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I've always advocated for Impa, BWD, and especially Dixie but was never sure if the support for them existed beyond token appreciation. This poll has been a pleasant surprise in seeing that there is a strong sense by people that they belong in Smash. Especially for Dixie who's been short changed for so many appearances in stuff like Mario Kart and not been granted the quantity of games she warrants, seeing her get that number one slot is both lovely and vindicating.
While I put my vote to most of them, Raven Beak, members of the Kid Icarus cast, and Funkey Kong doing so well were big surprises to me initially(Though there were certainly more beyond that). But I just came to understand that the basis of the polls allows for such characters to get the spotlight.
Urban Champion. honestly didn't expect him to reach double figures
I do have to wonder if the idols may have done better if paired up instead. Nevertheless, I’m a bit disappointed but unsurprised with these results. I believe Octoling is a moderate want by most people, the obvious next step for a growing series so it’s an easy blank to fill. Splatoon getting a second character is palatable enough, especially since many probably have the impression of it being a simple echo fighter.
I voted for Chorus Kids (my MW) and not Karate Joe as well. In reality I would be happy with anything, but my endorsement goes behind the wackier oddball picks to represent the wacky oddball series over the martial artist. I also voted for Barista, Yuka and Wrestler at the very least.
In general, it seems like the most popular characters were older characters who were already fairly popular before Ultimate. I suppose it's because of Ultimate's differing priorities; Most Smash games are a mix of popular requests and whoever's relevant to the current console, but Ultimate prioritized veterans above all else, and ballot picks second, leaving us with only 11 newcomers (Including five clones) and four stages in the base game. Then the DLC shifted to primarily third-parties, and the few Nintendo characters were from Switch games specifically. To me, the poll confirms that there's a fair bit of characters who did decently well on the ballot but got screwed over by the limited roster space. Of course, this also doesn't include third-parties, but it still shows there's a fair few first-parties that would be met with applause.
Octoling debuted on the Wii U
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Chibi-Robo lives on in the hearts of fans and I'm surprised he cracked top 20. I love seeing the littler guys get some love, so good for him honestly.
I do think Black Shadow would have done pretty well regardless. Just by his own merits, he's a really popular F-Zero character. He's plot important, unlike most of the cast and had a big appearance in the anime.
Yeah, he's the main villain for most of the games, right? He was the victim of the anime's big galaxy-scale Falcon Punch and all that.
It's not impossible to make him play differently from Falcondorf. Especially when you HAVE to considering the "decloned" Ganondorf in Project M still retains a lot of Falcon DNA
I think it’s worth noting that third parties aren’t part of this poll. Ultimate Speculation mostly moved the needle on third party speculation with new trends like Crash, Dante and Master Chief/Doom Guy. The first party selection might feel like a time capsule from the ballot times because Ultimate DLC discussion didn’t have its biggest developments or trends aimed at first parties.
To be honest I take no offense at the idea of Octoling being a pure-clone Echo, they’re two sides of the same coin in Splatoon and while more weapon rep would be nice, they could also just take that in the form of Dark Pit-like reskins from the Inkling‘s weapons.
Splatoon, Pikmin and Animal Crossing made a huge splash in the Switch era and grew into mascot series for Nintendo and I think they’re worth exploring even beyond their most obvious frontrunner picks. Pikmin could maybe get away with Echo Alph, Shepherd & Oatchi and maybe even Louie & Moss as an Oatchi echo.
Would be interesting to see! I voted for Chorus Kids and Wrestler for both being characters that can show the call-and-response gameplay of Rhythm Heaven.
That's very true, but the poll is also very freeform and lets you pick as many fighters as you want. If nothing else, it still shows there's a decent few first-parties that would be met with solid applause, especially if Smash 6 reverts to a more traditional newcomer setup.
Funky Kong and Chibi-Robo stood out to me especially. I mean, despite EVERYTHING the latter in particular has had to suffer through, it does my heart good to see HIM in the top 20 (21).
Anna from Fire Emblem being bumped out of the top 5 for Fire Emblem was... something. Same goes for Waluigi NOT being #1 and Yuka NOT being about... let's say 10-15 places higher from where she currently is was a bit of a bummer.
Better than I expected?
This is how I feel too, and I’ve even toyed with the prospect of them being an alternate skin (I think this is more likely than people think, although a clone is still the most likely). This makes Octoling such a weirdly compelling character. Their presence in the next game is a 100% certainty, but how fleshed out they will be is entirely up in the air. You could have them take up four of Inkling’s alt colors, you could make them a fully unique newcomer with a new weapon loadout. I can’t think of any other fighter with this many viable outlets toward representation.
I literally don't understand this. He has that famous scene in the anime where he gets Falcon Punched into an exploding galaxy, his superhero villain design is unique, and Captain Falcon had literally ZERO moveset before Sakurai invented it for him. They could easily give Black Shadow a crazy martial artist bruiser moveset, he looks like a very physically powerful character.
I think Geno's copyright status is very muddled, I don't think people clearly know he's a Square Enix created character (and still owned by them IIRC)
This is certainly an explanation for why maybe some people might miss him, but I am sure many just outright assume he is a normal Mario character as well, so its hard to determine if this is a major factor in why Geno is surprisingly low. If this was a flaw in the system, I don't think its a major one since it really only notably effected a handful of characters at most, with Geno being the only one that seems obvious, but its still something to consider.
Make it a point that people can use Ctrl + F to check if the character they're looking for is in the poll.
It has been very clear from the suggestions box, that half the people don't read instructions.
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This makes sense to me, mostly because we got to see Raven Beak in action and that’s relatively fresh in our minds. Sylux isn’t exactly a brand new face, but I think actually knowing his role in Prime 4 and seeing what he does in that game will make or break him. The trailer just confirms to us what we already assumed, which is that he is in the game.
I don’t think it’s particularly fair, although I guess on paper it makes sense if you’re judging off last brand new release.
Yeah, I'd say DK and F-Zero are chilled at the moment, but not entirely on ice. They still haven't seen a new mainline title in ages; In DK's case, his most prominent appearences have been as parts of the Mario universe. The characters are still active, but they're still just supporting roles to the Mario cast. Even so, they're still doing something with the series, so they're clearly not dead in the water, either. It's an odd in-between.
Hey everyone, just to make a quick correction here.
I'll understand if you'd rather not bother looking into this, but I assume my suggestion of Naomi Moriha [Jasmine Callsign] from Jet Impulse [DS Air] was the ONLY suggestion for the character?
They got three votes apparently.
Wow, she did???
Ninten? I thought it was Yoshino
Unfortunately, I feel like it always delves back into that.
This "core problem" being what, exactly?
