The Official Geno Thread

[Wu Tang Gang]

I think Psychoincarnate is referring to this:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/zack431/GenoAssistTrophy.jpg

Well, I guess Geno is deconfirmed then.

Megaman sure put up some lbs. there.

You can see his man ****.

 

[Mr. Alcohol]

Megaman sure put up some lbs. there.

You can see his man ****.

He's been drinking a lot lately, apparently. Too much stress about possibly being in TEH BRALL.

 

[Gimpyfish62]

careful guys, you've been doin good, keep it on topic

 

[IkexMarth]

I support Geno all the way! =D

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Well, now with the Coro Coro Geno AT rumor being false...

I say Geno's evidence (Though a bit of it rumors and stuff)

I'm still convinced he's a character until proven otherwise.

I still think that one fan art of him, the "Kingdom Hearts" Geno is the best interpretation of how he should look in Brawl.


Yes, an keep it on topic from now on.

 

[Mad555]

I dont know psycho, i like geno's normal animation

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

I dont know psycho, i like geno's normal animation

That would look off resized to actually fit how big he is compared to Mario...At least I think it would.

Of course this is all opinion, but I think Geno needs a Pit-like Makeover for Brawl...Build up his character to fit into future games

 

[A Link to the Snitch]

Personally, I think people are overrating his fan base. I'm sure plenty of people are fans, but it's nothing epic.

 

[PsychoIncarnate]

Personally, I think people are overrating his fan base. I'm sure plenty of people are fans, but it's nothing epic.

What's your point? Of course it's not as big as the Big name characters, Geno is more obscure. That's not the only thing going for him.

 

[Mr. Alcohol]

Personally, I think people are overrating his fan base. I'm sure plenty of people are fans, but it's nothing epic.

*HANDS HIM FLAME SHIELD*

Spoiler

CHARIXARDS

 

[A Link to the Snitch]

What's your point? Of course it's not as big as the Big name characters, Geno is more obscure. That's not the only thing going for him.

I'm not comparing him to big-names, I'm comparing him as an "All Star". SMRPG is a fine game, but I still stand by my position that Geno comes up for the reason that the fanbase is more outspoken than the few people who dislike him.

 

[Deleted member]

Dang, I had a really good feeling about this mornings update. I got so baked outa my mind just to see Geno on that very DOJO site. Yes, pot helps keep me up. I had to stay up 'til 2 am.

I am really eager to see what his appearance will be. Like, he should look like tht image Jesterbox drew. Now, that was a mind blowing drawing.

 

[DarkVision]

I'm not comparing him to big-names, I'm comparing him as an "All Star". SMRPG is a fine game, but I still stand by my position that Geno comes up for the reason that the fanbase is more outspoken than the few people who dislike him.

I consider Mario RPG an All Star Game and Geno an All-star character. Maybe a bit underrated because it wasn't known as much and wasn't releashed world-wide (Which will change with VC)... I don't know exactly what definition YOU use to describe "All-star" but I'd say he fits the title perfectly as an important age of Nintendo history

 

[A Link to the Snitch]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

 

[Rick88]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

Makes me wonder how characters like Luigi, Falco, and Pichu got into smash.

 

[DarkVision]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

Yes, Mario RPG was an important even in Nintendo history but was underrated at the time due to a couple other games (Chrono Trigger) that appeared at the same time.

It did have major influence on MANY future games though...

Just because something happened in the past, doesn't mean it's not important.

And I don't see the big thing on when it happened that matters in the first place

 

[IsmaR]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

What the hell? Do you go to every thread, slander the characters u don't like,
and see yourself as all knowing??
Geno for Brawl!!

 

[Thrillhouse-vh.]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

Actually, Nana wasn't even part of the story, she was just a color swap for player two. And, until Melee, there was no singular "Mr. Game and Watch" character.

 

[AmericanGTS]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

You're completely missing the point.

Square Enix didn't create direct sequels to their games until recently. Remember, every Square Enix game was "one shot". You see them, you love them, and then they retired. At least thats the way it used to be.

Geno is Square Enix's Mario character! If I'm not mistaken, that makes him the first Mario character that wasn't developed by Nintendo! That is certainly a part of history!

 

[DynamiteSpoony]

Important? Come on. He appeared in one game more than a decade ago, and had a single, minor cameo. He was never used for any serious role since. Geno could be called retro only because he's old, but no retro character has gotten in and not been the star of the game (Ice Climbers, Game & Watch, Pit).

There's only been 2 Smash games so far, so we don't know if being the star of their own game matters or not. Falco does kind of beg to differ, though. And the appearance of the Ice Climbers shows that Sakurai will sometimes just choose someone just because he likes them, regardless of obscurity.

 

[Mr. Alcohol]

Makes me wonder how characters like Luigi, Falco, and Pichu got into smash.

Luigi, Falco, and Pichu have been in recent games (at least by Melee standards--Pichu notwithstanding). There's nothing saying sidekicks can't get into Brawl, but Geno isn't exactly recent, OR the star of his game.

 

[AmericanGTS]

Luigi, Falco, and Pichu have been in recent games (at least by Melee standards--Pichu notwithstanding). There's nothing saying sidekicks can't get into Brawl, but Geno isn't exactly recent, OR the star of his game.

But Square Enix developed the game, I mean, obviously Geno wouldn't be but that isn't the point...

 

[DynamiteSpoony]

Luigi, Falco, and Pichu have been in recent games (at least by Melee standards--Pichu notwithstanding). There's nothing saying sidekicks can't get into Brawl, but Geno isn't exactly recent, OR the star of his game.

You do have a point, but I have to point out your contradiction....

Still, it doesn't really matter. If the fans like a character and Sakurai likes him/her too AND they fall under the criteria of being a candidate for Brawl, they stand a good chance.

 

[Mr. Alcohol]

You do have a point, but I have to point out your contradiction....

Still, it doesn't really matter. If the fans like a character and Sakurai likes him/her too AND they fall under the criteria of being a candidate for Brawl, they stand a good chance.

The part about not being the star of his game was warned about by my statement about sidekicks in Brawl. Lemme rephrase:

Geno isn't exactly recent, OR the star of his game. However, there's nothing that really says sidekicks can't get into Brawl.

 

[AmericanGTS]

Pichu and Jigglypuff are certainly "sidekicks" who don't play one single vital role to their games and yet they're important enough to be labeled as "All-Stars".

How is Geno any less deserving?! At least he is important and vital to the plot of the game he plays a major role in!

 

[Rick88]

Luigi, Falco, and Pichu have been in recent games (at least by Melee standards--Pichu notwithstanding). There's nothing saying sidekicks can't get into Brawl, but Geno isn't exactly recent, OR the star of his game.

Being that Geno was in an RPG game, he was actually more of what I like to call a "secondary main character", which actually goes for all characters in any RPG game. Anyways, he also claimed Geno played a minor role, which is a very false claim considering this was more Geno's story than Mario. It doesn't matter how recent each of those characters were, his main argument stated that no supporting characters could get into Smash, yet as stated before, I see characters like Luigi, Jugglypuff, and Falco in smash.

 

[DynamiteSpoony]

The part about not being the star of his game was warned about by my statement about sidekicks in Brawl. Lemme rephrase:

Geno isn't exactly recent, OR the star of his game. However, there's nothing that really says sidekicks can't get into Brawl.

Oooh. Okay. Thanks for correcting me.

And to keep it on topic....Geno for Brawl! :D

 

[Mr. Alcohol]

Being that Geno was in an RPG game, he was actually more of what I like to call a "secondary main character", which actually goes for all characters in any RPG game. Anyways, he also claimed Geno played a minor role, which is a very false claim considering this was more Geno's story than Mario. It doesn't matter how recent each of those characters were, his main argument stated that no supporting characters could get into Smash, yet as stated before, I see characters like Luigi, Jugglypuff, and Falco in smash.

How is SMRPG more about Geno than Mario? That statement is completey false. I can't believe you guys still believe this.

But the point is that Geno is neither recent nor the star of his game, so you can't pull out both the sidekick argument AND the non-recent game argument. It just doesn't work with Geno. Example:

Pit, IC's, and Game 'n Watch haven't been in any recent games by a long shot (barring Melee / Brawl). However, their games were Nintendo classics, and were brought back for nostalgia.

Luigi, Falco, Jiggs and Pichu weren't the stars of their games, but they have been in recent games, and arguably were either pretty rememberable, or played a semi-significant part in their games.

Geno has two things going against him here. He hasn't been in any recent games, and he wasn't the headlining star of his game. Mario was. End of story.

 

[AmericanGTS]

How is SMRPG more about Geno than Mario? That statement is completey false. I can't believe you guys still believe this.

But the point is that Geno is neither recent nor the star of his game, so you can't pull out both the sidekick argument AND the non-recent game argument. It just doesn't work with Geno. Example:

Pit, IC's, and Game 'n Watch haven't been in any recent games by a long shot (barring Melee / Brawl). However, their games were Nintendo classics, and were brought back for nostalgia.

Luigi, Falco, Jiggs and Pichu weren't the stars of their games, but they have been in recent games, and arguably were either pretty rememberable, or played a semi-significant part in their games.

Geno has two things going against him here. He hasn't been in any recent games, and he wasn't the headlining star of his game. Mario was. End of story.

Well let me ask you this.. did Geno exist prior to Super Mario RPG?

If he was created for Super Mario RPG, there should be a red flag that he was indeed important enough to create and have a rather large role in the game. He isn't like Frogfucious (sp) or the Chancellor. He helps Mario from the time he joins the party until the end of the game. He is vital to repairing the Star Road. Also keep in mind that Smithy is Geno's foil. Geno is as important if not MORE important than Smithy and Smithy is the main antagonist.

Whats wrong with Geno being a popular character anyways? Isn't that enough for you? Sheesh...

 

[DynamiteSpoony]

How is SMRPG more about Geno than Mario? That statement is completey false. I can't believe you guys still believe this.

But the point is that Geno is neither recent nor the star of his game, so you can't pull out both the sidekick argument AND the non-recent game argument. It just doesn't work with Geno. Example:

Pit, IC's, and Game 'n Watch haven't been in any recent games by a long shot (barring Melee / Brawl). However, their games were Nintendo classics, and were brought back for nostalgia.

Luigi, Falco, Jiggs and Pichu weren't the stars of their games, but they have been in recent games, and arguably were either pretty rememberable, or played a semi-significant part in their games.

Geno has two things going against him here. He hasn't been in any recent games, and he wasn't the headlining star of his game. Mario was. End of story.

Good points overall, just a few things...

It doesn't matter how important Geno was in SMRPG. He was one of the 5 main characters, and that's good enough to save him from secondary character status. But still, that makes no difference. If he's liked and requested enough, he has a decent shot.

And Ice Climbers wasn't an NES classis. Sakurai chose them because he liked the game Ice Climber. This shows that really, at the end of the day, Sakurai'll choose who he wants and AT who he doesn't. Saki, Lyn, and Samurai Goroh are proof of this. And things are looking pretty good for Geno as far as holding Sakurai's interest...

 

[AmericanGTS]

By the way, I highly doubt Mario and his friends could have repaired the Star Road without Geno's help. Essentially the plot of the game would have been absolutely pointless without Geno.

Edited for wording.

 

[A Link to the Snitch]

Could the game have been beaten without Frogfucius? Or Gaz?

 

[DarkVision]

Could the game have been beaten without Frogfucius? Or Gaz?

That's all still irrelevant.

What matters is Geno was a main character, playable in a Nintendo MARIO game with a fan base AND was mentioned on the poll.

 

[AmericanGTS]

Could the game have been beaten without Frogfucius? Or Gaz?

I don't see why not.. Frogfucious just offered advice and Gaz acted like an idiot and knocked Mario out. It might have taken Mario a much longer time to "save the world" but he could have done it regardless...

 

[DynamiteSpoony]

Could the game have been beaten without Frogfucius? Or Gaz?

What people don't get is that it really doesn't matter whether Geno was THE most important character in the game or not. The truth is he appears consistantly for the vast majority of the game, he's vital to the plot, and he's playable. But the ONLY thing that makes a difference and contributes to his chances to be in Brawl is that he's SMRPG's most recognizable unique character. THAT'S IT!

*huff huff*

 

[AmericanGTS]

What people don't get is that it really doesn't matter whether Geno was THE most important character in the game or not. The truth is he appears consistantly for the vast majority of the game, he's vital to the plot, and he's playable. But the ONLY thing that makes a difference and contributes to his chances to be in Brawl is that he's SMRPG's most recognizable unique character. THAT'S IT!

*huff huff*

Well I don't think that its the ONLY thing, but a good reason why..

 

[Fatmanonice]

I think Psychoincarnate is referring to this:

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/zack431/GenoAssistTrophy.jpg

Well, I guess Geno is deconfirmed then.

Why is Bomberman smoking a cigar? Anyways, contacting Square just to make him an assist trophy would be a complete waste of time for Nintendo. There's other factors too that highly suggest that the current situation is either that Geno will be playable or he won't show up at all.

 

[Chi's Finest]

What people don't get is that it really doesn't matter whether Geno was THE most important character in the game or not. The truth is he appears consistantly for the vast majority of the game, he's vital to the plot, and he's playable. But the ONLY thing that makes a difference and contributes to his chances to be in Brawl is that he's SMRPG's most recognizable unique character. THAT'S IT!

*huff huff*

I wanna put my ***** in this post.

I don't feel like going back a few pages, can someone fill me in on Geno AT rumor from CoroCoro, that apparantly was false?

 

[Mr. Alcohol]

Why is Bomberman smoking a cigar? Anyways, contacting Square just to make him an assist trophy would be a complete waste of time for Nintendo. There's other factors too that highly suggest that the current situation is either that Geno will be playable or he won't show up at all.

The cigar thing is kind of a running gag from the Bomberman thread. Go look at the first post for more.

And yeah, that pic was mainly just a joke. Not meant to be serious or anything. RDK thought it would be funny to freak Looooni out by saying that Coro Coro Comics confirmed Geno as an AT, so when Looooni asked him for the link, he posted the pic.

 

[DarkVision]

I wanna put my ***** in this post.

I don't feel like going back a few pages, can someone fill me in on Geno AT rumor from CoroCoro, that apparantly was false?

Really, the AT Rumor was RDK saying he had proof Geno was ending up as an AT prooved by Coro Coro, his "proof" was: http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i71/zack431/GenoAssistTrophy.jpg

I really don't think we have to worry about that, evidence (Well, from what I can see) is pointing to his inclusion...and I highly doubt he will be included as anything but a PC