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I agree. I'm sure in the highest level of competitive play, Ganondorf beats out Captain Falcon, but on my level (and most of the competitive scene's level) Falcon can surely beat the bottom tier characters (maybe some of the lows as well)
That's... interesting.
It's messed up!
What in the world makes you think Bowser is low tier? Honestly I don't see why Ike belongs anywhere but low tier anyways, his game is so simple and predictable. He is ***** by spot dodge, shield grab and pressure because he only has two quick moves, those being his jabs and his bair(and maybe uair but a miss with that will get him a smashing anyway). All of his other attacks will have him struck and interrupted before he lands them, so he is incredibly easy to swarm if you look out for that jab and even easier if you keep him in the air, plus his recovery is garbage. Also, Jigglypuff above Link is a joke.Its pretty messed up. What is Allisbrawl, though?
And honestly, that list only has six or seven really strange placements (DK, ICs, Luigi, Ness, Peach, Zero Suit Samus, and Falco). The rest is *shrug*. I mean, yeah, the ordering is weird, but some of it is close anyway, and they do have segments in common with the SBR list. Obviously inferior (seriously, DK above Marth, Diddy, ROB, and Lucario?), but it wouldn't give people really totally wrong ideas about most of the characters, and only Luigi, Ness, and Peach are strongly out of tier (though Bowser and Fox are put at the bottom of Mid rather than the top of Low, where they probably belong). I guess you could argue Jiggs is out of tier at bottom of Low but honsetly, I think the real problem with Jigglypuff is "Why would I play her when I can play Kirby" rather than her being absolutely terrible (just rather terrible). Putting her above Link is, I think, excusable, though I cannot see putting Ganondorf above Link - yeah he's awful but so is Ganon.
If you look at the SBR tier list, you see a great deal of continuity between Falco (13.03, the third best character) and Ike (5.91, the 12th worst in the game). None of the jumps are by all that much, and the only REALLY big drop is between ICs and Zero Suit Samus (a drop of .71), the next largest is .6 (Olimar to Pikachu), and then the rest are in the .5 or even .4 range (Diddy -> Wario, Wolf-> Luigi). So the reality is, I think, that some of the divisions are a bit arbitrary as there is no real clear line where characters are bad, and the biggest gap is between ICs and Zamus, which is probably the drop from high tier to mid tier. If you were to cut it up into Top/High/Mid/Low/Bottom, you'd have Falco-ICs in high, and Zamus-Ike in mid, with Mario-Yoshi low and Link-CF bottom. So really, this list isn't really any worse than the lists the Sonic mains propose
What did Inui do?
That, a mediocre recovery and no safe kill moves. Some other things as well, but i dunno.
sorry it took so long for me to post. lol. thanks i understand now.
yea. younglink is number 17 too.
Allisbrawl XD
That's t0mmy's personal project at making a tier list.
That is a very strange tier list.
tell me about it. 3 tiers? lol.
low tier tournaments would get boring, fast...thatAiBsitethingy said:
no, ganondorf will be bottom tier. Captain falcon will rise. EVERYONE HAS TO MAIN FALCON!
I remember t0mmy's list, it's actually ok (considering it only takes from West Coast stuff and all that jazz). There are parts I certainly don't agree with, but it was good to see while the SWF tier list was being made.
uh...
Yeah... even though I feel bad for making fun of them... I just couldn't hold back lawl when I saw Falco so low... especially under R.O.B.
Mindgames mean nothing. Tier Lists solely reflect how the character should do on paper, disregarding many of the other variables that can't be wuantified or controlled, i.e. mindgames and player skill.
No. Just no. This is entirely incorrect.
This isn't what a tier list is. A tier list is not about the popularity of characters but their effectiveness. A very effective but very difficult to learn character may be very high on a tier list, but that doesn't mean that they are particularly common to face - simply that someone who can play the character has a character advantage over a lot of the field.
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