a frame 6 OoS option and a somewhat serviceable recovery. Incineroar's Revenge is a good start for him but he's going to need some more landing mix ups then that.

 

[TMNTSSB4]

can’t believe I’m only just watching these Adventure Time specials...the damned ass fool I am

 

[TheMightyP]

I mean, that's standard fighting game design.

Heavies are Smash's equivalent the the grappler archetype, who are supposed to be extremely powerful in close range with a ton of health but struggle against zoners. However they still have a chance to make a big comback against zoners since if they get in, they can kill them extremely quickly with a few decisive blows. The real problem is that because of the way disadvantage is designed in Smash, a lot of heavies struggle against a lot of the rushdown characters who they're supposed to beat. Ganon is a huge victim of this - he can do fine against Fox for example, but against rushdowns who are will to chase him off stage (such as Pikachu) he's more of a slow, bumbling glass canon then a mighty damage tank.

Heavies just need better disadvantage options. Bowser has a really bad disadvantage, but he also has a number of landing mix ups including a frame 6 command grab, a frame 6 OoS option and a somewhat serviceable recovery. Incineroar's Revenge is a good start for him but he's going to need some more landing mix ups then that.

Yeah, most of the heavies suck because of godawful disadvantage, and that's not ok in a game where a decent neutral and an good advantage is king. But tbh, disadvantage isn't gonna fix everything, Incineroar got buffed a lot, he got good frame data and nair and revenge are good combo breakers, and yet because of his bottom 1 mobility and awful approach options he's still a bottom 5 character. Same with Ganon, minus the buffed parts. DK is just all disadvantage with no neutral. K. Rool and DDD are better in that they can land safer and can do something against campers since they have ways to deal with them, but they also got bad mobility, and are predictable too, especialy in D3's case.

Like, landing options and better disadvantage would help, but I think the mavor issue with most is awful mobility, predictable approach options, suseptabke to projectile camping, and terrible neutral.

 

[ZephyrZ]

Yeah, most of the heavies suck because of godawful disadvantage, and that's not ok in a game where a decent neutral and an good advantage is king. But tbh, disadvantage isn't gonna fix everything, Incineroar got buffed a lot, he got good frame data and nair and revenge are good combo breakers, and yet because of his bottom 1 mobility and awful approach options he's still a bottom 5 character. Same with Ganon, minus the buffed parts. DK is just all disadvantage with no neutral. K. Rool and DDD are better in that they can land safer and can do something against campers since they have ways to deal with them, but they also got bad mobility, and are predictable too, especialy in D3's case.

Like, landing options and better disadvantage would help, but I think the mavor issue with most is awful mobility, predictable approach options, suseptabke to projectile camping, and terrible neutral.

I guess I'm just trying to look at this from a game design perspective.

Heavies/grapplers are kind of meant to have risky approach options because they're meant to struggle against defensive characters. It's to balance out how powerful they are once they do get in. And I do think it's possible to design a good character like this - I honestly don't think Bowser's neutral is really much better then DK's, but Bowser doesn't crumble under pressure nearly as much for a multitude of reasons so he's able to preform well despite that. Although in all fairness Bowser (and DK actually) are actually pretty fast. Honestly though that's what I love about heavies - once you do successfully get in it feels so rewarding in part because their approach options are so risky.

But they aren't supposed to have poor disadvantage. The issue is that the flaws that are supposed to hold them back in neutral (large hurtboxes and poor mobility) also severely hamper their disadvantage in Ultimate. Heavies are meant to survive longer then most characters thanks to their weight but the game engine works against that by making them accrue damage much faster then most characters. And it doesn't help that for some baffling reason the devs want to give most heavies terrible recoveries. I guess poor Ganon's is a remnant of his moveset being borrowed from Captain Falcon who's meant to be a glass cannon, but that's no excuse for DK's and Incin's being so linear. They're meant to be the sturdiest, hardest to kill characters in the game and for the most part they're just...not.

 

[PeridotGX]

How come you have a limited amount of bullets in Persona (from an in-universe perspective).

Why do the shadows accept that this high schooler has an AK-47, but draw the line at more than 8 bullets.

 

[Will]

I feel like Ganon would get significantly better if you gave him a float like the princesses. at least it's canon

 

[Shroob]

Nintendo's releasing Blast Corps and Banjo Kazooie

POGGE----

On the WIIU

....you can't make this **** up

According to the @Nintendo's JPN release schedule, Banjo-Kazooie and Blast Corps are launching on the... Wii U Virtual Console? today in Japan. Links lead to 404s.

• Banjo-Kazooie: https://t.co/2RkttmDO6K
• Blast Corps: https://t.co/picENyxY8ehttps://t.co/RSkaDOeI3W https://t.co/OTUMz3EIZY pic.twitter.com/enFr5RcXYs

— Gematsu (@gematsu) December 30, 2020

 

[Noipoi]

POGGE----



....you can't make this **** up

Nintendo

You KNOW no one plays the Wii U anymore.

Put the bear and bird on the switch

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Nintendo

You KNOW no one plays the Wii U anymore.

Put the bear and bird on the switch

Those games will never come to the Switch.


Now buy a Wii U you little *****

 

[Noipoi]

Those games will never come to the Switch.

thems fightin words

 

[Cutie Gwen]

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thems fightin words

But I did le funny epic maymay of making a rhyme, you can't beat me up with a character who has no sauce

 

[osby]

Nintendo

You KNOW no one plays the Wii U anymore.

Put the bear and bird on the switch

If Banjo came to Switch, his inclusion in Smash would make him a shill pick.

Nintendo is just trying to protect him from becoming what his fans hate.

 

[Noipoi]

Anyway uhhhhhh don’t raise your kids in cults. It screws em up. I should know.

That’s my advice tonight.

G’night.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Okay. The Ruby and Sapphire remakes brought in Mega Evolutions, so what if the Diamond and Pearl remakes brought in Dynamaxing/Gigantimaxing? And if so, what Pokémon do you think would get new Gigantimax forms.

Counting down the days till Gigantimax Mewtwo

 

[Shroob]

Okay. The Ruby and Sapphire remakes brought in Mega Evolutions, so what if the Diamond and Pearl remakes brought in Dynamaxing/Gigantimaxing? And if so, what Pokémon do you think would get new Gigantimax forms.

Counting down the days till Gigantimax Mewtwo

Take popular Gen 4 Pokemon
Slap enbiggening onto them
Profit


Garchomp, Lucario, those ones are obvious

I'd say Driftblim but oh god that could end up being hilariously poor taste if it turns into a straight up zeppelin.

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Take popular Gen 4 Pokemon
Slap enbiggening onto them
Profit


Garchomp, Lucario, those ones are obvious

I'd say Driftblim but oh god that could end up being hilariously poor taste if it turns into a straight up zeppelin.

The starters will definitely get them too.

 

[Shroob]

The starters will definitely get them too.

Maybe, it's possible.

The Gen 6 starters didn't get Mega evolutions despite Gen 6's gimmick being mega evolution.

 

[osby]

The starters will definitely get them too.

Ngl, there's a lot you can do with a Gigantamax Torterra. Imagine his shell being a whole-ass island ecosystem, that would be rad.

 

[Arcanir]

Okay. The Ruby and Sapphire remakes brought in Mega Evolutions, so what if the Diamond and Pearl remakes brought in Dynamaxing/Gigantimaxing? And if so, what Pokémon do you think would get new Gigantimax forms.

Counting down the days till Gigantimax Mewtwo

Dialga, Palkia, and Giratina having some variant would be a given. We saw that with Gen 3's cover legendaries, so 4's would probably get the same treatment. The Starters as well would probably be thrown in as Gen 3's also got Megas in their remakes.

As Shroob mentioned, Garchomp and Lucario are also very likely due to their high popularity in the generation. Luxray is also popular enough to warrant it, though it's a bit of a coin flip since TCPi is kind of finnicky with it.

Darkrai and Arceus are also possible if they're willing to do Event Pokemon, but considering only Diancie got a Mega I feel it'd be reserved for whatever new one they release during the year.

In terms of other Generations, maybe some older fan favorites that have been ignored with the other gimmicks like Dragonite or Arcanine. Also, Tyranitar, Volcarona and Lord Hydreigon for Kaiju pandering, you know you want to GF!

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Maybe, it's possible.

The Gen 6 starters didn't get Mega evolutions despite Gen 6's gimmick being mega evolution.

The Gen 3 ones did though.

Come to think of it, why didn’t the Gen 6 starters get Megas? That feels really weird.

 

[Shroob]

One thing's for sure though.


If it works like XY/ORAS or SM/USUM


You won't be able to fight people using the new forms in your old game.

 

[Noipoi]

One thing's for sure though.


If it works like XY/ORAS or SM/USUM


You won't be able to fight people using the new forms in your old game.

You’re not thinking big enough, Shroob.

You’ll only be able to fight people in your old game using Pokémon available in both D/P 2.0 and Sw/Sh.

So like, 45 Pokémon.

 

[Shroob]

You’re not thinking big enough, Shroob.

You’ll only be able to fight people in your old game using Pokémon available in both D/P 2.0 and Sw/Sh.

So like, 45 Pokémon.

Real talk tho, man I hate how they didn't patch SM to include the new 'Mons lol.

Like c'mon it's what, 5 new Pokemon? Really? Gotta buy an entire game for that?

 

[Cutie Gwen]

Real talk tho, man I hate how they didn't patch SM to include the new 'Mons lol.

Like c'mon it's what, 5 new Pokemon? Really? Gotta buy an entire game for that?

How dare you criticize the most successful multimedia franchise on the planet, you monster! Patching in a whole 5 mons means half the dev team won't be able to afford dinner for 4 years!

 

[Aurane]

For every Pokemon they patch in, the child of every worker in the Pokemon mines gets 10 lashes from the whip.

 

[Metal Shop X]

Don't mind me, just tagging Hat N' Clogs , 'cuz I found that in TS!Underswap, Asriel is still alive - due to switching his role with Monster Kid - and he will apparear as a adult in the full game. (hence why Asgore look older in the demo, monster boss ages when they have childrens that are still alive)

Riverperson & Gaster will also switch role, but it's nothin' compared to Azzy being alive. ; )

 

[Lamperouge]

Don't lie, most us have done this.

No one:

Me in 2nd grade: pic.twitter.com/FSu9ijuSGK

— Zelda Gif World (@GifZelda) December 29, 2020

 

[osby]

Don't lie, most us have done this.

No one:

Me in 2nd grade: pic.twitter.com/FSu9ijuSGK

— Zelda Gif World (@GifZelda) December 29, 2020

Can't relate, I was too busy fighting with my brother over the green marker.

 

[Shroob]

Don't lie, most us have done this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

Get like 5-6 connected

"I've done it!"

Swings it

They all go flying everywhere

"Crap."

 

[Aurane]

Get like 5-6 connected

"I've done it!"

Swings it

They all go flying everywhere

"Crap."

"Blade Scatter!"

one of the markers proceeds to get lodged into the quiet white kid's eye

 

[Deleted member]

i love how the one and only civil case in Ace Attorney(one of the regular cases in Spirit of Justice iirc) is also the only time both Apollo and Wright are on different sides of the courtroom. Then it just turns into a "surprise murder" halfway through but I understand why(Civil cases just simply aren't that interesting/fun to watch/play)

 

[Hat N' Clogs]

Don't lie, most us have done this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

OH, this was totally me. Nearly every day. It was epic.

 

[Pokelego999]

Personally if Gen 4 Remakes did come I'd like to see Mega Evolution back, Gen 4 was quite lacking on them, and lore wise, Dynamax was a Galar only thing.

 

[Deleted member]

Unless the next game is some realllly good ****, i'm not gonna buy it. I'm still not buying Sword and Shield because they look so poorly made(although I will give props to the team for not making a 3rd version and just making DLC instead)

although if it's entirely open world I may consider it

 

[PeridotGX]

Okay. The Ruby and Sapphire remakes brought in Mega Evolutions, so what if the Diamond and Pearl remakes brought in Dynamaxing/Gigantimaxing? And if so, what Pokémon do you think would get new Gigantimax forms.

Counting down the days till Gigantimax Mewtwo

gamefreak, give Heatran something. please.

 

[Dutch Raikuna]

I just had a dream where a cat kept transforming into a dog and back while I was on a spaceship.

I don't know why my dreams are getting more insane but I'm loving it.

 

[Deleted member]

Don't lie, most us have done this.

There was a problem fetching the tweet

I can't be the only person that took this one step further and build swords and **** out of LEGO, right?

 

[Pokelego999]

gamefreak, give Heatran something. please.

Heatran's already good, it doesn't need anything.

Regigigas on the other hand....

 

[SnakeFighter64]

Did all the content from Emerald make its way into OmegaRuby and AlphaSapphire? Is all the stuff introduced in Platinum gonna make it in to EternalDiamond and BoundlessPearl? How long will we have to wait for TruthfullBlack and IdillicWhite?