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sneakytako

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Quit hating WTP I just want info.

Maybe I'm interested in introducing MK legal in my own region. You don't know.

LEGIT: I remember playing friendlies with you, thanks for the input. Do you think the rest of muskegon share a similiar opinion?
 

Eddie G

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Tako, focus on Ohio. Stop being a douche and trying to get MI to cater to you because we have better tournaments.
WTP, seriously, you're a chill dude in person but you need to stop being such a pessimistic, buzz killing, know-it-all, Devil's Advocate, Debbie-mother****ing-Downer on the boards. It's obvious from Tako's post that he is simply trying to seek information. You just like to see the worst or an ulterior motive in everything. It's fine on occasion, but within the past week alone I've seen multiple instances of it.

How about you let Tech and Roller do the talking if you feel one of those Seinfeld urges coming on, eh?

:phone:
 

sneakytako

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To explain I'm interested in how MI managed to aquire more people to the MI smash community.

Chi is trying real hard to aquire a new generation of high schoolers in the Cinci area. Before the community was pretty unified in MK ban before Apex, but now with the dissolution of Unity I don't know anymore. I wouldn't want MK ban be a deterent to new players for my own region, which is why I'm looking for information.
 

What's The Point

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You don't know.
I'm pretty sure I do.

You just like to see the worst or an ulterior motive in everything. It's fine on occasion, but within the past week I've seen multiple instances of it.
Tako has spent the past week trying to get MI to ban MK. Now he's trying to bypass the oldies and get the masses on his side.

But AA people in general are against banning MK (Except Tutu) because they don't see a reason too. EL people are all against the ban with a couple using MK. Ori has Japan fever. Most of SE MI is against the ban for various reasons. For the most part the competitive people are against the ban because they are competitive and the rest don't really care. I really can't think of anyone but Tutu and myself that is for banning MK and that's solely because we don't like playing against MK. MI people in general attend a tournament regardless of ban.

New people will be unfamiliar with the idea of banning a character. They will likely be inclined to be anti-ban.

Also AiB.
 

Eddie G

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Cite even a small portion of his post that would even begin to prove what you're speculating about deliberately trying to bypass the oldies. If you can't...then step off with the accusations and accept your speculation for what it is at face value.

:phone:
 

sneakytako

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It's OK KB I'll just troll him IRL.

Hey WTP wanna team for Snooping?

Also I've already suceeded in implanting MK ban tournies in MI, that mission was over 2 weeks ago. But I'm down to discuss it any time :D.
 

Eddie G

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I'd consider that a loaded question if WTP/Old Michigan had not already made their stance clear. Asking New MI a question like that in this case could be for the sake of comparing perspectives which, last I checked, doesn't necessarily prove your point.

:phone:
 

What's The Point

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Hey WTP wanna team for Snooping?
You crazy dog, it ain't last minute.

Oh and I'm teaming with Ally.

Also I've already suceeded in implanting MK ban tournies in MI, that mission was over 2 weeks ago. But I'm down to discuss it any time :D.
Probably not going to happen. To clarify, anything worth travelling to is already planned as being MK legal, and everything else I know of is already MK legal.

doesn't necessarily prove your point.
The only way the point you are talking about could be proven is if Tako confirmed it since it's regarding his motives, or Professor X.
 

sneakytako

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It's ok, I knew 2 weeks ago that I would make enemies in MI.

But like I've been saying having all mk legal tournaments makes it tough to get support down here. Host MK ban tournys yada yada yada.

But what I'm interested now is three things:

1.) How does the MK ban fit overall with MI?

2.) How did MI get an influx of new players? Why have more people in MI been inclined to go to tournaments?

3.) How do those new players feel about MK legal/ban tournies?

I'd rather hear from them directly WTP, but I can always ask them at tournament since you want to **** block me online.

But seriously I could see this as people seeing Apex videos and getting hyped. I could also see this as a few larger groups of smashers deciding to enter tournaments at the same time MK ban started to pick up in MI. Or it could be both. That's what I really want to know. Like I've said I have a suspicion about the correlation between the timing of MK ban in MI and the influx of new players.

Edit: Although honestly you might have already answer my question. If new players are unfamiliar with how they stand with MK ban then the advent of MK legal probably didn't impact their start of attendance. That doesn't mean I'm telling you to fix what ain't broke, at least in this instance.

Thanks.
 

zyth

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for the most part, new ppl came to tournies because of advertising i believe. one guy told 10 ppl and 2 decided to show up, another guy told 5 and 1 showed up, etc. it didnt really matter too much if MK was banned or not, because for new players that didnt follow the scene they werent too aware of how gay MK can really be until they went to an MK legal tourny. when the ban happened MI still had about half or so MK legal events over the previous PR season so just try a mix taco
 

What's The Point

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But like I've been saying having all mk legal tournaments makes it tough to get support down here. Host MK ban tournys yada yada yada.
As a note this is my issue. I see you trying to get MI to change for Ohio but I don't see you trying to get Ohio to change for MI. Where are MI's MK legal tournaments in Ohio?

Edit - I suppose the issue is that Ohio has no tournaments. I see one listed. Though it's actually in KY and it's MK legal.

I'd rather hear from them directly WTP, but I can always ask them at tournament since you want to **** block me online.
They can still post. Though for the most part they use AiB or nothing (Or super lurkers).
 

Zinoto

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I personally prefer MK-legal events. At one of the earlier MK-banned events (PS2 I believe), a lot of MI players had to switch to secondaries that they were moreorless uncomfortable with while everyone else was able to use their main. I play to have fun and play good players, and giving them a handicap isn't my idea of fun. MK is a tough MU for pretty much the entire cast, but it's one of my favorites because it forces you to play close to perfect. It really test your skills as a player, which is why I am against banning him. Moreover, nationals and larger-scaled events are MK legal. Turning our tournaments into MK banned events would only cripple us for when we play good players.

An example of this: MJG came down for PS3 and I hadn't played a MK in so long that I completely forgot how to play one. He ***** me in friendlies. Although MJG is a much better player than me, the fact that we've had MK banned events prior to me playing him really crippled me and it showed. I still go to both events, but some of the better players I've always wanted to play (MJG, Kain, Meek, M2K, ADHD, Lain, etc.) may be deterred by MK banned events. The japanese won't come to MK banned events (not saying we would get any japanese players), but if MI were to go to another nationall (like SKTAR), MK would likely be legal and we would be disadvantaged.

I'd rather our scene just learn the MU than just ban him.
 

Roller

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If he MMd you and won it would be considered a "good win" because your on an OoS PR
Actually, it wouldn't. Wouldn't count for much anyway. WTP beat her and we didn't even bother to mention it in our PR discussions. You need better wins than Kass to get PR'd nowadays.
Before the community was pretty unified in MK ban before Apex
No they weren't. The entire west coast stayed loyal to mk legal, as did part of canada, as did plenty of other places, we were pretty damn divided, imo.
It's ok, I knew 2 weeks ago that I would make enemies in MI.
Just so you know, MI likes you as a person. We all enjoy having you around, and that includes WTP. We disagree with your stance on this issue, and will debate it, but please don't mistake that as us being your enemies in anything outside of this debate.

As far as I know, nobody in MI would be anything less than happy to see you at an event. :reverse:
An example of this: MJG came down for PS3 and I hadn't played a MK in so long that I completely forgot how to play one. He ***** me in friendlies. Although MJG is a much better player than me, the fact that we've had MK banned events prior to me playing him really crippled me and it showed. I still go to both events, but some of the better players I've always wanted to play (MJG, Kain, Meek, M2K, ADHD, Lain, etc.) may be deterred by MK banned events. The japanese won't come to MK banned events (not saying we would get any japanese players), but if MI were to go to another nationall (like SKTAR), MK would likely be legal and we would be disadvantaged.

I'd rather our scene just learn the MU than just ban him.
I've also gotten worse vs mk since WTP and Gio had been trying out all their other characters and not using him on me much at all for months. It's annoying that I feel like I'm much better now than I was in say November, yet I feel worse vs mk.



To be clear, I am however still in favor of banning :peach:, once people realize how broken she is and begin the movement.
 

clowsui

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YoOOOOOOoOOoo lmao

Also I have severe Asian parents johns. ;; otherwise my networking powers would extend hardbody to both Xavier and UC. Right now I have no idea how I'd even begin to start a scene at my own university because I live off campus (not to mention it'd be fairly difficult seeing as we don't even have a gaming club @ Xavier lol). As for UC my only decent networking resource (Daycia) and I are on horrible terms (she is not that great w the community atm either haha) so yeah
 

Roller

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I don't think you have any idea how good you have it as peach. Being able to just float over bananas and grabs all day...


Meanwhile, if the invalid behind me trips within range of a banana throw, well I might as well say good by to her, and by extension, my stock.
 

Hot_ArmS

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I don't think you have any idea how good you have it as IC's, being able to just get one grab and its all over...

Meanwhile, if I mess up once and get within range of your grab, well I might as well say goodbye to my stock
 
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I agree with Zinoto entirely.


MFW Gio, Rabbi and myself have been saying things similar to what Zinoto said, but you continued to ignore us and make MK banned tournaments.

You're all nincompoops, but at least my ***** MK is legal again. :)
 

Kel

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Real talk though, when I'm in Detroit tomorrow I'm going to destroy a bowl of ramen at Matsuchan.

This is one thing Detroit does right. I hear it's the best ramen in the Western world.
 
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