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Important The Ridley for SSB4 Thread - End of an Era

LiteTheIronMan

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hey guys if Sakurai is waiting for specific games to come out before revealing certain characters do you think that means there'll be a new Metroid game coming out soon

#wishfulthinking
 

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hey guys if Sakurai is waiting for specific games to come out before revealing certain characters do you think that means there'll be a new Metroid game coming out soon

#wishfulthinking
I remember hearing something about Nintendo wanting Retro to make a new Metroid. I could be completely wrong though.
 

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hey guys if Sakurai is waiting for specific games to come out before revealing certain characters do you think that means there'll be a new Metroid game coming out soon

#wishfulthinking
Doubt it, by the sounds of it it's only in the planning stages.
 

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Perhaps Retro can finally push the Metroid series past my personal 2d favorite Metroid Fusion. Also you shouldn't lose total hope until Ridley is confirmed as the pyroshere's stage hazard or not. Personally with all the screenshots of this particular stage such a SIGNIFIGANT DETAIL shouldnot have been missed. You'd think Ridley would have jumped out of a screenshot and scared us half to death by now, but still no pics and I'm not giving up on playable Ridley until Sakurai proves otherwise. Besides isn't boss fight to stage hazard a step down.
 

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Step up/Step down.
It depends on the character and where he can justify himself the best.

As for Ridley turning into a Hazard, it's a step down, imo, since hazards normally doesn't have an array of moves in their moveset.
And Ridley's got tons off stuff that are better off represented by a boss or AT.
 

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Being a boss has been done to death and I honestly can't imagine Him helping the player especially when His personality is brought to mind. Being a playable character would really standout in contrast to his long history of being the monster Samus slays in almost every game. That and Samy needs her nemesis.
 

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Being a stage hazard is imo a step down too, since stages with hazards are usually just banned and disabled either way. I know I'd disable the stage, unless it's a 4 player free for all, but I'd never dream of playing a 1v1 on such a stage. On the other hand, since this looks to be a hazard-less stage thus far I'm gonna enjoy the Pyrosphere stage.
 

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Only NERDS ban stages, and anyway how would that be any different than Ridley being tucked away in some boring mode you only ever want to play once.

As part of the stage you get to appreciate him more often.
 

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If he end up as a stage hazard, I think I will avoid to play on the Pyrosphere as much as I can, because it will feel like a slap in the face everytime I see him flying in the background, so close to the battlefield yet not playable =/
 

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Only NERDS ban stages, and anyway how would that be any different than Ridley being tucked away in some boring mode you only ever want to play once.

As part of the stage you get to appreciate him more often.
I'll tell you, I've played Boss Battles more than I have battled on, say Distant Planet. That both comes from me having played Boss Battles a lot with friends, and the fact that I hate stages that are too gimmicky. If Ridley's a stage hazard, then I'll likely play Pyrosphere 1v1 willingly three or four times (discounting moments like in Classic where if forces you on the stage,) and then that's it, because I always choose the stages I find the most fair, aka Smashville, Yoshi's Story, Battlefield, FD, etc. If it's a 4 player free for all or just joke matches, then I'm all in on stage hazards, heck I don't even mind stage hazards like the pig guy on Bridge of Eldin, the Arwings on Corneria, or the simply lava rising in Brinstar in 1v1. But when the stage hazards are heavy, like Brinstar Depths, Distant Planet or Spear Pillar, then I don't want to play them, at least not 1v1. I'm sure we can agree that if Ridley's a stage hazard, then he'll cause some serious trouble.

I really hope there's no hazard on Pyrosphere at all, no hazard in any shape or form, not only for Ridley's sake, but because I'd love to have this stage played often, especially since its long width means that Samus will excel on it. If Ridley isn't a character yet again, then I'd like it the most if he became a boss again, and hopefully a little more mobile this time around.
 

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If Ridley isn't a character yet again, then I'd like it the most if he became a boss again, and hopefully a little more mobile this time around.
My only problem if Ridley became a Boss once again is all the people who are going to jump on the "Sakurai see Ridley as a Boss, so he will stay a Boss" train.
 

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My only problem if Ridley became a Boss once again is all the people who are going to jump on the "Sakurai see Ridley as a Boss, so he will stay a Boss" train.
That's true, but if Ridley misses this game I'm not really counting on him in the future, so might as well make the best of it.
 

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That's true, but if Ridley misses this game I'm not really counting on him in the future, so might as well make the best of it.
If he don't make the cut I would like to see him become an Assist Trophy personally, it's one of the only position who people see as a positive one, it's still use in favor of characters like Little Mac, Samurai Goroh or other Waluigi.

Ridley could even bring something new by being the first Assist trophy to attack everyone regardless of who summon him.
 

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I really hope there's no hazard on Pyrosphere at all, no hazard in any shape or form, not only for Ridley's sake, but because I'd love to have this stage played often, especially since its long width means that Samus will excel on it. If Ridley isn't a character yet again, then I'd like it the most if he became a boss again, and hopefully a little more mobile this time around.
Looking at the screenshots, Pyrosphere looks like yet another Metroid riding/falling acid/lava stage. So even if Ridley isn't involved, I'm betting there's still going to be some hazard like that.
 

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If he don't make the cut I would like to see him become an Assist Trophy personally, it's one of the only position who people see as a positive one, it's still use in favor of characters like Little Mac, Samurai Goroh or other Waluigi.

Ridley could even bring something new by being the first Assist trophy to attack everyone regardless of who summon him.
That'd just be super awkward to me. An assist trophy can't be too big unless it goes into the background, because otherwise it'll bug extremely much on stages like Luigi's Mansion. So that means that either he'd fly into the background, which would be odd for Ridley to do since he always goes head first into battle, but it's still a possibility, or he could be scaled down, which begs the question why he wasn't playable to begin with. For Metroid I think characters like Anthony just screams AT, or they could just keep the Metroid AT which is already the funniest AT to use since it screws people up so much.

Looking at the screenshots, Pyrosphere looks like yet another Metroid riding/falling acid/lava stage. So even if Ridley isn't involved, I'm betting there's still going to be some hazard like that.
In Other M the lava was ever flowing too, but the lava never rose in that battle either. The lava hazard idea begs the same question as the Ridley hazard idea, if it's true then why hasn't it been shown by now? Of course it's not out of question, especially not since the platforms on the stage seem to fit well with a lava stage. Even if it'd be a bit dissapointing it'd still be better than hazard Ridley.
 

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Playable >>>>>> Assist Trophy > Boss > Stage Hazard Because Cresselia and Whispy Woods are so important to their series. 9_9
 
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Last I checked, this thread was about a purple space dragon, not a tree.
 

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I personally think that for him to be put in as a boss or Assist Trophy would be an even bigger troll than stage hazard
 

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Whispy Woods and Kraid should be a tag team, since ya know, they're both not very mobile.

I guess if it makes other Ridley fans feel any better, if he's a stage hazard, all those hating on him will fall prey to him when he kills them as a hazard at one point or another. So in the end, Ridley would still have his revenge in a way.
 

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Whispy Woods and Kraid should be a tag team, since ya know, they're both not very mobile.

I guess if it makes other Ridley fans feel any better, if he's a stage hazard, all those hating on him will fall prey to him when he kills them as a hazard at one point or another. So in the end, Ridley would still have his revenge in a way.
Stage hazard is in insult personally as well as the boss battle bit, it feels like sakurai is popping off at Ridley fans...
 

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Whispy Woods and Kraid should be a tag team, since ya know, they're both not very mobile.

I guess if it makes other Ridley fans feel any better, if he's a stage hazard, all those hating on him will fall prey to him when he kills them as a hazard at one point or another. So in the end, Ridley would still have his revenge in a way.
No... it really doesn't help...
 

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No... it really doesn't help...
Not even if you were to play against someone you know here or somewhere to be a Ridley hater and lead them to their doom (towards Ridley) on Pyrosphere? That would be satisfying for me at the very least, if I can't play as him.

I know what I'm saying isn't gonna help everyone obviously, but I'm just trying to make the best of whatever possible outcome there is for Rids at this point, as opposed to creating more drama over a deconfirmation with him like I did post-Brawl. :\ I suppose that's inevitable for a chunk of the fanbase though if he's not playable.
 

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This doesn't change my views on his chances since I was expecting Toon Link anyway, but anyone who didn't will probably change their perception of Ridley because of it. It certainly helps our arguments for him, at least.
I was expecting time constraints to defeat my old Brawl main, but his appearance doesn't have any impact on Ridley in my book. I still say if Ridley is in the background of that stage, he will not be playable.

Fortunately, I still have hope that the only way he'll be on that stage is if a player chooses him to play as.
 

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So people here now think Ridley is going to be a stage hazard or not?
At this point, I have faith that's he not.

This has been dragging out WAAAAAY too long for something as simple as a stage hazard.
 
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