The Old Diddy Social/General/Q&A Thread

[tibs7]

Ladies, tibs just won another tourny...
The other person in the gf's forfeited after i was winning 2-0 lol

 

[Player-3]

what? who were you playing?


was shaya there?

if he lost to you i'm going to be dissapointed

 

[tibs7]

No he's from diff state but I beat him last time at the major I won.

I was playing toshiba, not that you've heard of him lol....

 

[Player-3]

oh

wtf shaya is losing to diddys


ugggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

shaya sucks

 

[Player-1]

I heard that we're talking about how much shaya sucks?

 

[Grizzer]

I heard that we're talking about how much shaya sucks?

inb4shayaneamsearches
hehe, any other diddies winning tourneys in their region?

 

[GDX]

inb4shayaneamsearches
hehe, any other diddies winning tourneys in their region?

only doubles

i cant beat a campy snake in singles to save my life

 

[Sodaplay111]

how do u play snake as diddy? cuz u can't really out camp him?

 

[happytif]

Is supossed to be... diddy? I kinda can see his face on that...

 

[GooseMainsDiddy]

Hey guys remember me? I'm just stopping by to say hi. I might be entering some big tourneys this summer so you guys will see a lot more of me.

 

[ChocoNaner]

how do u play snake as diddy? cuz u can't really out camp him?

be grabby

dont let yurself get camped

be patient

use da monkey hump

:B

 

[tibs7]

Snake mu is really silly.
you hve to work so much harder for the kill, it makes me rage bad.

But ummm yeah, you can't camp too much otherwise he'll just move in slowly on you and you'll get boxed in and pressured and all this other ****. When that happens though just dj monkey flip over him with a nana in hand for safety.

For attacking him. You pretty much have to throw a banana as soon as he pulls a grenade out, but remember to mix that part up with sideb coz half the time they will shield expecting the nana.
Also remember your spacing, sometimes it's good not to always gt forward and pressure as they will expect it and do a random ftilt that you can punish.

Sdi ftilt is good to, start mashing the direction as soon as you do a laggy attack on snakes shield.

Overall the mu is stupid for diddy. Just go mk or some ****

 

[vato_break]

i'd say go for hella gimmicks but, don't put your self at to much risks. Gabbing them at the edge of the stage seems to put them in really bad posistions sometimes too.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Does anyone here know the fastest way to buffer a running Usmash? because I found a way that is fast

 

[Player-1]

when you buffer a move it takes place on the very first frame possible, in brawl you have 10 frames to buffer a move, but whenever you buffer a move it still comes out on the first frame possible whether you input it 1 frame before that limit is up or 7, so IDK how you can buffer a move faster than another buffer unless you mean the whole sequence combined (including the move you buffer out of) which then I would think it'd be like putting your shield down to a buffered usmash.




btw, when I was working on the bdacus a couple of weeks ago I tried doing the dash attack with the c-stick up and then usmash with the a button and I did the bdacus like 10 times in a row without messing up on my first try, but then I woke up the next day and for some reason couldn't do it and I still can't do it =/, it may be easier for some of you to do it like this

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Yeah, I messed up. What I mean't to say what is the best way to buffer an Usmash (without going into a dash attack animation). lets see if someone can figure this out

 

[Player-1]

i still don't get what you're trying to say =/

 

[SaveMeJebus]

how do you buffer a running dash attack without dash attacking instead?

 

[Player-1]

a running dash attack without the dash attack...? You input a move or animation an 10 frames before than animation ends you input a dash...

 

[SaveMeJebus]

how do you buffer a running Usmash without dash attacking instead is what I meant to say

 

[Player-1]

buffer a runing usmash (hyphen smash) from any move...?

 

[SaveMeJebus]

no. that causes you to buffer a dash attack instead. you guys give up?

 

[Player-1]

not if you use your attack button for the usmash and use your cstick

 

[sai_:)]

...Are we really that interested in u-smash?

Also, community Diddy video. I really think we should put more discussion into this. Diddy has/had a retardedly fast moving metagame.However we were playing him back then I'm sure is far different than how we play him now. Was vyse the only one with the equipment to do it???

 

[SaveMeJebus]

I tried that and it doesn't come out at the first possible frame. the way I do it is, I use an attack and then I buffer a dash. Then I jump and I cancel it with a c-stick up or up a(jump canceled Usmash). I found this to be the easiest way to buffer a running Usmash and it works great out of tilts

 

[Player-1]

yeah it's easier than my way, but the way i posted definitely works.

 

[Gnes]

Who cares its upsmash, should be more worried about the ****ing mk population

 

[Player-1]

mk sux .

 

[sai_:)]

I cant believe almost an entire page back there was wasted on freaking up smash.

We need to discuss real stuff for diddy like shooting more peanuts

 

[SaveMeJebus]

Up smash is not that bad. It's good at racking up the damage

 

[sai_:)]

so is **** near everything else diddy can do

 

[Player-1]

let's go back to discussing

 

[SaveMeJebus]

at sai90, whats your point?

 

[AvaricePanda]

i think is a pretty cool guy, eh can hold 3 bananas and doesnt afraid of anything

In all honesty U-smash is a pretty good move. I was using it quite a bit more than usual yesterday and it seemed to be helping me. It racks up damage quickly and snuffs some aerial mix-ups (I was playing Krystedez's Wario and waiting in shield to U-smash beat out quite a bit of his "lol I can DI like a balloon" tricksies).

If you're facing someone who lands predictably and/or lands with airdodge, u-smash is really good because it does however much damage it does (yay me not memorizing numbers) and knocks them back up where you can repeat lol. For example, Snake can land with airdodge, grenade or B-reversed grenade, or B-air. If I notice he likes to airdodge I can u-smash and put him back up, then right before he's in range to possibly attack with an FF b-air, I shield and react to whatever he does.

oh yeah, I $5 dollar MMd Judge yesterday (technically two days ago)
In other news, I lost $5.

We did a bo5 and he won 3-0 lol. Game 2 I counterpicked Halberd, and it actually worked pretty well. HL2 (the stoic stage where there's all the hazards and whatnot) is REALLY good for Diddy. HL1 is eh...I feel like with more practice on the stage I could work around some things there. Diddy can deal with it, but open bottom gives MK more options for approaching and poking in hits. I also don't like how the top platform covers pretty much up until the slopes on HL1. More space between the edge and where the platform is on HL2 seems to work much better for me.

tl;dr: I'm going to start counterpicking Halberd against MKs. Right now it's to get better at HL1 and explore the stage in general, but I think I'll probably put it up there. IMO, Halberd is in the same tier as BF and SV for counterpicks against MK.

 

[Gnes]

U guys do realize up smash is easy to smash DI out of right....

But i do agree thats good against people who airdodge onto u, but not snake, who should be landing with a nade most of the time

 

[AvaricePanda]

that is true. I just needed an example lol.

It's good but is one of those things that should only be good if the opponent doesn't know how to get out and/or too lazy to learn to SDI better (like Fox's D-air lol. I did like 4 U-smashes against Clowsui's Marth and later just told him he could upB out of them.

 

[Player-1]

you can SDI out of fox's dair...? >.>

 

[sai_:)]

at sai90, whats your point?

My point is basically that most of the time when you could be up smashing theres better things you could be doing. Its a pretty lame attack, and I'm surprised this much discussion was spent on it.

The best I can really see from it is a mixup

 

[AvaricePanda]

you can SDI out of fox's dair...? >.>

You can SDI out of the follow-ups (at least out of jab and grab range easily and I think u-tilt as well) but you need really good SDI. I guess a better move to say would have been his F-air, because if he doesn't retreat it, it can and should be punished on hit depending on character + SDI.

 

[SaveMeJebus]

I think the opponent will only DI it if they see it coming. I think it is still worth using every now and then