I don't see how all items on is any more or less fair than all stages on.
Both shift the game away from skill and towards luck no matter how you slice it.
As far as the "smoke ball banana peel mr saturn only" argument goes, what would be the point? How would having these 3 items on be MORE suitable to tournament play then all off?
first off, I agree, all items or all stages both really add a lot of luck, although some items are just OBNOXIOUS at this.
as far as the 3 item argument? what is the point? more strategies, to change things up, keep pros on their toes at all times. Variety is the spice of life
honestly, you said it yourself, the great thing is that it doesn't drastically effect the game towards luck.
I think dismissing them for no reason is backwards, we should only dismiss stuff if it is game breaking, I don't think those are, which is why I think we should hold "3 item matches" much like we do "team matches"
Like in all of the other smash bros games, items gives an undeserving advantage to a character who happens to be near the item at any givin time.
Besides, items are boring in my opinion. -_-
items spawn randomly, so as long as the item is not game breaking it doesn't favour any one player, it has no presupposed bias and in the sum of all your games you have an equal chance at an item as anyone.
Don't tell my you are going to win or lose over a mr. saturn any more than you would a slip of a finger. Even without items players don't always play the same, every match is unique, that is what make them interesting in the first place. But what is also true is there is always going to be a certain skill level, and the top pros will always be the top pros, they may not win every game, but they will win most, and a banana peel, smoke bomb, or mr saturn isn't going to change that.
as far as you just thinking they are boring, you are basically saying "I don't think we should have any because I don't like them"
I mean c'mon man, if you are bored by them then just ignore them, but don't weigh in like somehow you finding them boring is a reason not to hold matches like that.
Overall I must say I'm rather dismayed at overall responses in this thread
most of the item people are all for total chaos, which isn't competitive at all, while all those opposed to my idea seem to be so just out of pure contempt of the idea, you just don't even want to try it.
there has been such a fracture in the community that it's more important to disagree with the opposition than to actually sit down and think about it. and I not just saying this to the guys that don't want any item matches, there is an equal amount of people advocating all items for no more reason than "the hell of it"
I am open to no items myself, I love those matches, as they are one way to compete.
I think this is another way to compete, but if you guys show me a reason why those 3 items are so god awefully game breaking, then of course I'd abandon the thought immediately.