The Official SBR-B Brawl Tier List v2.0

[Frown]

Captain Falcon is still awesome IMO not the worst char in Brawl

Well, Falcon kind of got screwed over by Brawl's physics. He was a combo king in Melee, but now that combos consist of chaingrabs and tilt locks, he doesn't really have anything except for some Sonic priority and a handful of awful hitboxes.

 

[d4bA]

I honestly think wario and mr.g&w should be switched. Especially if diddy kong made such a huge jump.

 

[Psymon]

Toon Link should be way higher than Donkey Kong. End of.

 

[PKNintendo]

The SBR determines tier places through collecting each member's idea of the list, and averaging the points given by each member. It's not done through some discussive collaboration which would generate reasons for Why X is in _ tier or anything like that. It's just an average of each member's view on the list.

Also, a lot of ppl seem to have the idea of Character X doesn't belong in Spot Z, they should be in Spot Y. Well, that's all good and all, until you realize that would change the positions of every character between Spots Y and Z. You would need justification for X being better/ worse than every character between Y and Z.

Saying Character X should be higher/lower because he/she has/doesn't have _______ doesn't mean anything. You'd need to show Character X is higher/lower than other characters. Tier lists are relative.

Really now?

Shouldn't they first be credible to have knowledge about EVERY character before doing this? I mean, what if the self made tier lists suck?

 

[Deleted member]

I like when da K.I.D. agrees with me because he is always very passionate about whatever he argues about.

But then I hate when you disagree >:| Grrr *angry face* Haha jk man.

SO chok are you still losing posts whenever you post?

Cuz thats gay.

 

[da K.I.D.]

well he has his max post count in his location so you can figure out how many posts he really has...

its almost 20000 now actually.

and I think its suits chok to have his posts set up that way

 

[Deleted member]

No cuz they also subracted a few thousand posts from him randomly. =(

 

[da K.I.D.]

ehh... its still funny as hell...

 

[ShadowLink84]

question about wario

as defensive as brawl can be, and as much brawl bashing that goes around everywhere, did it really take you 9 months to figure out that Wario can camp...?

seriously

it took people a year before they figured out that link's grounded up B in melee could be shielded and then smack Link while he continued his spinning animation.

People don't see obvious things because they are often focusing on everything else, don't be so quick to criticize.

 

[camzaman]

ShadowLink, you need to update your sig to have Obama in it now. =)

 

[ShadowLink84]

ShadowLink, you need to update your sig to have Obama in it now. =)

No because I find tihs mocks the former president in such a cool fashion.

 

[S_B]

No because I find tihs mocks the former president in such a cool fashion.

hahah! Awesome sig!

And if doesn't MK deserve a ban if he's a perfect 15?

 

[da K.I.D.]

unfortunately no.

if h pulled more than 15 on a 15 points scale then maybe.

 

[Deathwish238]

SOMEBODY has to be top tier i really think its pretty bad if you ban a character =/ in a way i feel sorry for the people who truly wanted to main metaknight from the beginning becuz they were fans of the CHARACTER. even tho i think there weren't many since he's not such a iconic video game figure.

 

[pizzapie7]

How is Falcon worse then Ganondorf?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Falcon has worse match ups. Ganon has a lot of things CF doesn't have like better killing power/knockback, and priority.

 

[Ich Bin Awesome]

Only thing falcon has over ganon is speed and large amounts of testosterone.

 

[philbobjoe]

hahah! Awesome sig!

And if doesn't MK deserve a ban if he's a perfect 15?

No, 15/15 just means they agreed that he is the best character.

 

[da K.I.D.]

the only reason that ganon is better than CF is cause he has a techchase command throw (move that acts as a throw but doesnt use the z button) and command throws are beast in this game.

bite
inhale
flamechoke

 

[Kitamerby]

the only reason that ganon is better than CF is cause he has a techchase command throw (move that acts as a throw but doesnt use the z button) and command throws are beast in this game.

bite
inhale
flamechoke

Falcon Dive



Ganon's better because he actually has combos and kill moves.

 

[kook_U]

i feel like Falco should be in the same tier list as snake, thats my only problem with this list............
wow fox fell 6 spots :O thats alittle drastic

 

[Judge Judy]

wow fox fell 6 spots :O thats alittle drastic

Not sure if he needed to fall that much but he does have several horrific match-ups; Fox has ok match-ups in general, but there are a few characters that just wipe the floor with him...Pikachu lol.

 

[aeghrur]

Also, shiek, lol.
that's like 2 80:20 match ups right there. lol.

 

[Kinzer]

There were 4 hard Fox counters AFAIK... though I forgot one, the worse ones are Pikachu, Sheik, and Zero Suit samus.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Why's it called SS tier? Shouldn't it be like S+ or something like that?

 

[Napilopez]

Why's it called SS tier? Shouldn't it be like S+ or something like that?

Your post count....

ITS OVER 9000!

*cough*

Because everyone is getting aboard the SS Metaknight.

 

[randomness_FTW!]

Because everyone is getting aboard the SS Metaknight.

Lol, thats true, I just started using him a few days ago

 

[DarkPikmin]

Why's it called SS tier? Shouldn't it be like S+ or something like that?

It doesn't matter what its called you should care about how they're divided

 

[RDK]

Holy mother of god, is that PsychoIncarnate?

 

[DarkVision]

Holy mother of god, is that PsychoIncarnate?

Well, it's been a while since I've seen PsychoIncarnate

 

[SCOTU]

There were 4 hard Fox counters AFAIK... though I forgot one, the worse ones are Pikachu, Sheik, and Zero Suit samus.

Sheik and Pikachu **** the hell outta fox to a pretty unwinnable level. MK, ZSS are also hard counters, but not as much. He also has Marth and ICs as rough matchups. That's a really bad set of matchups to have, even if he goes close with DDD, snake, rob, DK, and falco (for varying degrees of "going close")

 

[Vorguen]

Fox is not a bad character, he just has some matchups that make him get annihilated completely that maining him would be pretty worthless. However if you are good at Fox and are going up against a Snake main bringing him out would do no harm. He has good matchups with top characters.

 

[Deathcarter]

Sheik and Pikachu **** the hell outta fox to a pretty unwinnable level. MK, ZSS are also hard counters, but not as much. He also has Marth and ICs as rough matchups. That's a really bad set of matchups to have, even if he goes close with DDD, snake, rob, DK, and falco (for varying degrees of "going close")

What sucks about Fox is that he just has too many stupid matchups, more than any of the low tier characters aside from maybe Samus and Lucas. On paper, he is just too good to be put in E tier; when you have a god move such as Fox's Usmash, Ike's jab, (insert random move of the top tiers) as well as other great properties, you deserve to be ahead of your pack (tier). He'd be D if he did not get screwed over by the physics.

 

[PKNintendo]

What sucks about Fox is that he just has too many stupid matchups, more than any of the low tier characters aside from maybe Samus and Lucas. On paper, he is just too good to be put in E tier; when you have a god move such as Fox's Usmash, Ike's jab, (insert random move of the top tiers) as well as other great properties, you deserve to be ahead of your pack (tier). He'd be D if he did not get screwed over by the physics.

His Upsmash is not godly.

 

[Deleted member]

Fox is actually an amazing secondary to have. He pretty much *****, he just has ******** matchups vs a few people =(

Foward air is too ****ing good.

 

[brinboy789]

His Upsmash is not godly.

do you know HOW early it kills \? it comes out decently fast too...

 

[CrAzYdRuNk]

Decently fast? His Usmash comes out insanely fast for how strong it is. And if your going to talk about his Usmash being godly, his Dair is amazing too.

 

[Wave⁂]

Fox is actually an amazing secondary to have. He pretty much *****, he just has ******** matchups vs a few people =(

This is the case with many characters. Why Fox? Why choose him over all the other recommended back-up characters?

 

[killori]

Darn. Lucario tie with olimar.

 

[Vorguen]

This is the case with many characters. Why Fox? Why choose him over all the other recommended back-up characters?

Why not? Most fight with who they like anyway. That's why it's a secondary, you can main your best tourney character and leave your secondary for the easier fights.