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Woow, didn't expect that.Toby Fox shared some cool concept art of Asriel and Chara together
No, you're ShinyLegendaryAm I boring?
Thank you. Now I know who I truly am.No, you're ShinyLegendary
The Gaster stuff is interesting; I remember when Deltarune was about to release on Halloween 2018, Toby Fox or the Undertale Twitter or whatever started teasing it with messages in all-caps (before we knew what it actually was iirc), just like Gaster’s all-capitals wingdings. They may have also referenced “dark, darker yet darker” but I’m not sure.Very, very interesting...
What do you two think?
Narrator! Chara is best Chara.The Gaster stuff is interesting; I remember when Deltarune was about to release on Halloween 2018, Toby Fox or the Undertale Twitter or whatever started teasing it with messages in all-caps (before we knew what it actually was iirc), just like Gaster’s all-capitals wingdings. They may have also referenced “dark, darker yet darker” but I’m not sure.
As for the Chara and Asriel art, I really like it and wish we could’ve seen more of them together, but what we got ingame and what is implied through dialogue is still very good.
It also makes me happy since this could potentially confirm Chara isn’t some psychopathic, evil mastermind some people make them out to be; ingame stuff seems to imply they aren’t anyway, imo. Yeah, they aren’t the greatest person, that doesn’t mean they’re out for blood/dust ._. They’re only the way they are in the Genocide ending because of what you do, since they (and I guess Frisk) are tied to you in someway (assuming so, since you name them and control Frisk); they themself say it was you, too.
of course if people want to portray Evil Chara or whatever they want, that’s ok, and some silly artwork of Evil Chara is kinda cool/funny, it just doesn’t seem to make sense for them to be the only actually evil character in the game’s canon imo especially considering other stuff in the game related to them and also the narration.
I personally believe that theory, since I don’t see why Genocide would be the only route they narrate, which they start doing in the Ruins even. There’s also white text that appears to be Chara’s reaction or thoughts of something, and not just red text; some Pacifist text also sounds like it’s coming from an actual second person, and of course there’s the sequences where Frisk seems to somehow receive a memory of Chara’s.Narrator! Chara is best Chara.
Just spittin' facts here.
Yeah, that, and it just make Chara a much more interesting character than just "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVVIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIILLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL...................." for the sake of it.I personally believe that theory, since I don’t see why Genocide would be the only route they narrate, which they start doing in the Ruins even. There’s also white text that appears to be Chara’s reaction or thoughts of something, and not just red text; some Pacifist text also sounds like it’s coming from an actual second person, and of course there’s the sequences where Frisk seems to somehow receive a memory of Chara’s.
so basically, I agree
Sigh, it's that time of the day again.
I feel very... Isolated. Like, yes, we're in a pandemic. But I feel isolated even in here. Like, I feel like I am too different for all of you, and I'm worried I don't conform here. As a result, I feel like I make people in here uncomfortable, and I feel like some even still have a grudge after what I have done. I feel like people like to dunk on me sometimes too. Not saying all of you are the wrong ones, far from it. But what do I do to be a better person? I am now in therapy again. And I'm aware that many don't care, which is fine. The people that do care... I am questioning things. It's not just here it is a problem, it is everywhere online. Like I remember being called a troll, or some evil manipulative supervillain that is trying to cause drama whenever I step. I admit I like attention, but I'm not a horrible person... Am I?
Do people really believe that? We keep getting hires from these massive games like COD, mass effect( I think)? Etc. they are picking a lot of talent up for this so it’s clearly still being worked on:I think there is hope for Metroid Prime 4. Everyone memed about how SMTV was dead, but then boom, a random direct came, and now SMTV is guaranteed to have a release date.
"SMT dead" was always a stupid meme because ATLUS confirmed that the development was going smoothly just at the start of this year. Not to mention a few years of a wait isn't that unusual when a relatively small company is making the jump from 3DS games to HD.I think there is hope for Metroid Prime 4. Everyone memed about how SMTV was dead, but then boom, a random direct came, and now SMTV is guaranteed to have a release date.
If you don't mind me saying, while I do like you Shiny, the fact you're basically married to politics and feel the need necessary to insert them wherever you can is, frankly, exhausting at times. We just got over a very long, tiresome election and are still stuck with the primo cheeto for a couple more weeks and hearing him babble on incessantly about fraud, so forgive someone like me, who basically comes here to unwind and relax with my friends, for groaning pretty hard when you start up on politics. There are people who just don't want to discuss politics all the time, especially in a dedicated ****post thread, you know? Doubly so on a website dedicated to a children's party game.
This is a bit of a double edged sword for you as well, since while you are VERY smart politically, I cannot deny that, the issue is you tend to be blind to the meaning behind certain topics and jump headfirst into things without actually taking a step back and thinking. Remember just last week where you were completely off base when I was talking to Snake and kinda compared me to someone who'd be okay with genocide when the topic was about comic books and video games?
Taking a step back and reading more than a surface analysis of a situation would go a long, long way, and frankly, we really don't need constant reminders about who's good and who's bad in politics, that's why the political discussion thread exists.
I even say,"Three heroes appeared to banish the angel's heaven."
Interesting.
You know, I told everyone that SMTV was not dead."SMT dead" was always a stupid meme because ATLUS confirmed that the development was going smoothly just at the start of this year. Not to mention a few years of a wait isn't that unusual when a relatively small company is making the jump from 3DS games to HD.
From what I understand, Prime 4's situation is a little more complicated but it's definitely not dead.
Okay, look, let me explain. I only get involved politically when a political debate is occuring in the thread. Rarely, it is me that starts the debates. Yeah, I know I am married to politics. I have a life besides it too of course, and I have hobbies. But the issue is that it's kind of hard to ignore politics, when they affect your everyday life. I am not saying you have to notice politics all the time, but for a person like me, after what I have seen with the world, I feel like it's impossible to just turn back and go to sleep.
This second part frustrates me. And yeah, I admit I can be a bit dumb and jump headfirst into things. But honestly, you're just doing the whole "SHINY THINK BEFORE YOU SPEAK!" argument. I literally do that. I feel like its expected for me to be perfect and to never make mistakes, and it's so frustrating. No, of course I am going to make silly mistakes over and over. I actually do think a lot about these posts. I put in so much effort to getting my point across at times too. I care. I'm tired of just constantly being drilled "SHINY THINK BEFORE YOU POST!" by everyone. I GET IT. I heard this for years by many different people online. I have it drilled to the inner core of my brain. I do think. Okay? Sorry if I sound a bit aggressive, but there is a lot more to me than just, "Think and you will prosper!"
For UT, I think the angel can refer to a pacifist Frisk, a genocide one or Asriel, but there isn't a definitive answer.Wait, if “angel” in Undertale was referring to either Frisk or Asriel, could it be the same or similar in Deltarune?
I think its Asriel. Kris is one of the three heroes, and the quote implied that they were banishing the Angel's Heaven.Wait, if “angel” in Undertale was referring to either Frisk or Asriel (maaaaybe Chara but that’s probably a stretch), could it be the same or similar in Deltarune?
Maybe Kris or Asriel...?
idk I guess it’s too early to speculate much.
For your first point, I'm gonna say you're too invested. Your avatar's political, your user data's political, your signature is political, like, I think it's great for you to stand up for what you believe in, ya know, but at the same time, no, it's really, really not hard to ignore politics. Like, maybe it's just because I've grown up, and still live, in a very, very small town, but aside from the mask mandates, I can pretty much say that politics have rarely ever effected me(Outside of like, tax stuff or new roads being made/schools being opened). I can say that propaganda is spread like crazy here, no doubt, you see it on billboards, on tv, on bumper stickers, but aside from say, higher/lower taxes or some things being more/less expensive, I can kind of say, no, you actually can, and frankly put, everything seems a million times worse than it actually is if you spend all your time online and looking for it. Despite my town being DEEP red, there was... honestly nothing when Trump lost. That's not to say that there aren't any riots at all, I remember very clearly there was a huge BLM riot in Seattle back during the George Floyd stuff, but the country didn't go to civil war like soo many people were doomsaying, and honestly, aside from the garbage bins being full of Trump signs, not a lot happened.
And I mean, I can't say much for the 2nd point. Like I said before, context is key, but I think "Silly mistake" is a bit scapegoating the issue when you kinda, ya know.... compared me to someone who'd be okay with genocide...? Over a discussion about comic books and video games? Just throwing out that that's not really a 'silly mistake' anymore.
Good night, Aurane. I hope you didn't sleep gast your bedtime.Good night everybody.
I'm an adult. I don't have a bed time.Good night, Aurane. I hope you didn't sleep gast your bedtime.
Did that joke just get gast through your head? Also, as a seventeen year old, I do not have a bed time either.I'm an adult. I don't have a bed time.
SmashBoards isn't the only life I have. I talk to more people than just all of you. No seriously, my school profile for example, is completely nonpolitical. I have a lot of hobbies, like playing games, learning about history and astronomy, writing ideas, and more. I plan to even read and study new languages. As for me, I feel like politics affects my everyday life. Like in one signing of a bill, the government could easily roll back LGBTQ+ rights. The system is crumbling before our eyes. It's like a sinking ship. I mean for crying out loud, everything isn't fine. We're still in a pandemic, and the issues that plague us for CENTURIES are present, and are getting worse. Not saying you can never relax. Relaxation is important, and it is good if you do it a lot. But just telling me to ignore politics and to go to sleep feels wrong. I admit I may be a bit enthusiastic about politics. Yes, I have a Marx avatar. But it is kind of like personal opinion. Like, you would tolerate it if some weeb had an avatar, signature, ID, and more off an anime they loved, right? Why not me? If you hate politics, that's completely fine. If you can't stand it, then you can just block me. Just because a lot didn't happened where you live, does not make you immune to other issues, too. Be weary of life. And I'm not the only user who likes politics a lot. There are many users who like politics. In fact, I can name a few people in here that are quite political themselves. Like I said, it's just personal opinion.
The second point, yes, it was a dumb mistake. I apologize for that. And honestly, it didn't help that there were TWO discussions going on at once. Snake was discussing video games, and some other people were discussing racism. I admit I poorly misread that. Yes, I need to read better. But I am improving ,and I am trying. It is not like I am just tuning off all of your arguments and going to sleep. No. I am trying to set my path towards improvement, and I have been doing that for years. I'm not the same ShinyLegendary that deleted her account over a year ago. I learned a lot of harsh lessons when I was gone from SmashBoards. I am not perfect though, and yes, I have much to learn. But I feel like some paint me as some monstrous villain. Like I remember one user claimed I was a troll, and some other claimed I was a manipulative puppet master ruining SmashBoards. It frustrates me.
I saw it, and it was just as funny as the first time.Did that joke just get gast through your head? Also, as a seventeen year old, I do not have a bed time either.
What do you think?
I mean, I gotta say, and this'll be the only thing I really have else to add to the first part, but do you think that the best place to discuss these kinda topics, is on a thread dedicated to ****posting about a kid's party game? Like, if this were Reddit, Twitter, or other social media, I'd get it, but we 'do' have a Politic thread, and if you want to reach a wider audience, which I'm sure you do, I mean, we have like, 20 people who are regulars here, I think there comes a time where you'd hit a road block in reaching new eyes lol. Maybe I'm just off base, but I kinda think a board where people just kinda... goof off 24/7 is an odd place to get all deeply political, you know? Not saying it's unwelcome, but I feel like there's a time and place for everything, especially when there's a dedicated thread for the topic open at all times.
Shroob... It is not like I shove politics down everyone's throat. It is not like I am saying, "STAN KARL MARX!!!" or "THE STATE IS COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY!" every day. I only make political posts when everyone already has a political discussion. It's just my avatar, signature, and ID that is politica. Like I said, there are users in here that are political too. And SmashBoards isn't the only place I go to, far from it. Also, apparently having my avatar as Karl Marx is "deeply political". It's just a joke too. I'm going to change it when Christmas ends. In fact, this is probably the only political avatar I have had in here ever. And this is a social thread, Shroob. Its not like we have to discuss Smash 24/7. We discuss other things. There are users in here that bring up frustrations, for example. Even you joke about simping for some female characters. Not saying that is wrong, but let me do my own thing too. Its not harming anyone. And I feel like as long as I do not start a political debate, it is fine. Like I said for the tenth time, I only post politically when everyone gets in a political debate, or when it is extremely serious. Yeah, I admit I like politics a lot, but it's not like I'm constantly discussing political theory every single day in here.Like, look at someone like Bakugan(No offense at all to him), I don't think a whole lot of people really care about the Vanguard card game, but he still posts it all the time, and he really... doesn't seem to mind how bad he sticks out?
No, it's not just that. It is worse. I will say all of you are very kind. Like now I'm no longer as much of a crybaby, and if you want to block me, feel free to do so. But man, the harassment I have received from past users was immense. Like an old social regular who no longer posts here literally threatened to strangle me. I admit I did very dumb stuff in the past, but I don't think it justifies threats. In fact, there were users that yelled at me for pages, and they did make these claims that I was a troll and a manipulative puppet way before the Russian stuff. It was brutal. In fact, at one point, HALF of the thread blocked me. This was old times. Most of the old users are no longer active. Also, do I really fit in? Why is it always me that gets attacked for making a wrong claim about a video game. Like when I made that post about Mario not having story, someone said that I was being "too extreme". When I made a fun little prank, a user that wasn't the victim of the prank got pretty irritated at me. But when all of you prank, it's a funny moment. Like I feel like its always me that makes the "bad" mistakes. I admit I am not perfect, far from it. In fact, I would say that all of you have been really kind, and I deserve to apologize for my past-self. But I still feel a bit isolated. Could just be me overreacting, but that's what I do best, sadly.I don't think anyone thinks of you as a troll or 'manipulative puppet master'. I think people were a bit weirded out when you had your big Russian stint back in....2019?, especially right when that was the height of the whole Russian Facebook scandal(iirc), but that was then, this is now. I think, like I said soo often back then, that you worry too much about trying to fit in that your own worry makes you feel uncomfortable.
Aww Shroob, I do agree. We are a pretty close community. But back then, people HATED my guts, so, it is difficult for my mind to adapt after the past social threads and the drama that occured here. But yeah, I think there has been a LOT less drama. We have gotten along extremely well. I could just be childish, I do not know.I 100% get what you mean about that feeling of 'not fitting in', my Granblue guild is full of people who I don't click with at all so I feel like an oddball and the 'different' guy of the group, but at the same time, I either just kinda, ignore them or just post silly joke posts. I guess this is just a 'me' thing, but even if I feel like I stick out, I doubt other people really care that I do. I know for a fact that, even if you think you stick out, I don't mind, and I'm pretty sure most people here don't mind your presence one bit. We're a tight knit community, we're all friends with one another.
I am sure you are done with this, so I will make my last response to this debate.
Shroob... It is not like I shove politics down everyone's throat. It is not like I am saying, "STAN KARL MARX!!!" or "THE STATE IS COUNTER-REVOLUTIONARY!" every day. I only make political posts when everyone already has a political discussion. It's just my avatar, signature, and ID that is politica. Like I said, there are users in here that are political too. And SmashBoards isn't the only place I go to, far from it. Also, apparently having my avatar as Karl Marx is "deeply political". It's just a joke too. I'm going to change it when Christmas ends. In fact, this is probably the only political avatar I have had in here ever. And this is a social thread, Shroob. Its not like we have to discuss Smash 24/7. We discuss other things. There are users in here that bring up frustrations, for example. Even you joke about simping for some female characters. Not saying that is wrong, but let me do my own thing too. Its not harming anyone. And I feel like as long as I do not start a political debate, it is fine. Like I said for the tenth time, I only post politically when everyone gets in a political debate, or when it is extremely serious. Yeah, I admit I like politics a lot, but it's not like I'm constantly discussing political theory every single day in here.
No, it's not just that. It is worse. I will say all of you are very kind. Like now I'm no longer as much of a crybaby, and if you want to block me, feel free to do so. But man, the harassment I have received from past users was immense. Like an old social regular who no longer posts here literally threatened to strangle me. I admit I did very dumb stuff in the past, but I don't think it justifies threats. In fact, there were users that yelled at me for pages, and they did make these claims that I was a troll and a manipulative puppet way before the Russian stuff. It was brutal. In fact, at one point, HALF of the thread blocked me. This was old times. Most of the old users are no longer active. Also, do I really fit in? Why is it always me that gets attacked for making a wrong claim about a video game. Like when I made that post about Mario not having story, someone said that I was being "too extreme". When I made a fun little prank, a user that wasn't the victim of the prank got pretty irritated at me. But when all of you prank, it's a funny moment. Like I feel like its always me that makes the "bad" mistakes. I admit I am not perfect, far from it. In fact, I would say that all of you have been really kind, and I deserve to apologize for my past-self. But I still feel a bit isolated. Could just be me overreacting, but that's what I do best, sadly.
Aww Shroob, I do agree. We are a pretty close community. But back then, people HATED my guts, so, it is difficult for my mind to adapt after the past social threads and the drama that occured here. But yeah, I think there has been a LOT less drama. We have gotten along pretty well. I could just be childish, I do not know.
Thank you for responding to these posts, Shroob. It really shows that you do care deeply.
Okay, I know my last post should have been my last response, but...who's never held a job for longer than a week with half his face mashed in due to an accident, you think I hope people think I'm perfect?
It's fine lol. I'm fine.Okay, I know my last post should have been my last response, but...
I'm really sorry to hear that.
Having half of your face mashed in sounds pretty scary.It's fine lol. I'm fine.
It's mainly just my jaw and cheekbone. I've had work done to 'fix' it, though stuff sometimes still clicks or gets a bit stuck.Having half of your face mashed in sounds pretty scary.