TheSaintKai
Smash Ace
LOL. Well this just shows you guys how much time I've put into any sort of hobbling.
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The Official Ice Climbers' Video Thread
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| Big D |
Smash Master
TommyDerMeister
Smash Lord
Ruinn
Smash Ace
Not really a crititque, just something I noticed. In the mario match 3,, you had him grabbed at 130%+ and decided to like.. fthrow to utilt or something? you did this like twice. Should've just charged a usmash and got the kill. Other than that your ic's are very solid. You also desync very smoothly.
TommyDerMeister
Smash Lord
that was probably a technical mistake on my part. I find I'll accidentally be holding up when I'm trying to usmash sometimes, which results in the utilt. I'm still fairly new in using them in tourney, so nerves and not super awesome input precision got me. I had the right idea, I just don't know how to not press up I guess.
Thank you for thinking my IC's are solid though. Desynchs are fun.
Thank you for thinking my IC's are solid though. Desynchs are fun.
EthereaL
Smash Journeyman
Every time a chaingrab is dropped by an IC main (even me), I die a little inside.
That said, a few things to notice...
In Mario M3, you let him do the same exact thing to you for an entire stock. Powersheilding those should have been a given. When you're that far ahead, play safely. You kept charging in, and he punished you for it a lot.
In all of your matches, you had a very predictable squall hammer recovery. If your opponents had been better at punishing it, you would have eaten an fsmash / dsmash every time. That goes for your approach with it, too...you'll typically be punished for it.
Also, again regarding chaingrabs, you kept trying to spike them off-stage from the grab. This isn't guaranteed, so I don't recommend it at all. You have a 0-death on the entire cast (bar dittos)...use it.
That said, you had very smooth desyncing throughout your matches, and it was a good showing for fairly-new tournament ICs.
That said, a few things to notice...
In Mario M3, you let him do the same exact thing to you for an entire stock. Powersheilding those should have been a given. When you're that far ahead, play safely. You kept charging in, and he punished you for it a lot.
In all of your matches, you had a very predictable squall hammer recovery. If your opponents had been better at punishing it, you would have eaten an fsmash / dsmash every time. That goes for your approach with it, too...you'll typically be punished for it.
Also, again regarding chaingrabs, you kept trying to spike them off-stage from the grab. This isn't guaranteed, so I don't recommend it at all. You have a 0-death on the entire cast (bar dittos)...use it.
That said, you had very smooth desyncing throughout your matches, and it was a good showing for fairly-new tournament ICs.
TommyDerMeister
Smash Lord
I know that feel, bro. about dieing a little inside when a cg is dropped.
I did not know dthrow -> fair spike wasn't guaranteed, I won't use that much anymore.
I definitely need to work on cg's, approach and recovery mix ups, and realizing better when it's the time to camp/approach.
Thank you for the critique, I'll be better prepared for this weekend's tourney. I want my revenge against this Mario, we haven't met in tourney since those matches took place.
I did not know dthrow -> fair spike wasn't guaranteed, I won't use that much anymore.
I definitely need to work on cg's, approach and recovery mix ups, and realizing better when it's the time to camp/approach.
Thank you for the critique, I'll be better prepared for this weekend's tourney. I want my revenge against this Mario, we haven't met in tourney since those matches took place.
| Big D |
Smash Master
Came 4th at a regional.
Lost to Killock and Felix.
Skip to 2:03:31 for Me vs Felix(Diddy)
Me Vs Asadelta (Olimar)
Me Vs Firefly(Yoshi)
Me vs Atilla(DK)
Me vs Asadelta(20$mm)
Critique is appreciated.
Lost to Killock and Felix.
Skip to 2:03:31 for Me vs Felix(Diddy)
Me Vs Asadelta (Olimar)
Me Vs Firefly(Yoshi)
Me vs Atilla(DK)
Me vs Asadelta(20$mm)
Critique is appreciated.
da K.I.D.
Smash Hero
Were you the one that lost to cloud?
| Big D |
Smash Master
In a MM yes.
Who knew Sonic had invincibility on Yoshi's...
Who knew Sonic had invincibility on Yoshi's...
Rubberbandman
Smash Champion
| Big D |
Smash Master
Well there's a first time for everything.
Get over urself.
Get over urself.
Hey guys, I have some videos. It's some Finnish GFs from last weekend. Keep in mind there was a huge crowd and it was hyped and stuff so we were both in extreme pressure.
So please tell me how I can improve from here and if I have some bad patters or things I shouldn't do. Oh and don't mention the chaingrabs, it's obvious I need to improve and I hadn't practiced for several weeks before the set. Thanks in advance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqrh6gISw3c Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKH-DFcyG_0 Part 2
Please excuse me for the ****ty quality.
So please tell me how I can improve from here and if I have some bad patters or things I shouldn't do. Oh and don't mention the chaingrabs, it's obvious I need to improve and I hadn't practiced for several weeks before the set. Thanks in advance.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqrh6gISw3c Part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKH-DFcyG_0 Part 2
Please excuse me for the ****ty quality.
| Big D |
Smash Master
@LzR You got so many grabs q_q
When Mk is in the air, a short hopped blizzard is easily torn apart.
You did well at shielding nados a lot, I play the MU as the MK wants a nado all the time.
Maybe including some fulhop Blizzards. You can do thesem ore quickly b using other desyncs. The easiest/oldest one is 3 dashes into ice block, then popo can blizzard.
I don't really know what to say for Diddy, as you seen how I did vs Felix XD. What I learned though it's better to slow down when they have bananas, and just try and shield them and once he doesn't have nanas, go in. Had I done that vs Felix who knows...
When you have a nana, I noticed you like to throw them at him. If you are going to do that, try and throw it with A and use an ice block afterwards. It's a grab setup.
@Aefice
Wow, you play the Snake MU better than I do.
Instead of upairing their shield when they have a nade on the platform, try fullhop bair instead, or just waiting until the nade explodes.
Squall is a good move when they don't have a nade as it props up snake for juggling, and does a lot of damage.
At the end you had an ice block, you may have been able to recover. Also I know this sounds crazy but maybe even trying more fair. The startup gets people and it's relatively safe on shield, if you space it properly.
That SD at the beginning really hurt, you definitely were dominating that game.
For both of you I think you just need to get those cgs down. I wouldn't do tripless unless your really comfortable with it.
Snake is a pain, maybe learn to hobble?
When Mk is in the air, a short hopped blizzard is easily torn apart.
You did well at shielding nados a lot, I play the MU as the MK wants a nado all the time.
Maybe including some fulhop Blizzards. You can do thesem ore quickly b using other desyncs. The easiest/oldest one is 3 dashes into ice block, then popo can blizzard.
I don't really know what to say for Diddy, as you seen how I did vs Felix XD. What I learned though it's better to slow down when they have bananas, and just try and shield them and once he doesn't have nanas, go in. Had I done that vs Felix who knows...
When you have a nana, I noticed you like to throw them at him. If you are going to do that, try and throw it with A and use an ice block afterwards. It's a grab setup.
@Aefice
Wow, you play the Snake MU better than I do.
Instead of upairing their shield when they have a nade on the platform, try fullhop bair instead, or just waiting until the nade explodes.
Squall is a good move when they don't have a nade as it props up snake for juggling, and does a lot of damage.
At the end you had an ice block, you may have been able to recover. Also I know this sounds crazy but maybe even trying more fair. The startup gets people and it's relatively safe on shield, if you space it properly.
That SD at the beginning really hurt, you definitely were dominating that game.
For both of you I think you just need to get those cgs down. I wouldn't do tripless unless your really comfortable with it.
Snake is a pain, maybe learn to hobble?
Well there was a huge crowd and stuff and he had the burden of being the champion for such a long time so he was under a lot of stress. That's awesome for Icies. Would have had no chance if it wasn't for that. Also thanks, will try to FH blizzard sometimes too.
dettadeus
Smash Lord
Got some stuff to critique and some more that I'm posting so the other guys can get critique on what to do vs Icies. Pretty much nobody in my state has Icies experience; Bonds has experience from Lux which is probably why he was beating me.
Needs critique:
Vs Bonds (Snake): Game 1 Game 2 Game 3
Vs Meno (Peach): Game 1
Other matches:
Vs Skullkid (DK): Game 1 Game 2 Game 3
Vs Skullkid (Pikachu): Game 1
Vs Rizen (Link): Game 1 Game 2
Needs critique:
Vs Bonds (Snake): Game 1 Game 2 Game 3
Vs Meno (Peach): Game 1
Other matches:
Vs Skullkid (DK): Game 1 Game 2 Game 3
Vs Skullkid (Pikachu): Game 1
Vs Rizen (Link): Game 1 Game 2
