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The Old Counter Game

0RLY

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Platypus

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We keep making mindless mistakes; it's time that this moved on...

Parasect w/Micle Berry
Adamant/Dry Skin
255 Atk./ 255 Speed
+ Toxic
+ Spore
+ Natural Gift
+ Giga Impact
I don't have to start with Toxic... I can put Gastrodon to sleep with no trouble at all. If Empoleon shows up again, I will be sad.
 

Platypus

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With all due respect to the Toed, I hardly care anymore.

To beat Parasect:

Qwilfish w/Lum Berry
(+Sp. Atk. -Sp. Def.)/Poison Point
80 Atk./ 160 Def./ 125 Sp. Atk./ 145 Speed
+ Bounce
+ Revenge
+ Hydro Pump
+ Shadow Ball
Defense is key to the defensive! Furthermore, there's little hope that Parasect will survive Bounce with no EVs, or so I assume.
 

IC3R

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With all due respect to the Toed, I hardly care anymore.

To beat Parasect:

Qwilfish w/Lum Berry
(+Sp. Atk. -Sp. Def.)/Poison Point
80 Atk./ 160 Def./ 125 Sp. Atk./ 145 Speed
+ Bounce
+ Revenge
+ Hydro Pump
+ Shadow Ball
Defense is key to the defensive! Furthermore, there's little hope that Parasect will survive Bounce with no EVs, or so I assume.
You countered yourself lol....

Mantine @ Lum Berry
Modest / Water Absorb
EVs - 252 HP, 4 Def, 252 SpAtt
~Surf
~Ice Beam
~Hidden Power [Electric]
~Agility

Stat up with Agility, and proceed to sweep. Lum Berry to cure possible Paralysis from Bounce.
 

Platypus

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My...concrete...angels.

Surf
Ice Beam
Hidden Power (Electric)

This is a very common moveset. Please stop using it.

EDIT: Now, to counter Mantine:

Rotom (C) w/Leftovers
(+Sp. Atk -Def)/Levitate
155 Atk./ 100 Sp. Atk./ 255 Sp. Def.
+ Thunder
+ Leaf Storm
+ Sucker Punch
+ Signal Beam
I don't know if this is an acceptable counter... Statistics for Rotom are available here.
 

Pink Reaper

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Pinser@Nothing
Careful/Mold Breaker
252Atk/200SpDef/56Spe
-Swords Dance
-Theif
-Close Combat
-Earthquake

Mold Breaker bypasses Levitate so I can hit you with SE Earthquake. Any one of your attacks + Sucker Punch fails to KO me.

Please don't use platinum forme pokemon in the counter game, it makes doing calcs too difficult.
 

Ilucamy

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@ Pinser

Crobat@Black Sludge
Inner Focus/Adamant
252 Atk/200 HP/56 Sp. Def
-Brave Bird
-Cross Poison
-U-Turn
-Torment

Pretty simple. Your strongest atk against me would be thief, and you would have to grab the black sludge. Torment basically wastes every other turn for you and Brave Bird is for the kill.
 

Pika25

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Vs. Crobat:

Lunatone w/(anti-Water Berry)
Modest/Levitate
255 Sp. Atk./ 255 Def.
+ Blizzard
+ Psywave
+ Earth Power
+ Hyper Beam
Eeey...Is it just me, or are all of Lunatone's moves awesome-sounding?
The anti water berry is called Passho.

No STAB? Psywave does random damage, so it's not a reliable STAB move.

I can't think of a BL or lower counter. If the rule is "no OU, no über", Bronzong can't be used. That's what I first thought of, but then I realized that said rule was in play.
 

Pink Reaper

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Vs. Crobat:

Lunatone w/(anti-Water Berry)
Modest/Levitate
255 Sp. Atk./ 255 Def.
+ Blizzard
+ Psywave
+ Earth Power
+ Hyper Beam
Eeey...Is it just me, or are all of Lunatone's moves awesome-sounding?
Kecleon@Leftovers
Modest/Color Change
252SpAtk/252Hp/4SpDef
-Nasty Plot
-Fire Blast
-Skill Swap
-Shadow Ball

COLOR CHANGE SUCKS
 

Pink Reaper

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Versus the chameleon:

Purugly w/Focus Sash
(+Sp. Def. -Def.)/Thick Fat
255 Atk./ 255 Sp. Def.
+ Assist
+ Swagger
+ Sucker Punch
+ Body Slam
I don't care what it is that you plan to do; with five purely Drain-Punching Mewtwo in reserve, I am the walrus!
Slowbrow@Leftovers
Bold/Own Tempo
252Hp/252Def/4SpAtk
-Calm Mind
-Slack Off
-Focus Blast
-Shadow Ball

Ok, real counter now.
 

IC3R

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Even though it's too late, I had thought of this yesterday to counter that Purugly (I had no Internet access, though T__T):

IC3R said:
Mismagius @ Persim Berry
Timid / Levitate
EVs - 4 HP, 252 SpAtt, 252 Spd
~Shadow Ball
~Hidden Power [Fighting]
~Calm Mind
~Substitute

Persim Berry saves me from Swagger, and I can Sub up to avoid other Swaggers. Sucker Punch is the only attack of Purugly's that can hit me, but if I Sub and CM, I don't get hit anyway. Shadow Ball + HP Fighting for perfect coverage.
It's a generic set, but it works.

Anyway, @ Skuntank:

Flygon @ Leftovers
Jolly / Levitate
EVs - 4 HP, 252 Att, 252 Spd
~Outrage
~Dragon Claw
~Earthquake
~Fire Punch

Owned.
 

Wii4Mii 99

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It's good to see that the Counter Game is functioning properly despite the absence of its creator. ^_^
 

Pink Reaper

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Against Rhyperior:

Rotom (N) w/Wide Lens
(+Def. -Atk)/Levitate
200 Sp. Atk./ 200 Def./ 110 Speed
+ HP Grass
+ Thunder
+ Shadow Ball
+ Will-o-wisp
Yasa...
Camerupt@Leftovers
Modest/Solid Rock
4Hp/252SpAtk/252SpDef
-Eruption
-Earth Power
-HP Dark
-Flash Cannon

HP Dark 2HKO's while you fail to 3HKO with Shadow Ball.
 

Platypus

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For this anti-Camerupt, I am reluctant, but...

Mantine w/Expert Belt
(+Atk. -Def.)/Swift Swim
200 Atk./ 155 Def./ 55 Sp. Atk./ 100 Sp. Def.
+ RAIN DANCE
+ HYDRO PUMP
+ EARTHQUAKE
+ IRON HEAD
THIS IS THE SOUND AND THE FURY. LET THE RAIN FALL AND WASH AWAY YOUR WRITHING FORM; THOUGH A CHEAP SHOT COULD TURN THE RAIN IN THE DIRECTION OF DARKNESS, I TRIGGER IT FOR POWER AND SPEED. THE POCKET MONSTER KITE WITH THE MAGICAL DEFENSE OVERPOWERS THE FEEBLE MAGMA CAMEL LIKE A STORM BREAKS THE BONDS OF SAND.
CAPS LOCK IS CRUISE CONTROL FOR COOL!
 

sonofthesky

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Mewtwo@Life orb
252 spatk 252 spd 4 sp def
Modest
Shadow ball
Aura sphere
Willowisp
Calm mind

If you cant counter this, ignore it.

*Inb4 UU **** D:*
 

Pink Reaper

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Mewtwo@Life orb
252 spatk 252 spd 4 sp def
Modest
Shadow ball
Aura sphere
Willowisp
Calm mind

If you cant counter this, ignore it.

*Inb4 UU **** D:*
Venusaur@Leftovers
Sassy/Overgrow
252Hp/252SpDef/4Def
-Amnesia
-Toxic
-Rest
-Light Screen

I can't beat you in a fight, but I can stall you to death. No matter which move you use first Light Screen + Amnesia will mean no matter what you'll never be able to Calm Mind fast enough to KO me and Rest will heal off any excess damage as you KO yourself with LO recoil. If you try and stall me out Toxic wears you down faster.
 

KirbyKaze

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Beedrill @ Leftovers
Jolly / Swarm
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
- Iron Defense
- Swords Dance
- Agility
- X-Scissor

BEEDRILL SWEEP OH YEAH

I'm immune to Toxic. I can Iron Defense myself and Agility on your feeble attempts to Toxic me into oblivion and then sweep with +6 defense/speed/attack Beedrill and destroy the universe with STAB X-Scissors. Amnesia does nothing because my monstrous 80 base attack strikes Venusaur's feeble 83 defense base.

BEEDRILL FOR LIFE
 

sonofthesky

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Venusaur@Leftovers
Sassy/Overgrow
252Hp/252SpDef/4Def
-Amnesia
-Toxic
-Rest
-Light Screen

I can't beat you in a fight, but I can stall you to death. No matter which move you use first Light Screen + Amnesia will mean no matter what you'll never be able to Calm Mind fast enough to KO me and Rest will heal off any excess damage as you KO yourself with LO recoil. If you try and stall me out Toxic wears you down faster.
I just died A little Inside. Oh well, time to be cheap again.

Genger@Specs
ShadowLOL
 

Pink Reaper

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Beedrill @ Leftovers
Jolly / Swarm
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 4 HP
- Iron Defense
- Swords Dance
- Agility
- X-Scissor

BEEDRILL SWEEP OH YEAH

I'm immune to Toxic. I can Iron Defense myself and Agility on your feeble attempts to Toxic me into oblivion and then sweep with +6 defense/speed/attack Beedrill and destroy the universe with STAB X-Scissors. Amnesia does nothing because my monstrous 80 base attack strikes Venusaur's feeble 83 defense base.

BEEDRILL FOR LIFE
Before I go on to **** that bee in the face you do understand how the counter game works right? It acts as if the next counter comes in on turn one, so instead of +6 attack/speed/defense you'd have at best +2 at one.

Anyways

Something Rock/Steel Type@Not that it matters
Adamant/Whatever
252Hp/252Atk/4Spe
-Stone Edge probably
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-Focus Punch

Lets say....agron, its both types so its lazy.
 
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