Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

[OblivionWolf]

So you're saying that while Brawl Ridley he flaps his wings 180 degrees, he appears to flap em 90 degrees now?

Yes thats what im saying. You can watch it a few times really slow if you like here.

http://gfycat.com/ComfortableIncompatibleAzurewingedmagpie#?speed=2.2958874039497803e-41

His wings at all times have a bend to them. Like there partly folded at all times when flying. Thats pretty crazy I didn't notice this before. That will for sure take up less space.

Its all coming together imo.

 

[SmashBro99]

This is still a thing after he was deconfirmed?

This is not a troll post, I respect you all for supporting a character you love and really want in even when his chances are so very low. I mean the reasons Ridley wasn't playable in Melee or Brawl are the same reasons he won't be included as playable in these games. Sakurai won't add a character because he has tons of support, just look at Geno.

Either way. I applaud you all for supporting Ridley at this point in time.

 

[Cpt.]

This is still a thing after he was deconfirmed?

This is not a troll post, I respect you all for supporting a character you love and really want in even when his chances are so very low. I mean the reasons Ridley wasn't playable in Melee or Brawl are the same reasons he won't be included as playable in these games. Sakurai won't add a character because he has tons of support, just look at Geno.

Either way. I applaud you all for supporting Ridley at this point in time.

Look at today's miiverse. Then look at the direct. Then look at your post. He is not disconfirmed.

 

[SmashBro99]

I don't Miiverse, what did I miss?

I looked at the direct.

 

[OblivionWolf]

I don't Miiverse, what did I miss?

I looked at the direct.

http://smashbros-miiverse.com

Hover over the Pic of the Day for the caption.

 

[Lolo Lolo]

WOW ...
I don't come here for 2 days and Masahiro deconfirmed another character ....

()

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Ok now I got a bowser One all set.

Location of it.
(picture by @ majora_787 )

So, with this now without a further ado.

Blue, & Green, = shadow positions.

Red, & Yellow, = Approximate measurement of the shadow over here.

Hehehe look at that "Bowsers shadow is almost as big as Ridleys."

And going back to Rosalina's shadow.

Like I Said Rosalina, & Bowser Are Almost the same Height

 

[The King of Skulls]

I don't Miiverse, what did I miss?

I looked at the direct.

In a nut shell, Sakurai did not explicably say Ridley was/wasn't a playable character, unlike almost everyone else deconfirmed.

Because of this, we cannot get a definitive answer. Sure, it was heavily implied he's a boss, but there's a chance. I for one remain cautiously optimistic, but I do see cause for doubt in his case. His exclusion isn't a deal breaker for me, so it won't kill me to remain hopeful.

 

[Dalek_Kolt]

I made another Gfycat, this one excluding the Yellow Devil portion and including the fadeout.
http://gfycat.com/SentimentalBronzeIndianrhinoceros

 

[egaddmario]

I made another Gfycat, this one excluding the Yellow Devil portion and including the fadeout.
http://gfycat.com/SentimentalBronzeIndianrhinoceros

That fade-out is super fishy. Like, woah. Is he jumping?

 

[majora_787]

Ok now I got a bowser One all set.

Location of it.
(picture by majora_787)

So, with this now without a further ado.

Blue, & Green, = shadow positions.

Red, & Yellow, = Approximate measurement of the shadow over here.

Hehehe look at that "Bowsers shadow is almost as big as Ridleys."

And going back to Rosalina's shadow.

Like I Said Rosalina, & Bowser Are Almost the same Height

I feel like that yellow dot is way off from his shadow, but yeah. This Ridley is not very large compared to Bowser or Rosalina. He's in the same general area just going off his shadow minus wings.

 

[Snagrio]

That fade-out is super fishy. Like, woah. Is he jumping?

It looks like he does a midair jump after hovering from an initial jump where he first appears. That's weird... So Ridley can still do a midair jump even after hovering? Pretty sure Peach couldn't do that.

 

[Dark Phazon]

What i seriously dont understand is why are his wings so massive?

Each wing is bigger/longer than his whole body.

Just doesnt make any sense.......really doesnt....

Its like putting charizards wings on charmeleon.

@ Snagrio i believe she could if you hover in your first jump.

 

[egaddmario]

Ridley confirmed for better aerial presence than Meta Knight.

 

[Snagrio]

What i seriously dont understand is why are his wings so massive?

Each wing is bigger/longer than his whole body.

Just doesnt make any sense.......really doesnt....

Its like putting charizards wings on charmeleon.

@ Snagrio i believe she could if you hover in your first jump.

Like I've said some time before, maybe they expand when he's airborne but shrink to a smaller size after landing. We never saw Ridley grounded so it's possible.

As for Peach, I'm pretty sure she can't double jump after a hover if she goes into it after the first leap. Can someone test that though? I can't remember for sure.

 

[Dark Phazon]

Like I've said some time before, maybe they expand when he's airborne but shrink to a smaller size after landing. We never saw Ridley grounded so it's possible.

As for Peach, I'm pretty sure she can't double jump after a hover if she goes into it after the first leap. Can someone test that though? I can't remember for sure.

Why are his wings spazing out so bad and his body is completely still like a statute when hovering
(just his wings spazz moving)

Didnt someone brings designing the wings seprately from the body to have a fixed flapping animation for flying bosses easier/quicker to develop or something along them lines......

I really dont understand all of this at all.......if the clone is a boss and original Ridley playable that would be a reason to hold of his boss reveal.

Im lost....i really am.....im pretty confident Mewtwo will be revealed at E3 anyway i dont think we will get K.Rool either just sorta feel like

''Lets chuck em Mewtwo that will shut em up and Be GREATFULL hes back!!''

(-_-)......when really hes not a newcomer and he was planned for every smash game.

GameFreak you can tell they are devils in a way.

 

[Hentai_Kittie]

Peach can double jump after hovering. She can also hover after double jumping. It's easy to forget because her second jump is not high at all...

 

[OblivionWolf]

It looks like he does a midair jump after hovering from an initial jump where he first appears. That's weird... So Ridley can still do a midair jump even after hovering? Pretty sure Peach couldn't do that.

I personally think he goes off screen lands on one of the platforms and jumps off it. Odd Sakurai didn't cut that little bit off.

 

[ChunkyBeef]

It looks like he does a midair jump after hovering from an initial jump where he first appears. That's weird... So Ridley can still do a midair jump even after hovering? Pretty sure Peach couldn't do that.

Well, Peach doesn't have wings, soooo... X3

 

[AustarusIV]

OK, I wasn't convinced before that Pikachu was caught in Ridley's talons, but now that I've watched the clip again I can see it. So what exactly does this mean then? That could very well be Hazard!Ridley's gimmick on the stage, that he captures playable characters and throws them off the stage.

It's still kind of odd to see just how small Ridley is in this game compared to Brawl, or even Other M.

 

[Snagrio]

I stand corrected then. Still weird though.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

Ok now I got a bowser One all set.

Location of it.
(picture by @ majora_787 )

So, with this now without a further ado.

Blue, & Green, = shadow positions.

Red, & Yellow, = Approximate measurement of the shadow over here.

Hehehe look at that "Bowsers shadow is almost as big as Ridleys."

And going back to Rosalina's shadow.

Like I Said Rosalina, & Bowser Are Almost the same Height

I'm going to interject here. If you were to say, change the angle of Ridley's legs (or claws, whatever they are), his arm/leg is the same length of Rosalina's shadow.

My only other point that I would like to make, is that if Ridley's wings were the only things that were rather large, what does that mean for his body size? I can't imagine Ridley would be given a size reduction in only his body, but not his wings. We've seen Big body- small wings Ridley, we've seen Big Body- Big Wings Ridley, but we've never seen Small Body- Big Wing Ridley.

I simply can't wrap my mind around the concept of a character of that size, with wings the size of 2 Charizards. I just simply can't buy into that argument.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

I'm going to interject here. If you were to say, change the angle of Ridley's legs (or claws, whatever they are), his arm/leg is the same length of Rosalina's shadow.

My only other point that I would like to make, is that if Ridley's wings were the only things that were rather large, what does that mean for his body size? I can't imagine Ridley would be given a size reduction in only his body, but not his wings. We've seen Big body- small wings Ridley, we've seen Big Body- Big Wings Ridley, but we've never seen Small Body- Big Wing Ridley.

I simply can't wrap my mind around the concept of a character of that size, with wings the size of 2 Charizards. I just simply can't buy into that argument.

but that's the other m design his wings are bigger than his body

Double post sorry

I made another Gfycat, this one excluding the Yellow Devil portion and including the fadeout.
http://gfycat.com/SentimentalBronzeIndianrhinoceros

good job but its not as HD, as the other one.

(Slightly more blurry for short.)

 

[SchAlternate]

I'm going to interject here. If you were to say, change the angle of Ridley's legs (or claws, whatever they are), his arm/leg is the same length of Rosalina's shadow.

My only other point that I would like to make, is that if Ridley's wings were the only things that were rather large, what does that mean for his body size? I can't imagine Ridley would be given a size reduction in only his body, but not his wings. We've seen Big body- small wings Ridley, we've seen Big Body- Big Wings Ridley, but we've never seen Small Body- Big Wing Ridley.

I simply can't wrap my mind around the concept of a character of that size, with wings the size of 2 Charizards. I just simply can't buy into that argument.

inb4 Prime 1's Meta Ridley.

Among the smallest Ridley incarnations there are, but with a freaking huge wingspan.

 

[OblivionWolf]

I'm going to interject here. If you were to say, change the angle of Ridley's legs (or claws, whatever they are), his arm/leg is the same length of Rosalina's shadow.

My only other point that I would like to make, is that if Ridley's wings were the only things that were rather large, what does that mean for his body size? I can't imagine Ridley would be given a size reduction in only his body, but not his wings. We've seen Big body- small wings Ridley, we've seen Big Body- Big Wings Ridley, but we've never seen Small Body- Big Wing Ridley.

I simply can't wrap my mind around the concept of a character of that size, with wings the size of 2 Charizards. I just simply can't buy into that argument.

but that's the other m design his wings are bigger than his body

What Smashoperatingbuddy said his wings are not larger then normal. This is a 2D fighting game so they won't get in the way

Smashoperatingbuddy I wanted to know what you thought about the way Ridley flaps his wings in the direct. Its very odd. Its like his wings look always folded and he only flaps half way. Looks to be done on purpose so his wings wouldn't take up a ton of space.

 

[Deleted member]

I hate to be that person, but people are looking way too much into the shadows argument.

No matter what people want to say, the fact is that he's been explicitly hinted as a boss (well, Other M). There is no denying it, Other M Ridley is a boss and we do have to accept that. The ONLY way he is EVER going to be playable is if Ridley receives a twin-scenario role; which could happen, but probably won't.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

but that's the other m design his wings are bigger than his body

Double post sorry

good job but its not as HD, as the other one.

(Slightly more blurry for short.)

I don't know. It might just be the way I'm imagining Ridley showing up. I just always pictured Ridley as large, but downsized by a ratio. Like his wings wouldn't be astronomically larger than his body. Based on the size of his wings in the direct (if we're considering that as the actual size), the "Wing Shadow" is roughly three times the size of Charizard. So Both wings combined would be the size of 4-6 Charizards. It's not like Ridley's wings were huge but his body was "Small". He was big overall, but at a reasonable ratio.

Alright, maybe the wings wouldn't be hit-boxed. What about the "Body Shadow", which, arguably represents his arm holding Pikachu. The arm holding Pikachu looks, at least to me, as if it's the length of Bowser or Rosalina's shadows. That's quite the length of an arm.

These are just my observations on the whole "shadow" argument, and I still stay unconvinced that it makes him seem smaller based on the proportions I'm drawing out of it.

I mean hey, if he ends up playable then that's great. But I'm simply not buying it.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

What Smashoperatingbuddy said his wings are not larger then normal. This is a 2D fighting game so they won't get in the way

Smashoperatingbuddy I wanted to know what you thought about the way Ridley flaps his wings in the direct. Its very odd. Its like his wings look always folded and he only flaps half way. Looks to be done on purpose so his wings wouldn't take up a ton of space.

Yea i noticed that.

Ridleys wing flapping is also jerky just like Charizard, and Meta Knights, wings flapping.

But thats another supsicous sign. Because the brawl Ridleys wings flapping are not jerking.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

inb4 Prime 1's Meta Ridley.

Among the smallest Ridley incarnations there are, but with a freaking huge wingspan.

Ok, you have me here. But, do you seriously think his wings would be THAT much bigger in a playable role? He's gotta land sometime. Even if he folds them up on the ground, when he jumps, his wings would be astronomically larger than some of the bigger characters.

 

[SchAlternate]

Ok, you have me here. But, do you seriously think his wings would be THAT much bigger in a playable role? He's gotta land sometime. Even if he folds them up on the ground, when he jumps, his wings would be astronomically larger than some of the bigger characters.

Well, he could pull a Meta Knight and turn his wings into a cape when needed to.

Nah, but really, his wings would not be THAT large. Still pretty big, but not BIG AS SH*T

 

[The King of Skulls]

I hate to be that person, but people are looking way too much into the shadows argument.

No matter what people want to say, the fact is that he's been explicitly hinted as a boss (well, Other M). There is no denying it, Other M Ridley is a boss and we do have to accept that. The ONLY way he is EVER going to be playable is if Ridley receives a twin-scenario role; which could happen, but probably won't.

I would agree with you, but the inner 12 year old obsessed with dragons will not let me. Even if he is hinted, there's an iota of hope that a hint does not transition into fact.

On the other hand, canonically, Ridley can appear in two places at once, so there's that hope.

 

[Smashoperatingbuddy123]

Alright thats it!

The Ridley for Super Smash Brothers for Wii U / 3DS Thread Part 1

The Ridley for Super Smash Brothers for Wii U / 3DS Thread Part 2

Read that tell me if ridley is going to be no where near playable.

 

[Shinru202]

The TooBigots Fail...RIDLEY IS NOT TOO BIG!

 

[Spinosaurus]

The TooBigots Fail...RIDLEY IS NOT TOO BIG!

I really wish this TooBigot term could just die.

Might as well start others "shadow believers" or something.

 

[Pacack]

I really wish this TooBigot term could just die.

Might as well start others "shadow believers" or something.

From my understanding, they embrace the term most of the time...

 

[SchAlternate]

I really wish this TooBigot term could just die.

Well, we are to them the "Ridley F*gs", so...

 

[BKupa666]

There isn't a culture of making daily spam topics on other message boards or YouTube rants (that are then retracted when their a****** maker finds out they're a running joke) about how "Shadow = Definite Proof!!!!" even if some ridiculously and irrationally optimistic people here seem to imply that. What's more, the shadow people don't actively antagonize people who disagree with them, they just act as though anything can conclusively be determined from that shadow, which...it really can't. Which is dumb, yes, but totally different.

I'm goin' with TooBigots! TooBigots is the line! ...TooBigots! Yes!

 

[Dark Phazon]

I'm going to interject here. If you were to say, change the angle of Ridley's legs (or claws, whatever they are), his arm/leg is the same length of Rosalina's shadow.

My only other point that I would like to make, is that if Ridley's wings were the only things that were rather large, what does that mean for his body size? I can't imagine Ridley would be given a size reduction in only his body, but not his wings. We've seen Big body- small wings Ridley, we've seen Big Body- Big Wings Ridley, but we've never seen Small Body- Big Wing Ridley.

I simply can't wrap my mind around the concept of a character of that size, with wings the size of 2 Charizards. I just simply can't buy into that argument.

Its either hes not playable or Alfonzo thing then.

I see what you mean i agree.

I dont deny that is Ridley and if he is playable its not gonna be that Shadow Ridley imo.

People act like the Alfonzo situation is scrapping the bottom of the lowest barrel...its not imo for 2 reasons.

1. That stage hazard is a clone of Ridley

2. If he was playable i would expect them to Reveal him playable before his boss role or atleast announce it together you can run with this as a positive alfonzo back up to why he hasent been revealed as a boss yet +1? Kinda....Eh?

In my opnion believing that Shadow Ridley is more likely situation to be playable than the Alfonzo thing is well........i think the Alfonzo situation is more realistic.

I understand it is pretty crazy how small his body is but damn ...like Scohoilis said them wings are seriously massive take up abit more than half the stage......

Although yes what OblivionWolf and others are saying about wings in the foreground and folded when not in use etc for hurtboxes but those wings are seriously massive.

It is indeed like putting charizards wings on charmeleon

 

[Morbi]

I really wish this TooBigot term could just die.

Might as well start others "shadow believers" or something.

I actually enjoy the term, I feel like it is fairly creative. I mean, the misconception derives from the fact that most fallaciously assert that ALL Ridley detractors are "toobigots" when in actuality there are a plethora of reasons to denounce Ridley as a playable character.

 

[Scoliosis Jones]

The only reason I'm going with the shadow argument is to argue the exact opposite of what's being argued in here. Because really, they can't prove anything.

Wait until E3. If he gets revealed, then he gets revealed. He doesn't? I think it's curtains for Good ol' Riddles