The Official Ice Climbers' Video Thread

Prawn · Apr 5, 2010

ok so im gonna get a bunch of vids this week and you'll be able to have actual good stuff from me hopefully haha

Aglow · Apr 5, 2010

00-Zero: Just a quick note, in the MM, you rushed him for a grab and got hit by the bacon/frying pan flames. Any time g&w pulls out the bacon it should be an auto-grab., If you are dashing in for a grab, no reason for it not to be a power-shield grab.

Another quick note: at 1:00 on your second match againt MK, a running upsmash would have made the match a hella lot easier. Gj winning either way though.

I also noticed that you were really really grabhappy on CS s a whole, particularly near the end. I think better players will punish that a lot more.

I also wanted to point out that it is alright to post videos where you don't win. I think the feedback you'll get from those will be more useful to you than the feedback you'd get from that video of three-stocking falco (in addition to being more usfeful to the boards).

Thanks for posting!

00-Zero · Apr 6, 2010

Thanks for the advice.
I'm always grab happy in friendlies though, especially if I see that they aren't trying too hard to avoid it.

But yeah. I'm not the least bit hesitant to post videos of me losing

. That's why I posted my match with Nick A. I would have posted the first match that I lost in the MM if it were able to be saved at the time.

EverAlert · Apr 8, 2010

Aussie major this weekend, I'll try and record as many of my matches as I can.

KJay8 · Apr 8, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_3VLJsBBDn4 - Kakera (Ice Climber) vs RAIN (Meta Knight) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpknb6kCSlQ - Kakera (Ice Climber) vs RAIN (Meta Knight) 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5iNwo_KsaCg - Kakera (Ice Climber) vs RAIN (Falco) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qym_Z48vp5k - Kakera (Ice Climber) vs RAIN (Meta Knight) 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LDQa-d5R2hI - Kakera (Ice Climber) vs Ken (Lucario) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wk6EkDOELp4 - Kakera (Ice Climber) vs Ken (Lucario) 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JGyU_B19YCc - Ootori (Meta Knight) vs Kakera (Ice Climber) 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKojRJWKPXY - Ootori (Meta Knight) vs Kakera (Ice Climber) 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YGvmFH3bkU - Ootori (Meta Knight) vs Kakera (Ice Climber) 3

Tournament matches i uploaded of Kakera's Ice Climbers from Japan, i hope you enjoy =]
Thanks to Rubberbandman for pointing that out...

kackamee · Apr 8, 2010

Good lord Japanese Falco's are so fun to watch.

Rubberbandman · Apr 8, 2010

Also, note that Fragments = Kakera.

Smoom77 · Apr 8, 2010

Heh, good thing I didn't update it yet. Thanks for saying that.

r3d d09 · Apr 9, 2010

some insane stuff. I love it.

J4pu · Apr 9, 2010

KJay8 said:
videos

thank you very very much, I love watching Kakera's vids

r3d d09 · Apr 9, 2010

I think we all do. i love his style.

Teh Future · Apr 9, 2010

seems meh

10cats

Smoom77 · Apr 9, 2010

It'll be a while till I can update. I'm not even going to be home until really late Saturday night.

Variable · Apr 12, 2010

Thanks, helpful stuff. I keep screwing up in IC's Chaingrabs. I can down through CG, and the down throw nana Fair, but not the forward grabs when popo and nana alternate grab... Which is probably the best one... I'll get it down but it's a little tough. Overalll I think the IC are a good character but I'm just not too skilled with them yet. Then again I'm decent for having the game 2 weeks.

r3d d09 · Apr 13, 2010

Just keep practicing and take this chat to General discussion please

Prawn · Apr 15, 2010

me vs patg game 2(i won game 1 it wasnt recorded) tournament set

its not too impressive now that i look at it, but im not really that good on wonky stages and zss is hard as **** to desync against but eh, you dont show your best games for critique,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e-ZFVrbUrjs&playnext_from=TL&videos=zLuYVVQ1sf8&feature=sub

help me out bros

r3d d09 · Apr 15, 2010

i can't say much about the match up, but i what i do * could be wrong* is get rid of all her armor except for once piece. with this piece, i will hold onto it till i can throw it and know i can land a grab.

what i do at times with items is glide toss motion. causing nana to dash forward and i input a grab. i usually get the grab. the only thing they can do to avoid the item and the grab is jump. follow their jump with a spaced bair, nair, i don't care

Rubberbandman · Apr 15, 2010

I would do what Travv said, except use that one armor piece to desynch. Also, I felt you could have used the environment better, you stayed on the second transformation for the majority of the match, so you could have easily made an IB trap at the bottom part of the stage and use that to get an advantage (like UAir traps, or just more time to plan.)

Just my four cents. :x

Prawn · Apr 15, 2010

yeah thanks a definite weakness for me is knowing how to exploit stages

i should have more vids up soon :D

00-Zero · Apr 15, 2010

Here's some videos from about a month ago.
This is the prime example of why Link is an annoying match if they're good.
00-Zero

vs Pulse 1

I hated not having my phone on me at the time. Worse song ever imo XD
00-Zero

vs Pulse 2

00-Zero

vs Pulse 3

*Fix'd8
P.S. We just played a bunch of tourneys at a recent tourney that weren't recorded and I did much better this time around XP
I'm much better at chaining Link now, too.

I could still use some advice on the match-up though.

r3d d09 · Apr 15, 2010

zero, the first vid i'm watching is the 3rd and i can already tell, 1 minute in how the link plays. You need to learn to read, even under pressure. players with projectiles get in the worst habits, they will start doing something to give them time to think of something, It's how some IC's will desync IB to buy them time of what to do in a few seconds. you need to pick up on their habits.

i just watched another 30 seconds of it and i called 80% of what the link was going to do in that 30 seconds.

and seems like there was some slow reaction time during some of the match. We all have that, just pointing it out.

Learn to know what options they have. think of it as an ABC, they will either do an A, a B, or a C. this is thinking ahead and will vastly improve your game.

This is a major thing in FPS games. that's why i can relate it to smash. xD

dont be afraid to z catch some of the bombs.

and i see that you're just dashing for grabs and you'll get dsmashed or fsmashed. bait the grab.

Rubberbandman · Apr 15, 2010

Also Dubby, use nana as a shield during projectile camp wars. The ***** deserves it anyway.

r3d d09 · Apr 15, 2010

you say you got down the kakera desync... use it. be lucky that link isn't as skilled as some.

toobusytocare · Apr 16, 2010

Ice blocks are **** vs link. When i played deva i just camped IBs.

Variable · Apr 17, 2010

Great update, all of the videos are good, really good stuff. Lain's Grabbing abilites are just amazing... It's almost un fair in some videos.... The Guide to the IC's Really is "Don't Get Grabbed" XD.

Rubberbandman · Apr 21, 2010

I'll add some Lain & Kakera vids when I get home today, unless someone wants to beat me to it...

Also, smoom, update the OP sometime this week.

r3d d09 · Apr 21, 2010

he's been a busy boy. fo sho

Rubberbandman · Apr 21, 2010

r3d d09 · Apr 21, 2010

um. i youtube some stuff awhile ago and saw some new stuff vids about kakera, i will just have to find them again.

GimR · Apr 26, 2010

GIMR

vs. Neo

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VT3K88q1wqs

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gp4qF72t--Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iFujzvfMGpI

GIMR

vs. Candy

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xof5wTh8joM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A-pNaV7rheY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR3jwKt_V70

Prawn · Apr 26, 2010

im def gonna look at those videos later, i need help in the snake matchup + i might be able to give some critique in the marth matchup

Aglow · Apr 26, 2010

GIMR,

If those were your pairings for R1 and R2, ****. Those pairings were hard as ****.

Otherwise, I hope you got some more matches in as well.

Comments to come.

ch33s3 · Apr 27, 2010

GIMR, notes on NEO match:
Why are you approaching while you're ahead, Marth has an impossibly hard time getting in on a synched climbers. Desynching as you move towards him is a bad idea, marth can nair or fair nana and then go eat her. You got VERY lucky a few times that he missed the spikes on her, as well as him not grab release spiking your SoPo giving you free %.

You did REALLY well against candy, if you played just a teensy bit more conservative (NOT campy, conservative) you would've had the set I think.

GimR · Apr 28, 2010

Aglow said:
GIMR,

If those were your pairings for R1 and R2, ****. Those pairings were hard as ****.

Otherwise, I hope you got some more matches in as well.

Comments to come.

Rounds 3 and 4 of winners

ch33s3 said:
GIMR, notes on NEO match:
Why are you approaching while you're ahead, Marth has an impossibly hard time getting in on a synched climbers. Desynching as you move towards him is a bad idea, marth can nair or fair nana and then go eat her. You got VERY lucky a few times that he missed the spikes on her, as well as him not grab release spiking your SoPo giving you free %.

You did REALLY well against candy, if you played just a teensy bit more conservative (NOT campy, conservative) you would've had the set I think.

Yeah I got a little lucky against NEO. The reason I approached while I was ahead is because last time he timed me out(About 7 months ago) it was because I was ahead and started to run away, I felt approaching him while he got overly aggressive would do me better.

Yeah against Candy I lost focus. It was REALLY hard to mentally keep up what I was doing.(Watching and counting his grenades, shooting iceblocks, insta-throwing his grenades back, approaching at only opportune times, keeping him in the air, predicting the B-stick)

The grenade camping really mentally fatigues me. If I didn't get scared and stupidly break my shield as a result of my scared camping I could've won

shadyf0o · Apr 29, 2010

I picked up the Ice Climbers pretty recently. These vids are some friendlies matches..

Any critiques? Don't go to harsh, these games were for fun, lol.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KhoxCfP6FHQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QMwiE28pKrc

Rubberbandman · Apr 29, 2010

If I cant be myself, then it wont be much of a critique. =/

shadyf0o · Apr 29, 2010

Don't hold back then lol.

Aglow · Apr 29, 2010

shadyf0o said:
Any critiques? Don't go to harsh, these games were for fun, lol.

I wouldn't ask people to critique matches that were not serious to you, then expect serious/actual input.

shadyf0o · Apr 30, 2010

Aglow said:
I wouldn't ask people to critique matches that were not serious to you, then expect serious/actual input.

And why is that?

We were both trying to win. Just not as hard as we might if we were at a tournament. I wouldn't play ICs at a good tournament yet anyway. Just seeking tips.

HyL! · May 1, 2010

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y_WM9IXBfow
can i get some honest critiques please D:

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