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The Official "Should/Will Metaknight be banned?" Thread (LISTEN TO THE SBR PODCAST!)
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The Real Inferno
Smash Hero
I think it's interesting to see where the well known players who have voted in it are placing their opinion. You know, people who play at the pinnacle of the metagame already.
Dark Sonic
Smash Hero
^^They are on both sides of the poll, so...
What's your point?
What's your point?
That democracy solves nothing, apparently.
infomon
Smash Scientist
OK, that's perfectly fair in and of itself.
The Real Inferno
Smash Hero
Well, what -I- found interesting was to note that some top players who haven't had very vocal opinions one way or the other, still voted. It was interesting to see what side they support. What was of note to me, is that the big names on the not ban side, were already for the most part known to not support a ban, but there were several surprising names showing up on the ban list (some of my state's own top players have surprised me). There are many people I didn't expect to support a ban showing up on the ban list (Example: Edrees). This of course interests me as a TO and a player.
The cumulative data of this poll pales in comparison in importance to the specific data constituted by the important people who are voting. These are the people who actually hold a bit of sway and pull over TOs and the SBR and the tournament community as a whole. These are the people both sides should be keeping an eye on.
The cumulative data of this poll pales in comparison in importance to the specific data constituted by the important people who are voting. These are the people who actually hold a bit of sway and pull over TOs and the SBR and the tournament community as a whole. These are the people both sides should be keeping an eye on.
Indeed, I've been tracking the names for the same reason. Most interesting stuff.
Falconv1.0
Smash Master
That poll will prove and change nothing.
I would like to see MK banned just due to the fact that there is no reason to main anyone besides him, which is just stupid. There is nothing to get past with MK, cept for his ko power, but that's only if you ****ing suck.
No one has yet to give any real argument as to how removing him would make the game worse, just "GAIZ IT'S TOO SOON"
I would like to see MK banned just due to the fact that there is no reason to main anyone besides him, which is just stupid. There is nothing to get past with MK, cept for his ko power, but that's only if you ****ing suck.
No one has yet to give any real argument as to how removing him would make the game worse, just "GAIZ IT'S TOO SOON"
Ussi
Smash Legend
What I find amazing is how even some character mains are split in the middle. Seriously, Us Ikes are split on the issue. What about you other mains?
EDIT: 5 Ikes are for the vote, 3 are against it.
EDIT: 5 Ikes are for the vote, 3 are against it.
So far, I've talked to five Peaches about it.
Only one was strongly opposed. The others find fighting multiple MK's in a row frustrating and are greatly hoping for a ban.
Only one was strongly opposed. The others find fighting multiple MK's in a row frustrating and are greatly hoping for a ban.
popsofctown
Smash Champion
Devil's advocate here: the drawback to removing MK before waiting to see if he's a problem that solves himself is that 20-30% or so of players will have to change mains (or quit, and we lose community).
But for me..... like i yell after i trade a spike with an upair "Worth it!"
But for me..... like i yell after i trade a spike with an upair "Worth it!"
Master Knight DH
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I'm more neutral to banning Meta Knight now. I think the thing about Meta Knight is that when the opponent has a reasonable skill edge, Meta Knight's weight may very well come back to haunt him. Try to learn how his moves work, it served me well against a Meta Knight OL when I was using Pit, trying to make a point about his ^&$*%&@$# arrow spam only for a GD Wario idler to be around. >_>
Still, Meta Knight should be in a lot of trouble when his opponent is at only 7% and he himself is 70%+. He is supposed to be the lightweight sword user, after all. (And just for the record, I didn't get to use arrow spam this round. I did shoot a few arrows, but with Meta Knight being up in my face constantly, it would hardly qualify as arrow spam.) However, I'm for the priority decay I had mentioned before in a future installment if it helps ease people.
If anybody deserves a ban, it's probably G&W for things like his h4x low-kill Down B that kills below 50%. Only reason Meta Knight doesn't have to fear that is because he doesn't have projectiles to throw.
Still, Meta Knight should be in a lot of trouble when his opponent is at only 7% and he himself is 70%+. He is supposed to be the lightweight sword user, after all. (And just for the record, I didn't get to use arrow spam this round. I did shoot a few arrows, but with Meta Knight being up in my face constantly, it would hardly qualify as arrow spam.) However, I'm for the priority decay I had mentioned before in a future installment if it helps ease people.
If anybody deserves a ban, it's probably G&W for things like his h4x low-kill Down B that kills below 50%. Only reason Meta Knight doesn't have to fear that is because he doesn't have projectiles to throw.
Ryusuta
Smash Master
Oh, I know I didn't just see you dissin' The Bucket. You should show The Bucket its proper respect.
I wonder what would affect the metagame more. Brawl 2.0 or the Metaknight Ban....
I personally think in brawl 1.0 meta is too powerful. But in Brawl 2.0, I can see that people can use Melee AT's to overcome some weaknesses and meta would not be so overpowering. I'm a big fan of the 2.0 movment if you didn't know....
I personally think in brawl 1.0 meta is too powerful. But in Brawl 2.0, I can see that people can use Melee AT's to overcome some weaknesses and meta would not be so overpowering. I'm a big fan of the 2.0 movment if you didn't know....
Anth0ny
Smash Master
Here's the thing. If those players can't change characters and play almost as well/as well as they did while using MK, then did they really deserve how high they were placing in tournaments? I think one of the main reasons why people want MK banned is because not only does he counter the entire cast, but he is very, very easy to use.
i'm a bigger fan of the 'balance the characters and leave the game as is' movement.
And if he's allowed to dominate the tourney scene much longer, there could be even more players lost than that.
There are also people who are getting pissed off at this argument in general; if we wait, its also going to play a factor to people who don't want to play with MK.
@Kookie: You totally stole my random fixed quote. Not that it matters but...
@Kookie: You totally stole my random fixed quote. Not that it matters but...
Not entirely. You took my quote, and edited it.
If it makes you feel better . . .
you have credit for it now.
Overswarm
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Do it, you'll have a chance at the money
I hate that line of thinking, ban him lol.
But seriously, I'm perfectly content with Snake for now =D
I've considered it as well.
I'm actually thinking of going head on with Meta Knight with only a day or two under my belt. XD
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It wouldn't prove anything to all the naysayers. "It's not MK. You're just much better than them."
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Id like you to watch this vid.....Could this be.....the future of brawl?????
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVFFbHo2fc8&eurl=http://www.allisbrawl.com/video/video.aspx?id=6828
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nVFFbHo2fc8&eurl=http://www.allisbrawl.com/video/video.aspx?id=6828
Browny
Smash Hater
I lol every time someone says to "learn the matchup".
You should get out from under your rock.
Ulevo
Smash Master
Or you can actually learn how to play and train yourself to play the match up.
WakerofWinds
Smash Journeyman
If Azen was a playable character in Super Smash Boards Brawl, he would be banned. You can't learn the matchup, as the matchup goes as follows:Or you can actually learn how to play and train yourself to play the match up.
Azen wins.
Simple as that.
Calixto
Smash Apprentice
Problem is, you learn the match up, and you learn that it is horrifyingly easy for the MK to play a sloppy match and win, and for you to make one mistake and lose.
Horrifyingly, terribly, gut churningly, skin crawlingly easy for MK to beat your main and convert you to him. I'm fairly certain he is mentioned in the Necronomicon next to Cthulhu and Nyarlthotep.
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
I think this is how it should be decided if MK should be banned or not:
I say each state has 1 representative and then they each make a social group. The group for that state then decides (in a poll there) if that state should vote to ban him or not ban him, and then the representative will tell the greater community how their state voted, and then the majority of states win, a bit like the election.
What do you guys think of that?
I say each state has 1 representative and then they each make a social group. The group for that state then decides (in a poll there) if that state should vote to ban him or not ban him, and then the representative will tell the greater community how their state voted, and then the majority of states win, a bit like the election.
What do you guys think of that?
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
What do you mean? Expand on what you are saying, sorry i don't understand.
Seeing as how he used the number 50, I would assume he mean a US state by state kinda thing. lol
But that's just me.
¯\_S.(ツ).L.I.D._/¯
Smash Legend
Like a state. Like all 50 having a group and people from that group vote and then the state rep presents the majority for that state. Regions would have too many people.
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considering this thread frequently goes off topic...
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The Slayer
RAWR!
No, the future of Brawl is when it's going to be four Peach players. At that point of time, that's when I completely give up on ya.
Four Peaches would be pretty boss if you ask me.No, the future of Brawl is when it's going to be four Peach players. At that point of time, that's when I completely give up on ya.
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