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Not exactly. I was just using the terminology Golden provided. While being a boss is not necessarily a minor cameo, I would say that they are equal in value, in terms of Smash, at least. That's the idea behind the transitive property, after all. The key point in this case is that both are instances of a character appearing in a non-playable role. I am arguing that neither instance, on their own, is any more of a de-confirmation than the other.
Finish that, it's nice and hopefully playable Ridley can look similar to your drawing.
I don't think a stage boss can compare in terms of cameo-sity to a long standing villain relationship like Bowser.
Uhh, I don't see how either appearance could be considered a "minor" one. Both Ridley (assuming stage hazard) and Master Hand play a bigger part than a background character like Dedede in Dreamland (now that could be said to be a "minor cameo").
As I said, I am not claiming that boss characters are minor roles. The point I was trying to convey was that, in terms of Smash, both roles are instances of a character being in the game in some form that isn't that of a playable character. Neither can really be said to be more damaging to a characters chances than the other on their own.
I do understand, but then simply say that instead lol.
I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that Sakurai said that there wouldn't be any gimmicks with the Gamepad. And controlling something on a stage isn't the same as having a playable character. People want Ridley as a 100% playable character independent from any stage, not a "half-playable, full-stage hazard that you can control on one stage" compromise, making him "half-playable" would be rubbish.
Ridley's meant to be, from indication of sprites, twice as big as Samus. Samus is 6'3" (in her Varia suit), so Ridley would likely be 12'6" tall in his natural crouching state (his height when standing up doesn't matter since he's always crouching). Bowser's official height is over 9' tall (9'3" I think the exact measurement is), so that would make Ridley only a few feet taller than Bowser in Ridley's natural crouching stance, for his sprite forms. So if Yellow Devil is twice as big as Bowser, that would make him 18'6"? Much bigger than Ridley. Of course, since Smash Bros. messes around with sizes, Yellow Devil is probably much bigger than that canonically.
Thats exzactlt what i mean that if Ridley aint playable majority of people would think its because impossible or hes too BiG or scaling issues.
Remember my "Change of heart part" in my posts.
He never said Namco wouldn't get any content in Smash, he said they wouldn't receive special treatment over other 3rd party companies. That turned out to be a fat lie though, as there seems to be quite some Namco representation stretching to multiple franchises, while Sega and Capcom are still kept to one franchise only.
Is he smaller than Brawl Meta Ridley?
Man the deconfirming as of late.
Isn't Brawl Meta Ridley about the same size as Brawl normal Ridley? Unless Meta Ridley is significantly smaller than normal Ridley, then they would both be the same size, AKA larger than Yellow Devil.
Super Smash Bros. Crusade - It's a fangame and Ridley is in it.
Meta Ridley is smaller than regular Ridley in Brawl I'm fairly certain. With his wingspan he takes up more space than than Yellow Devil yes, but not if we count that out, and I'd almost count it out since they don't have hitboxes iirc.
I'm contesting this on the basis that Mother Brain's shadow proves it's impossible for Bowser's shadow to be on that spot of the stage. That particular area of the stage is already shaded darker than other parts of the floor. I myself have had to look at it carefully.
The thing with the shadow is, with Bowser's shadow outlined in green (I didn't bother trying to trace Ridley's shadow again)...
It is basically in the area of that orange triangle at its most spread out that we saw it, with the wings cropped off. So I mean Ridley is not some hulking massive thing. Roughly Bowser's size, definitely not Yellow Devil's size or anywhere near.
Blind Boss Confirmed!
I thought this was known. Yes that is Ridley's tail.
Sooo....the next boss will have no eyes and stump Bill gates, Albert einstein & Steven Hawkins in Intelligence?
I agree with you. The thing that makes it tricky is we never see the grab or see the let go.
Yeah I see what you're saying. I think i'll respond to your other post though. This is simply the way I'm looking at it.
Now, for all I know, this could be wrong. But, if you look at where Charizard's shadow ends up, it takes up about roughly 1/6 of the shape in the middle of the stage. It's not that big of a shadow really.I thought this was known. Yes that is Ridley's tail.
This also shows that shadows do stretch out alittle bit the lower they are to the ground. His tail being lower then his body.
See Greninja's shadow is stretched out but Charizard's isn't.
Its possible that Ridley's right foot is just lower to the ground then his left foot but its really hard to say. I mean it could make sense cuz Ridley's flying pose almost always has one leg higher then the other as seen here.
Forgive me for falling back on speculation on how Ridley could work, but a frakking huge wingspan probably wouldn't affect Ridley's hitboxes or chances. As long as he doesn't use them as attacks, they could theoretically be Palutena temple-long wings, the only complaints being some background/foreground clipping and being partially camera obscuring.
Here is Smashoperatingbuddy123 Ridley with no wings.
If the wings didn't have hitboxes then that's poor design. Visuals are an important aspect of fighting games, and if a significant part of a character's model doesn't have a hitbox in all his animation then it'd be unnecessarily confusing and problematic. There is absolutely no reason you can hit every other body part but not his wings unless they were insignificant.
You mean like Charizard's? His wings have hitboxes but you can't hit all of it and look at the tail hitbox. Ridley would be the same and its not like Ridley's wings will be pointing straight out all the time. They will most likely be folded when not flying. Why are people making a big deal outta the wings??? I honestly don't get it.
It is an important matter in regards to Ridley's design, in most of his designs his wings do make up a decent propertion of his form even compared to a character like Charizard and would be required for consideration if he were playable. So it's a fair thing to discuss whether your for or against his inclusion..
As I've said, Smash Bros is a 2D fighting game. Ridley could theoretically stick his wings into the foreground/ background straightened out instead of either directly behind him (drastically increasing his hitbox) or diagonally behind him a la Charizard, (making his hitbox much smaller than it appears)
Actually now that you say that look here. Ridley's doesn't seem to go all the way up with his wings. Its like he half flaps his wings. Interesting.....
Uh there is a hitbox there, a pretty big one. If you try to hit his wings you'll still still be able to hurt him. The tail really isn't a significant body part that you'd try to hit in comparison.You mean like Charizard's? His wings have hitboxes but you can't hit all of it and look at the tail hitbox. Ridley would be the same and its not like Ridley's wings will be pointing straight out all the time. They will most likely be folded when not flying. Why are people making a big deal outta the wings??? I honestly don't get it.
So you're saying that while Brawl Ridley he flaps his wings 180 degrees, he appears to flap em 90 degrees now?Actually now that you say that look here. Ridley's doesn't seem to go all the way up with his wings. Its like he half flaps his wings. Interesting.....
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