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The Old Counter Game

0RLY

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@ Wormadam:

Bastiodon @ Focus Sash
Sturdy/Relaxed
252 HP/32 Def/224 SpD
-Taunt
-Metal Burst
-Curse
-Rock Blast

If this is broken, just say so. I'll change the moveset around. I already wall Wormadam to eternity, so I don't really care. I'm only saying this because I have no idea how to counter this set either.
 

Pink Reaper

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@Bastidon

Granbull@Leftovers
Adamant/Intimidate
252Atk/200Spe/56Hp
-Rock Smash
-Close Combat
-Bulk Up
-Feint Attack

Comes in on any of your moves and Rock Smashes away a large chunk of your health, and still manages to survive if you metal burst. CC destroys you afterwords. Bulk Up/Feint Attack are really just filler.
 

M.K

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@Bastidon

Granbull@Leftovers
Adamant/Intimidate
252Atk/200Spe/56Hp
-Rock Smash
-Close Combat
-Bulk Up
-Feint Attack

Comes in on any of your moves and Rock Smashes away a large chunk of your health, and still manages to survive if you metal burst. CC destroys you afterwords. Bulk Up/Feint Attack are really just filler.
Medicham @ Leftovers
Adamant / Pure Power
252 Attack/ 252 Speed/ 4 Def.
-Psycho Cut
-Brick Break
-Thunderpunch
-Bulk Up

I hope this works ;_;
 

Pika25

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I must move with haste, I think!

Against Mismagius:

Wormadam (T) w/Salac Berry
(-HP +Sp. Atk.)/Anticipation
100 Atk./ 50 Def./ 100 Sp. Atk./ 50 Sp. Def./ 255 Speed
+ Shadow Ball
+ Iron Head
+ Skill Swap
+ HP Rock
After Skill Swap, I am immune to your assaults. Assuming that you use Psych Up first, I shouldn't take too much damage thereof.
there is no nature for -hp. Try mild instead.

To counter medicham
claydol@leftovers
220 HP / 184 def / 52 at / 52 sp.at relaxed
earth power
psychic
explosion
shadow ball

This counts, doesn't it?
 

IC3R

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Explosion is meaningless, as it would mean your death. Assume Giga Impact instead.

EDIT: Wait- this is a counter to Wormadam! Bastiodon wasn't broken (it could live without the Sash), so we weren't just to move on.

It's currently Medicham "on the docket".
How exactly is it "on the docket?" Counter is below VVV

To counter medicham
claydol@leftovers
220 HP / 184 def / 52 at / 52 sp.at relaxed
earth power
psychic
explosion (or Giga Impact?)
shadow ball

This counts, doesn't it?
It does count; therefore, I shall counter it.

Regigigas @ Leftovers
Jolly (0 SpAtt IV)/ Slow Start
EVs - 224HP, 180 Att, 52 Def, 52 SpDef
~Return
~Ice Punch
~Thunder Punch
~Substitute

SubStall until I get it together, with Ice Punches and Returns in between Subs.
Bring on the Magneton...

 

IC3R

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@ Regigigas

Pinsir @ Life Orb
Adamant
Mold Breaker
6 HP/252 Atk/252 Spe
-Swords Dance
-Close Combat
-Ice Punch
-Thunder Punch
Not a chance, bud. Should I Sub on the switch, it can take a CC since your other attacks don't break it, and can Return to take you down about 56%. Another CC will take me down to near-death, but not quite. Another Return, and you're done...

Next?
 

Terywj [태리]

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Kingdra @ Leftovers
Sniper / Modest
252 Sp Atk / 252 Spd / 6 HP
- Dragon Pulse
- Ice Beam
- Signal Beam
- Surf

Move along if this doesn't work, but if it does...hurry up and post that Empoleon. :p

-Ter
 

TehBo49

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I underestimated Substitute. Here's a better one.

@ Regigigas

Aggron @ Leftovers
Adamant
Rock Head
252 HP/6 Atk/252 Def
-Metal Burst
-Brick Break
-Avalanche
-Curse

Can survive many hits from your attacks even after Slow Start wears off. Brick Break always breaks your substitute. Curse makes me even stronger.

EDIT: Nevermind. @ Uxie

Shedinja @ Focus Sash
Adamant
Wonder Guard
252 Atk/6 Def/252 Spe
-X-Scissors
-Aerial Ace
-Shadow Claw
-Swords Dance

I know, kinda effortless but I needed to edit post quickly.
 

M.K

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@ Arcanine

Cloyster @ Leftovers
Modest / Shell Armor
252 Sp. Attack/252 Sp. Defense/4 Speed
-Surf
-Toxic Spikes
-Ice Beam
-Hidden Power Ground
 

Platypus

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Against the evidently Thunder-Fang-proof oyster:

Seaking w/Salac Berry
(+Speed -Def.)/Swift Swim
60 Atk./ 195 Sp. Atk./ 255 Sp. Def.
+ HP Fighting
+ Aqua Tail
+ Megahorn
+ Swagger
Chained Swaggers are, of course, lethal against a Special Sweeper such as yourself. Toxic is still a worry, though.
 

0RLY

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@ Froslass:

Marowak @ Thick Club
Rock Head/Adamant
252atk/252hp/4spe
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-Stone Edge

Is an explanation even needed?
 

IC3R

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@ Froslass:

Marowak @ Thick Club
Rock Head/Adamant
252atk/252hp/4spe
-Substitute
-Earthquake
-Fire Punch
-Stone Edge

Is an explanation even needed?
Flygon @ Expert Belt
Rash / Levitate
EVs - 196 Att, 216 SpAtt, 96 Spd
~Dragon Pulse
~Stone Edge
~Fire Blast
~Giga Drain

Use Stone Edge all you want, I'll just suck the health right back with Giga Drain--Sub or no Sub lol. Dragon Pulse for STAB, Stone Edge to covers good Fire-types and Mantine, Fire Blast for Steels, and Giga Drain just cause...


Bring it...*Uses Taunt*
 

IC3R

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I didn't want to do this, but, against the Dragon who Flies:

Luxray w/Choice Band
(+Speed -Sp. Atk.)/Rivalry
55 Atk./ 120 Def./ 80 Sp. Def. / 170 Speed
+ Ice Fang
If this isn't fast enough, I don't know what to do. Your fat isn't thick enough...
Well, it's not fast enough...not nearly...

However, that is unimportant. Regardless of Rivalry's effect you happen to OHKO me and survive 2 DPulses or Edges. The only way I'd win is if a got a crit on either one, but that's not very reliable--so your counter's good to go.

@ Luxray

Empoleon @ Shell Bell
Adamant / Torrent
EVs - 252 Att, 132 Def, 88 SpDef, 36 Spd
~Aqua Jet
~Earthquake
~Drill Peck
~Swords Dance

Owned in the face...
 

Pink Reaper

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Peh. Penguin.

Pelipper w/Leftovers
Modest/Keen Eye
255 Def./ 255 Sp. Atk.
+ Supersonic
+ HP Ground
+ Air Slash
+ Protect
This is most certainly not what I would have done en juego.. Supersonic makes life miserable after SD.
From now on, when someone posts SD Empoleon, im just doing this.


Ter, a while back someone pointed out that the rules specify that you have to state which move your using if your using a choice item. Because of this its meaningless to post more than one move.
 

IC3R

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The Donphan would be a more reliable counter than Pelipper, except for a couple of things:

1) Donphan has too many EVs
2) Donphan can't learn Bulk Up
----------------
And therefore,
Pelipper is the current Poke...


So, to counter the big-mouthed bird:

Grumpig @ Leftovers
Bold / Own Tempo
EVs - 252 HP, 252 Def, 4 SpAtt
~Shadow Ball
~HP Fighting
~Substitute
~Calm Mind

Pelipper is no match for this beastly UU...
 

Pink Reaper

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@Grumpig

Ledian@Leftovers
Adamant/Swarm
252Atk/252SpDef/4Spe
-Swords Dance
-Bug Bite
-Thunder Punch
-Ice Punch

After a Swords Dance Ledian reaches a positively monstrous 370 Atk, after which Bug Bite is a 2HKO. OM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM NOM.
 

M.K

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Onix @ Leftovers
Bold
252Def/252Att/4HP
Earthquake
Rockslide
Stealth Rock
Sandstorm
@Onix

Cacturne @ Leftovers
Modest/Sand Veil
252 Sp. Attack/252 Defense/4 Speed.
-Energy Ball
-Dark Pulse
-Hidden Power (Psychic)
-Sandstorm

Couldn't think of a 4th Move >_<
 

Terywj [태리]

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^You have to think of all four moves for a viable counter. You didn't. So I'll counter Onix.

Huntail @ Leftovers
Swift Swim / Adamant
252 Atk / 252 Spd / 6 Sp Def
~Crunch
~Aqua Ring
~Waterfall
~Ice Fang

-Ter
 

Terywj [태리]

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Mawile @ Leftovers
Hyper Cutter / Adamant
252 Atk / 212 Spd / 46 Sp Def
~Toxic
~Sucker Punch
~Thunder Fang
~Ice Fang

Resistant to all of your attacks.

-Ter
 

zrky

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Mawile @ Leftovers
Hyper Cutter / Adamant
252 Atk / 212 Spd / 46 Sp Def
~Toxic
~Sucker Punch
~Thunder Fang
~Ice Fang

Resistant to all of your attacks.

-Ter
Arcanine@scope lens
flash fire/adamant
-sunny day
-fire blast
-will-o-wisp
-fire fang
 

Platypus

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Against Poliwrath:

Rotom (C) w/Lum Berry
(+Def. -Sp. Def.)/Levitate
240 Def./ 48 Sp. Atk./ 222 Speed
+ Leaf Storm
+ Confuse Ray
+ Shadow Ball
+ HP Fire
Interestingly enough, Rotom (C) apparently has a Defense higher than Poliwrath's Attack. However, as its tier is, as of yet, undeclared, it's probably fair game.
 
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