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The Official Ohio Brawl Power Rankings (11/25/12: NEW RANKINGS UPDATED!)

Chronodiver Lokii

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Shugo cheats IMO
Obviously seducing all the panelists

(or he's just wrecking everyone in the freakin state. That too)

XD <3

:phone:
 

Kel

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OOC, what tournies did Shugo go to this season? The only two I remember are RAGE and Retribution.
Regardless, it doesn't matter if he only went to one. He is our best player, hands down. If he is not the best then our rankings are shot any way.
 

clowsui

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something that might explain carls/mx is that Ranbat results were not included as anything but a tiebreaker.

shugo went to get low, rage, ret and ps4. that's enough for his activity. ps4 isn't w/in the period technically but it fell into the period between the two ranking seasons. since we didn't count it for the last one we count it for this one, bam
 

Carls493

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I think Shugo & Kel are the only ones out of the whole list, including the HMs, that I haven't faced yet.

If I did face Kel before, then I can't remember when.
 

Kel

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calm down. I was just curious.

:phone:
You must rethink your internal perception of my smashworld voice. Think of that post as if I was WTP petting a kitten in Mrs. Umbridges office from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Then, imagine I took a medium sized melatonin pill 45 minutes prior to writing that while wearing a warm and fuzzy robe.

Then also consider that I have no reason to yell at you for not knowing my personal view of how power rankings should be done.
 

Beegs

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You must rethink your internal perception of my smashworld voice. Think of that post as if I was WTP petting a kitten in Mrs. Umbridges office from Harry Potter and the Order of the Phoenix. Then, imagine I took a medium sized melatonin pill 45 minutes prior to writing that while wearing a warm and fuzzy robe.

Then also consider that I have no reason to yell at you for not knowing my personal view of how power rankings should be done.
Ya know, that was a very good description of how you talk in person too. Well done.
 

Juushichi

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Haha. Nice.

Though, I would like to to why KB is over MX and Carls, a bit more in depth myself actually.

I saw 6-8 pretty obviously as Carls > MX > KB, to be quite honest.
 

Kel

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Just to show you all in good faith that we did discuss this issue, I will post a couple of my supar secrat OHPRBR posts. I have deleted other posts to protect the innocent. Except Chi. Chi is a communist.
 

SoulPech

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I was actually gonna say the same thing about Carls and MX should be above Sneaky and KB. IMO, I thought Retribution was gonna seal the deal, but then again I don't have the data.

Also Kel, I had a crappy day at work so it was definitely a misinterpretation on my part
 

clowsui

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as usual I might be at fault here LOL i had a very strong feeling that the data would change my mind about the ordering of carls/mx/kb but i was too lazy to get it
 

Roller

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Well one of the blanked out posts was clearly from KB, as Kel's second post explicitly states it is (at least in part) a response to him. And seeing as from this we can reasonably infer that KB himself was one of the chief dissenters among the panel in regards to him being below the other players in question... Honestly, that just makes KB look less innocent. lol
 

Eddie G

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I didn't even say anything incriminating or biased in that blanked out post anyway lol. I merely asked Kel what MX's wins/losses were and why he believed MX should be placed higher than he was; Kel respectfully blanked out the rest of the posts for the sake of confidentiality which I appreciate. I also added that I had absolutely no issue with switching MX (or anyone for that matter) accordingly if his accompishments did in fact eclipse those of the people above him. It was also discussed that those Sunday ranbats (where no money was played for/distributed, and where a good chunk of their activity took place) counted as tiebreakers at the very most, not something that is on par with full-blown tournament activity.

The assumptions need to simmer down, now.
 

Roller

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I was merely commenting on the obvious inferences which can be made from Kel's post.


I would however like to see the credential-based justifications for each ranked player though, like what Florida does.

It would clear up some issues, and if the rankings are in fact justified (which I'm assuming is the case, as there was ~2 months of deliberation; which should have entailed enough due-diligence to ensure accuracy) it would end the nagging from dissenters.

I will also be proposing this type of explanation for the next MI PR, as we constantly get similar feedback despite results supporting our ordering of players.

I know a pr panel can be made out to be a bunch of self-assuring ******s, it happens all the time in virtually every state. This might help.
 

MX778

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I don't think I went to too many of the ranbats, but I did go to things such as OS's Monthly. At this tourney, I did beat Carls, Krystedez, XeroXen, Xisin (x2), Ladiesblade, and Tako. Pretty much anyone that wasn't Kel at that tourney. lol

At Rage, I beat everyone in my pool. (Kel, Gio, Space Thing, Drdn, and KingYoshi I believe)

Then uhhh, there was that IN tourney. I beat Tako and Ladiesblades again. I even took a set off of Count in GF's.

That's all I can remember for nowww.
 

sneakytako

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I'll throw you a bone KB.

The final list most closely matches my list. G@Me. And tell me everyone, why do you think Carls/MX should rise?

And also MX I'm 90% sure you lost to krystydez, at least in the final pool at OS's tourny.
 

MX778

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Yeah in the final pool, Krystedez did get me back. Hence, there was no "x2" next to his name like there was with Xisin.
 

sneakytako

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Then you won a set where top two make it out into another pool, and it was 1st and 2nd against Krysty. That means that game you won made litterly 0 impact on the tourny, which makes it the equivalent of a friendly. I mean, God Kais why wouldn't Krysty sandbag in that situation?
 

sneakytako

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Who's trolling?

Why shouldn't Krysty sandbag when he knows he has to play everyone in the final pool regardless of the outcome? Also God Kais are notorious for sanbagging. I brought this issue up when the tournament was announced that the #1/#2 match in 2nd round pools has no meaning. I have always been under the impression that the results of that match should be dismissed.
 

Eddie G

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Just throwing it out there, this is my record (to my recollection, because even a couple panelists thought I was inactive before I clarified lol).

Season Notable Wins
Tech Chase (Sexy Black *****) (2-0 at RAGE)
Sneakytako (Makes More Money Than You) (#5) (2-1 at RAGE)
Mister Eric (Kentucky Fried ROB) (2-0 at RAGE)
Blue Rogue (That White Guy) (former #3, current #4) (2-0 in winners at a local, I lost 1-3 in losers finals at the same local)

Season Notable Losses
AlphaZealot (That Other White Guy) (former #4) (1-2 at RAGE)
Sparta Kick (Canadian Carnivore) (0-2 at RAGE, 0-2 at Get Low's)
Zinoto (Where's Waldo: Bruthas With A Scarf Edition) (0-2 in pools at RAGE)
WTP (The Jew Who Knew) (1-2 or 0-2, pretty sure it was the latter, at Get Low's *broke up with girlfriend johns* LOL jk Kevin is legit)
Fizzle (James Harden) (current #3) (1-3 in winners finals at a local)
 

MX778

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Could he have sandbagged? He very well could have, I agree.

But he didn't. I could tell because he was getting sliiiightly frustrated when we played.


Whether it was a pool or not, it was a serious tournament set to try to make it to the $$$ placings. If not that, then as close as you can get to it. It doesn't really matter how the tourney was oriented. A tourney is a tourney.

edit: I do understand what you're saying, but under a tournament setting and given the fact Krys was nowhere close to sandbagging, that victory was legitimate.
 

sneakytako

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Honestly whether or not he was sandbagging is irrelevant. The fact that the set was irrelevant to any results of the tournament before the outcome was decided makes it equivalent to a friendly in my mind. If both players know that the match makes no difference in the next pool, then it's not even a tournament match.
 

MX778

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If I recall correctly, the win:loss ratio had something to contribute by time the last pool had finished.

Sure, 1 measily win probably wouldn't count for too much as a comparison to the rest of the tourney. But it definitely counted for something.
 

Juushichi

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So, the best win is BR (1-1 season record, I guess?) and the worst loss there is (unranked, but good) WTP (0-1). Not sure if Tech or Eric is a better win, but both of them seem like relatively average wins for PR.

How does that compare to Carls/MX, though? (Also are these all bracket wins or some of them pools?)
 

Zinoto

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Even still, the wins MX listed are still better than KBs. Can you honestly say that Kel, Kryz, hadesblade, and count aren't better than that? You guys also need to define what is pr eligible beforehand. In my mind that win on kryz is completely legit. Who's to say i didn't sandbag against reflex? Its still a match that should count. Also a won on kel is better than anything kb listed anyways.

Also, I'm starting to see what you mean by this notable loss thing now Roller lol.
 

Juushichi

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I think it's also important to note the season records vs the people you beat, much like Florida's done it, Zino.

I would also argue that XeroXen is a similar, if not better win than Mister Eric since I believe/think he generally outplaces Eric at tournaments they're both at, anyway.
 
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