The Official Master Hand Guide

[Ayatsuri_Rinku]

i just tried method 2 and my game froze...nothing happened ;(

 

[Grim Tuesday]

i just tried method 2 and my game froze...nothing happened ;(

If you want to say something else in a thread, press the Edit button instead of double posting next time

Keep trying. The freezing is apparently random, but I have heard that it will always freeze on 50Hz.

 

[ryuu seika]

Also, random freezing during levels seems to occur at a much higher rate if items are involved.

And despite what others have said, MH actually does have time to hit the sand bag in HRC (just) but he always seems to hit it backwards.

 

[Ayatsuri_Rinku]

If you want to say something else in a thread, press the Edit button instead of double posting next time

Keep trying. The freezing is apparently random, but I have heard that it will always freeze on 50Hz.

oh ok :O btw, im not very technical, what do you mean by 50Hz?

edit: tried it again and it still froze

 

[ryuu seika]

Hold the B button down during start up and you will get the option of playing in 60Hz or 50 (default 50, atleast for PAL users).
From what I had understood, 50/60Hz just meant 50/60fps (frames per second) but according the the instructions manual for the starwars lightsaber duels game 50/60Hz actually corespends to 25/30fps. Odd.

Please report your game region if swapping to 60Hz fixes it.

 

[Linkshot]

Metal Master Hand looks so awesome. It's like a Power Glove.

 

[ryuu seika]

Yeah but aren't Power Gloves blue?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Also, random freezing during levels seems to occur at a much higher rate if items are involved.

I will add this to the OP.

Metal Master Hand looks so awesome. It's like a Power Glove.

 

[Ayatsuri_Rinku]

Hold the B button down during start up and you will get the option of playing in 60Hz or 50 (default 50, atleast for PAL users).
From what I had understood, 50/60Hz just meant 50/60fps (frames per second) but according the the instructions manual for the starwars lightsaber duels game 50/60Hz actually corespends to 25/30fps. Odd.

Please report your game region if swapping to 60Hz fixes it.

wow i didn't even know you could do that xD so I held B and this thing about progressive scan came up. It says "Enable progressive scan?" and i can choose yes or no. I chose "no" and i got Master Hand to work.

 

[ryuu seika]

Weird. In the PAL version you would have been asked about frame rate instead.

@GrimTuesday: I was thinking the bomberman power gloves...

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

Maybe I play to much Zelda but metal master hand reminds me of the Titan Gloves. (Alttp)

Edit: @ Grimtuesday Have you been contacted by someone asking a question about master hand I forget his name but I told him to talk to you about it if not I will ask the question by quoting his post.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Edit: @ Grimtuesday Have you been contacted by someone asking a question about master hand I forget his name but I told him to talk to you about it if not I will ask the question by quoting his post.

No, no one has contacted me.

 

[Dragoon Fighter]

[edit]

I juss thought of something
What if when, in teams, you steal a stock, you take that persons % and everything, and they go to 0 but lose the stock, meanwhile you come down with their old stock, at the same %.

Here is his question. Nice sig. by the way, are they the characters you mained though out the three smash games?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Here is his question. Nice sig. by the way, are they the characters you mained though out the three smash games?

I don't think I understand the question, but I should mention that stock stealing does not affect percentages and that MH cannot steal stocks as he can't die.

Thanks, the characters are my mains and secondaries from each game:
SSB Main: DK
SSB Secondary: Ness
SSBM Mains: Fox, Jigglypuff and Ice Climbers
SSBM Secondary: Donkey Kong
SSBB Mains: Jigglypuff and Mr. Game & Watch
SSBB Secondary: Donkey Kong and Pokemon Trainer.

 

[ryuu seika]

The quest was more of a "Would it balance him for teams if Stock Stealing did steal %?".

And the answer is an obvious yes as they'd die practically the instant the invincibility wore off.

 

[Linkshot]

Teams is basically the balance for Master Hand, anyway, lol.
He's terrible in singles but amazing in teams.

 

[goateeguy]

"August 24th, 2010"
Lolwut

read the description, he discovered it 6 years ago but only recorded it just now. Sounds kinda iffy to me, plus when he discovered it he didn't do anything about it, but that's his claim.

 

[voorhese]

lol wow ill post an old question from the older thread: why doesnt this work with the portrait glitch?, i noticed that MH is "sheik" when the game is left early, i dont remember exactly its either sheik turns into falco for the portrait glitch of other way around, so i figure it would just change his portrait in game to that? it wants to do something, sometimes it even does his entry sound in the loading screen.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

lol wow ill post an old question from the older thread: why doesnt this work with the portrait glitch?, i noticed that MH is "sheik" when the game is left early, i dont remember exactly its either sheik turns into falco for the portrait glitch of other way around, so i figure it would just change his portrait in game to that? it wants to do something, sometimes it even does his entry sound in the loading screen.

I've quite frankly never even heard of the Portrait Glitch by that name. Could you please explain?

 

[voorhese]

I've quite frankly never even heard of the Portrait Glitch by that name. Could you please explain?

kk do a master hand glitch successfully. exit the game via start -> start + l + R + A (or w,e it is)

this is the part i dont remember EXACTLY, i think its either you do the portrait glitch (highlight over another character, then reset to multi-player screen, then redo MH glitch (should be ready to, just have to glitch start).

OR

high light another character with the person that was master hand, and have someone else glitch start the match.

ill go check in a bit and edit this, unless i forget.

does anyone know why if u do the master hand glitch, then leave, then do the portrait glitch

it crashes?

it says masterhand is sheik, and the portrait glitch just changes the portrait right?
or is there more than meets the eye?

i tried this again, and it didnt crash either way, but i know it used to because i made a post... not sure how i used to do it, but it would try to start but, it couldnt.

 

[ryuu seika]

So does this or does this not mean that, by some bizarre and convaluted method, you can actually have master hand win a match without freezing it?

 

[voorhese]

So does this or does this not mean that, by some bizarre and convaluted method, you can actually have master hand win a match without freezing it?

didnt try that, but im sure you cant, the reason it doesnt work is cuz MH has no victory dance, and the portrait glitch only changes the portrait.

ill try it later tho

 

[The Star King]

Uh how can the portrait glitch possibly work with MH if you're required to select you character first?

 

[voorhese]

enter a match as master hand, then leave it.

 

[The Star King]

Why would that work?

 

[voorhese]

after i enter a match, then leave it i am still the same character on the select screen.

 

[The Star King]

after i enter a match, then leave it i am still the same character on the select screen.

Why start a match? The character selected before and after the match hasn't changed.

Let's just test it instead of arguing any further?

 

[voorhese]

i HAVE tested it, im wondering why it doesnt work.

 

[ryuu seika]

Normally you would select a character, then leave, then change the selected portrait without changing the selected character right?

You cannot select Master Hand. Normally no selection defaults to selecting him but in this case you have a selection, albeit not for every part of the character. As such, nothing now defaults to the selected portraits character instead.

This is if I am understanding you correctly.

 

[voorhese]

ok if u notice if you enter a match with master hand then leave it, ur still a blank player 3 (put ur turned on), just like if you where a fox and left you would be fox, i think it still treats it as you where master hand last time, you just cant press start to start it like you just tried the glitch.

 

[ryuu seika]

It puts you to what you had selected last time not who you were. I'm pretty sure not being able to start with start shows us that you do not actually have MH selected at that point (as it's not possible).

 

[TemPesT-]

i wanna see someone record master hands hitboxes with the infinite laser trick on, while he's doing the drill move.

 

[voorhese]

It puts you to what you had selected last time not who you were. I'm pretty sure not being able to start with start shows us that you do not actually have MH selected at that point (as it's not possible).

then explain why the portrait glitch crashes the game then?

 

[ryuu seika]

Perhaps it doesn't know which character it's loading.

Why does he crash on 50Hz?

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Perhaps it doesn't know which character it's loading.

Why does he crash on 50Hz?

Now THAT is a good question.

The difference between 50Hz and 60Hz for the non-technical out there is that 50Hz has more lines (and can thus provide greater detail) but updates at a slower pace. So objects will be sharper in general, but will blur much more easily.

I am assuming that because of the glitchiness with Master Hand when it comes to graphics (For example, the game's chance of freezing increases when there are too many graphical effects on the screen with Master Hand), 50Hz must just screw him over by some bizarre technical detail.

I haven't even tested the 50Hz thing mind you, the person who reported it could have just been having bad luck for all I know. I'll make sure to test it soon.

Also, that gives me an idea, would stages with more graphical effects be more likely to freeze when picked?

 

[ryuu seika]

I haven't even tested the 50Hz thing mind you, the person who reported it could have just been having bad luck for all I know. I'll make sure to test it soon.

That was me and it doesn't appear to be a one off. I set it to 50Hz by mistake and it happened yet again.

There may be some stages where it does work though I guess.

 

[Grim Tuesday]

Just realised something.
If Corneria is legal in your area, CP it. Pretty much means an instant win for you.

Worst character in the game my ***.

 

[voorhese]

Just realised something.
If Corneria is legal in your area, CP it. Pretty much means an instant win for you.

Worst character in the game my ***.

yeah, this has already been discussed, but i dont see why people dont ban MH... i havent really seen a ruleset with him off....

 

[Grim Tuesday]

yeah, this has already been discussed, but i dont see why people dont ban MH... i havent really seen a ruleset with him off....

I know what you mean.

It's not just lack of acknowledgement either, I mean, he's on the official tier list.

 

[TemPesT-]

someone win a tourney with him, and he'll be banned.
no ones been a big enough douche yet to try it.