The Official SBR-B Brawl Tier List v2.0

[Rinku リンク]

MK needs to be nerfed.

 

[Kage Me]

Cmon guys, metaknight isn't that bad. I think he should at least be mid tier. hes got a sword

Sigged for reasons beyond obvious.

On another note, Link would like to have a word with the SBR.

 

[Flayl]

So how many people took Ranor seriously?

 

[kr3wman]

on Another Note, Link Would Like To Have A Word With The Sbr.

What would he say?

SCRAAAAAAAAAAHH?

 

[Ranor469]

Probably something to do with having a sword and deserving to be mid tier... rofl

 

[Collective of Bears]

He has BOMBZ!!!11!!1one!!!!

 

[MysticKenji]

Use bombs wisely!

 

[kingcobra9]

meta knight will be seriously nerfed in the next game his smash will have seriously more lag and his attacks will be practically useless. unless sakuri has a thing for mk in which case he will be almost identical

 

[_Phloat_]

meta knight will be seriously nerfed in the next game his smash will have seriously more lag and his attacks will be practically useless. unless sakuri has a thing for mk in which case he will be almost identical

And there we have it fellers.

Go home now boys.

 

[:mad:]

falcon will be seriously nerfed in the next game his attacks will have seriously more lag and his knee will be practically useless. unless sakuri has a thing for mk in which case he will be almost identical

I changed a few key words and made it true.
This was some time in October of '07.

 

[Ranor469]

the next game will be exactly like brawl except falcon will be god and no one will complain

 

[Alus]

the next game will be exactly like brawl except falcon will be god and no one will complain

This might be true...

 

[Hobobloke]

You make it sound like falcon isn't a god now.

 

[Frown]

To Smashboards he practically is.

 

[MysticKenji]

 

[Xebenkeck]

Use bombs wisely!

Did anyone else catch this joke

 

[Collective of Bears]

Did anyone else catch this joke

Let's discuss Bowser.

 

[_Phloat_]

Bowser's grab releases are quite good.

 

[Flayl]

Getting hit after doing an FTilt is pure BS. God DK's is so much better and they're to busy BAir'ing to use it.

 

[Deathcarter]

I would like to change the discussion towards this question: What characters in High tier can make it into Top tier? I find it amazing that Lain was able to knock ****ing M2K into losers at Apex. Hell Lain actually placed third at Apex. Do you guys beleive that the Ice Climbers actually have the potential to move into Top tier?

Also consider Pikachu. Pikachu does well against the top tiers and supposedly does not have any crap matchups. Pikachu at least will be able to make it to the top of high tier, considering how much Anther can clean house with him as well as how good his moveset is. But do y'all beleive he can make the jump into Top tier as well?

 

[TP]

I would like to change the discussion towards this question: What characters in High tier can make it into Top tier? I find it amazing that Lain was able to knock ****ing M2K into losers at Apex. Hell Lain actually placed third at Apex. Do you guys beleive that the Ice Climbers actually have the potential to move into Top tier?

Also consider Pikachu. Pikachu does well against the top tiers and supposedly does not have any crap matchups. Pikachu at least will be able to make it to the top of high tier, considering how much Anther can clean house with him as well as how good his moveset is. But do y'all beleive he can make the jump into Top tier as well?

No and no. Since Lain is the best ICs, neither Dojo or M2K had experience vs the very best the ICs had to offer. What Lain did was still ****ing amazing, though. Similarly, most people don't have the Pika experience it takes to handle Anther since he is clearly the best Pika. However, I do expect both characters to rise on the tier list... just not reach top, that's all.

 

[philbobjoe]

Mew2king doesn't have Ice climbers experience? You play against them the same as in Melee, separate them, gimp nana, and don't get grabbed. And Mew2king played against Chudat in Melee

 

[Scott!]

I could see Pikachu going into the middle of the next tier, and the ICs being top of C, maybe bottom of B. I don't think either of them can pass Wario or above, but below that, I could see it, depending on how things continue. Granted, that would be a large jump for either of them, relatively speaking.

 

[_Phloat_]

Possible infinite on MK is kinda cool with bowser... wait and see if it is frame by frame inescapable, and if it is humanly possible...

 

[mythmonster2]

Uh, whoa. What's going on? It says this is pg 341, but there are supposed to be 346 pages, but 342-246 just go to this page with Phloat's comment on top.

 

[Lawz.]

Mew2king doesn't have Ice climbers experience? You play against them the same as in Melee, separate them, gimp nana, and don't get grabbed. And Mew2king played against Chudat in Melee

it's kinda hard to face Ice Climbers when playing someone as good as Lain is, especially since one grab basically can mean death not to mention he was constantly creating a wall of blizzards to keep M2K away.

 

[Scott!]

Uh, whoa. What's going on? It says this is pg 341, but there are supposed to be 346 pages, but 342-246 just go to this page with Phloat's comment on top.

It's because a bunch of spam posts were deleted by mods. Apparently, the way things are set up in the basic structure of the thread and the way it's saved, those empty pages aren't deleted. I do wonder whether they're getting filled up, or whether the thread still counts the deleted posts as part of its length and will keep a few pages of emptiness at the end.

 

[Blind Fremen]

Anybody know if Zero Suit Samus is moving up?

 

[Frown]

Anybody know if Zero Suit Samus is moving up?

Nobody knows. But her recent tournament results are somewhat lower than they used to be.

 

[gm jack]

Anyone have any idea how Bowser is going to do, seeing as he now has an infinite on a fair few people, including MK?

 

[Flayl]

It's not an infinite, and it's harder to pull off than his dash grab CG.

 

[SSJ5Goku8932]

I have to say that Ness and Lucas should deserve higher.

Their grab releases are not much of a big deal (unless Marth is invloved) Since they are like Wario and can avoid grabs. Also, they are underrated ALOT.

 

[Morrigan]

I have to say that Ness and Lucas should deserve higher.

Their grab releases are not much of a big deal (unless Marth is invloved) Since they are like Wario and can avoid grabs. Also, they are underrated ALOT.

That has been probably said more than a hundred times.

 

[:mad:]

I have to say that Ness and Lucas should deserve higher.

Their grab releases are not much of a big deal (unless Marth is invloved) Since they are like Wario and can avoid grabs. Also, they are underrated ALOT.

Not true in the least. It's not that they're bad, everyone else is just so much better. Grab releases don't affect them so much as it is recovery, relative weight vs. kill power, and some tactic that can rack up damage fast, like a chaingrab.

 

[gm jack]

It's not an infinite, and it's harder to pull off than his dash grab CG.

People have checked, and if done right, it is impossible for MK to air break or to do anything before the pivot grab. Hard, but not impossible. Considering ti was found very recently, it would not be surprising if Bowser becomes the closest thing to a counter MK has, especially as Bowser went close to even before hand.

 

[Kinzer]

^^

I support that guy's post (at least concerning Ness, I'm still unsure of Lucas, but nobody plays him in Vegas that I'm aware of so meh... :/)

Concerning Zero Suit... she's good, but compared to the characters in her tier... will she really move up or just in the same place?

I know she can't move down unless some mid tier character started getting really good.

And as for Bowser... I'm going to wait a little bit more.

Edit: Holy @#$% 3 people posting before me, this is madness!

 

[:mad:]

@Kinzer - I know! We got ninja'd.

 

[Flayl]

People have checked, and if done right, it is impossible for MK to air break or to do anything before the pivot grab.

First off, I'm a Bowser main. Second, whether or not MK jump breaks is decided BEFORE Bowser can pivot grab him. Third, it's not humanly possible to estimate when MK will break out at higher %s, thus the best strategy is to continously pummel him, meaning MK can break out in between pummel hit stun.

I should add that on Final Destination this could may very well lead to a 0-death, since escaping in between pummeling is uncommon and Bowser can catch MK if he jump breaks. It needs lots of practice not to mention awesome reflexes.

Just don't expect anything amazing to happen on any other stage.

 

[ShadowLink84]

Possible infinite on MK is kinda cool with bowser... wait and see if it is frame by frame inescapable, and if it is humanly possible...

It needs to be a ground release. It also requires you to actually eta grab.
big friggin deal Bowser has an infinite on MK. I dont see MK being grabbed anytime soon, otherwise, Ice climbers would be the best character in the game.

 

[pastaboy]

lolwut ic grab range is **** compared to bowsers