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The Official Geno Thread
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Enigma14
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TBH we just played smart on that just because a select few of us voted for him doesn't mean that everyone wants him, Im not on Matheius side, just saying.
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Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
If you show me a character that everyone wants, I'll show you a Kenny G song that doesn't suck.
Loooooni
Smash Ace
Matheuw look at what Fatmanonice posted:
Well, at least there wasn't any huge arguements today. Anyways, there's something that's been on my mind all day. I've already talked about it in an earlier post and a little bit with Enigma but I'd like to here the thoughts of more Geno fans:
On Thursday, Saki Amamiya (the hero of Sin and Punishment) was revealed on the Dojo and, for Geno fans at least, this update could prove to be extremelly important. Why? Well, there's two reasons: (my main points are highlighted in red.)
1. Here's what Sakurai said during the update: "There were many requests from users for his inclusion, and he IS pretty cool, so I did what I could to include him." As most of us know, Saki did not appear in any of the 290 entries in the Toukeden (AKA Sakurai's Journal). We also know, thanks to Samurai Panda, that Sakurai said in one of his 29 comments that "Including only popular characters, doesn't excite me."
Why is this sigificant? This is significant because it provides further proof that the characters mentioned more then once were truely the characters that him and his staff were the most interested in (something that a decent amount of people still refute). If Saki had been as truely popular as Sakurai stated, why wasn't he one of the +100 characters that was mentioned at least once?
This continues to follow the trend that I mentioned in an earlier post that characters mentioned only once or not at all have been turned into trophies, stickers, AT's, and bosses. (Little Mac, the Advance Wars Infantry Men, the Hammer Bros, Slippy Toad, Petey Pirhanna and Dr. Wright were all mentioned once and I think you can deduct the rest like Lyn and Goroh.) As we've already seen, King Dedede (5 entries), Diddy Kong (4 entries), and Ike (4 entries) have been made into playable characters and Krystal (4 entries) was semi-confirmed two weeks ago when her voice actor "slipped" on her webpage. There are only two people left that had more then 3 mentions and haven't been confirmed yet, Ridley (4 entries) and Geno (5 entries).
This also ties into the 2001 Melee Poll results because Diddy placed third in the Rare category (with 15 votes, behind James Bond and Banjo/Kazooie respectively) and King Dedede (who was actually the fourth most requested character over all with 46 votes, behind Bowser, Peach, and Wario respectively.) was easily the most requested character in the Kirby category. As I said in an earlier post, Wario, Metaknight, and the Pokemon Trainer (refereed to as Red) were all the third most requested characters in their respective categories and most of their predesscors (except with the case with Metaknight) became playable or appeared on the field of battle in some form? Did Sakurai use the 2001 Melee Poll results as an early reference and express some of his wants for Brawl in his "journal" in 2006? Take what I said and you be the judge.
*Oh, before I forget, Dark Link also appeared in the Melee Poll and was ranked below everyone that became playable in the LoZ category. Six years later and now he's an ALT for Link. Samurai Goroh and a Metroid appeared as well and now their ATs.*
2. Saki is the star of Sin and Punishment. This game was a joint project between Nintendo and Treasure (a third party) in the year 2000. Because of this, he'd surely be copy righted under Treasure on the Dojo page, right? Surprizingly, no, that isn't the case. Instead of the company treasure, Saki is liscensed under an individual person: Shigesato Itoi. Who is Shigesato Itoi, you ask? He's actually the director and writer of all three Mother games and supposedly the creator of all the characters in Sin and Punishment. Shigesato Itoi has worked for Nintendo under APE Inc and HAL LABORATORIES in the past. How does this connect to Geno? I'll tell you...
This recent development shows that, in order to get a third party character, Nintendo doesn't nessecarily have to contact the specific third party in question in order to use them and this appears to be the case for joint project characters. For example, did you know that Dr. Wright is technically a third party character? Sim City was a joint project between Nintendo and Maxis. As I've mentioned in previous posts, Nintendo has the upper hand and more control in these situations when it comes to characters like this.
Currently, the two directors of Super Mario RPG, Yoshihiko Maekawa and Chihiro Fujioka, work for Nintendo under the second party company Alpha Dream (which they founded). They were also the directors of both Mario and Luigi games and, as many of us know, Geno appeared in the first game without Square Enix even being involved in the game's development. Are you following the logic trail I'm creating? In case you're not, here's the bottom line...
What happened in Mario and Luigi: Super Star Saga could easily happen again in Brawl. It's more then obvious that one of the directors (most suspect Maekawa) played a significant role in obtaining Geno for the game and or else Square Enix would have been one of the companies created for the creation of the game. In a way, they did what Itoi was able to do with Saki in Brawl, they were able to bend the rules and prevented dragging Square Enix completely into the project. Why was Square Enix credited then? It's because it is technically still their character but, then again, explain to me why Saki Amamiya isn't liscensed under Treasure but rather, an individual person? Lightning can strike twice, my friends, and I wouldn't be at all suprized if it did.
Well, those are my thoughts for the day. Feel free to comment.
Well, at least there wasn't any huge arguements today. Anyways, there's something that's been on my mind all day. I've already talked about it in an earlier post and a little bit with Enigma but I'd like to here the thoughts of more Geno fans:
On Thursday, Saki Amamiya (the hero of Sin and Punishment) was revealed on the Dojo and, for Geno fans at least, this update could prove to be extremelly important. Why? Well, there's two reasons: (my main points are highlighted in red.)
1. Here's what Sakurai said during the update: "There were many requests from users for his inclusion, and he IS pretty cool, so I did what I could to include him." As most of us know, Saki did not appear in any of the 290 entries in the Toukeden (AKA Sakurai's Journal). We also know, thanks to Samurai Panda, that Sakurai said in one of his 29 comments that "Including only popular characters, doesn't excite me."
Why is this sigificant? This is significant because it provides further proof that the characters mentioned more then once were truely the characters that him and his staff were the most interested in (something that a decent amount of people still refute). If Saki had been as truely popular as Sakurai stated, why wasn't he one of the +100 characters that was mentioned at least once?
This continues to follow the trend that I mentioned in an earlier post that characters mentioned only once or not at all have been turned into trophies, stickers, AT's, and bosses. (Little Mac, the Advance Wars Infantry Men, the Hammer Bros, Slippy Toad, Petey Pirhanna and Dr. Wright were all mentioned once and I think you can deduct the rest like Lyn and Goroh.) As we've already seen, King Dedede (5 entries), Diddy Kong (4 entries), and Ike (4 entries) have been made into playable characters and Krystal (4 entries) was semi-confirmed two weeks ago when her voice actor "slipped" on her webpage. There are only two people left that had more then 3 mentions and haven't been confirmed yet, Ridley (4 entries) and Geno (5 entries).
This also ties into the 2001 Melee Poll results because Diddy placed third in the Rare category (with 15 votes, behind James Bond and Banjo/Kazooie respectively) and King Dedede (who was actually the fourth most requested character over all with 46 votes, behind Bowser, Peach, and Wario respectively.) was easily the most requested character in the Kirby category. As I said in an earlier post, Wario, Metaknight, and the Pokemon Trainer (refereed to as Red) were all the third most requested characters in their respective categories and most of their predesscors (except with the case with Metaknight) became playable or appeared on the field of battle in some form? Did Sakurai use the 2001 Melee Poll results as an early reference and express some of his wants for Brawl in his "journal" in 2006? Take what I said and you be the judge.
*Oh, before I forget, Dark Link also appeared in the Melee Poll and was ranked below everyone that became playable in the LoZ category. Six years later and now he's an ALT for Link. Samurai Goroh and a Metroid appeared as well and now their ATs.*
2. Saki is the star of Sin and Punishment. This game was a joint project between Nintendo and Treasure (a third party) in the year 2000. Because of this, he'd surely be copy righted under Treasure on the Dojo page, right? Surprizingly, no, that isn't the case. Instead of the company treasure, Saki is liscensed under an individual person: Shigesato Itoi. Who is Shigesato Itoi, you ask? He's actually the director and writer of all three Mother games and supposedly the creator of all the characters in Sin and Punishment. Shigesato Itoi has worked for Nintendo under APE Inc and HAL LABORATORIES in the past. How does this connect to Geno? I'll tell you...
This recent development shows that, in order to get a third party character, Nintendo doesn't nessecarily have to contact the specific third party in question in order to use them and this appears to be the case for joint project characters. For example, did you know that Dr. Wright is technically a third party character? Sim City was a joint project between Nintendo and Maxis. As I've mentioned in previous posts, Nintendo has the upper hand and more control in these situations when it comes to characters like this.
Currently, the two directors of Super Mario RPG, Yoshihiko Maekawa and Chihiro Fujioka, work for Nintendo under the second party company Alpha Dream (which they founded). They were also the directors of both Mario and Luigi games and, as many of us know, Geno appeared in the first game without Square Enix even being involved in the game's development. Are you following the logic trail I'm creating? In case you're not, here's the bottom line...
What happened in Mario and Luigi: Super Star Saga could easily happen again in Brawl. It's more then obvious that one of the directors (most suspect Maekawa) played a significant role in obtaining Geno for the game and or else Square Enix would have been one of the companies created for the creation of the game. In a way, they did what Itoi was able to do with Saki in Brawl, they were able to bend the rules and prevented dragging Square Enix completely into the project. Why was Square Enix credited then? It's because it is technically still their character but, then again, explain to me why Saki Amamiya isn't liscensed under Treasure but rather, an individual person? Lightning can strike twice, my friends, and I wouldn't be at all suprized if it did.
Well, those are my thoughts for the day. Feel free to comment.
hotgarbage
Smash Lord
y hello thar Mathieu21. How's Gfaqs treating ya?
eh, I don't keep up with that stuff personally, but from what I've seen he's not bad. Regardless it really only matters if a person trolls in here, which he hasn't done.
Hm, that's true that not all requested characters will be playable, but Geno and Saki are really in different leagues, and Geno has much more going for him.
eh, some of that is probably because there have been some realllly bad trolls in here, but it is unwarranted nonetheless.
ParamoreRiot
Smash Lord
To correct you, Ridley is the most requested on this thread.
Then possibly Krystal, Megaman, and then MAYBE Geno.
Sorry but correcting people is what I do.
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
Ridley, Krystal and Mega Man are requestd more than Geno in Geno's own thread? Neither of them are even requested more than Geno in their own thread!
Sorry, but correcting illiterates/trolls is what I do.
Back on topic, I thik Saki being an AT raises a lot of hopes that Geno is going to be in one way or another, as an AT or PC.
Ryudo_Sama
Smash Ace
How can Ridley be the most requested when this is the GENO thread?
paralasalud
Smash Ace
i'd be sad if he was an AT. unless he comes out and does geno whirl for 999% damage. but still, i'd be sad. but it's okay because i've still got wario.
ParamoreRiot
Smash Lord
Sorry I didn't mean to troll and I didn't mean thread, I meant overall throughout the Smash Bros. community. I am a Geno supporter.
IMO though, those characters have a bigger fan base than Geno. On second thought, Geno would probably have a higher fan base than Krystal.
IMO though, those characters have a bigger fan base than Geno. On second thought, Geno would probably have a higher fan base than Krystal.
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
According to the numbers, Geno has more support. He also has the most hate.
I'm happy with Pit, so I guess I can survive with Geno as an AT, but I''d really love for a PC.
I'm happy with Pit, so I guess I can survive with Geno as an AT, but I''d really love for a PC.
error_alt_delete
Smash Champion
IDK why, but I see him being the more silent type.(I havnt played SMPRG just to warn you)
but if we were to get a voice I would say it be a semi deep mid pitch voice. I think he wouldnt say much even with taunts and winning poses.
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
He talks a lot in SMRPG and offers advice, and lots of other talking thingy majigs.
I think he would be something like he was in Rawst Forest, voice wise.
ParamoreRiot
Smash Lord
Do you guys have a separate forum that I could join and talk about Geno and stuff.
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
Deep voice wouldn't be fitting for him IMO. I like a young man type of voice for Geno.
ßruK
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Enigma14
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Should it be Jimmy Kudo who does the voice?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7m23QwLFKDI
I don't think it fits Geno but both are smart....so yeah
Thrillhouse-vh.
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Nah, I don't think a deep voice would be too fitting, but not too young, and not around 20 years old (because VA's in their early 20's always **** it up).
Actually, the Japanese VA for Conan voices Pit.
Chi's Finest
Smash Lord
Jimmy is the thin guy in the blue I take it? Meh, don't like it really.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
THIS thread?
http://smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=125441
^^That's the thread I'm talking about, where Geno beat Ridley a while ago.
Enigma14
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Yeah well no one likes englsih VAs on animes unless it really pits them...Yeah I know the Japanese Conan VA does Pit's voice
who else? Any suggestions?
Ryudo_Sama
Smash Ace
Maybe Geno should have InuYasha's voice.
wagnerelli
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Honestly, I think that Geno is going to have kind of a deep voice. Imagine a slightly higher version of Meta-Knight's voice saying "I serve a higher authority"
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
I think Geno should have an aristocratic like voice
So I was thinking, that maybe the Geno community could unite under aa couple of signitures.
I always though it was cute to have matching team uniforms when I played soccor and Hockey.
Perhaps we can agree on a tean uniform
Now before we begin, I ask people to be civilized and give a quick message, No TV commercial Pornsite messeges, Either you poll yes or no, and If you vote yes vote for a specific Signiture?
Tootaloo
PS: I'm serius, Like a dog
I vote for my G's up hoes down Geno sig.
PSS: But even if I don't win, I'll match uniforms, and I'll try not to make my team look bad.
But once geno Is in brawl or not, I'm oot
I always though it was cute to have matching team uniforms when I played soccor and Hockey.
Perhaps we can agree on a tean uniform
Now before we begin, I ask people to be civilized and give a quick message, No TV commercial Pornsite messeges, Either you poll yes or no, and If you vote yes vote for a specific Signiture?
Tootaloo
PS: I'm serius, Like a dog
I vote for my G's up hoes down Geno sig.
PSS: But even if I don't win, I'll match uniforms, and I'll try not to make my team look bad.
But once geno Is in brawl or not, I'm oot
Enigma14
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A what voice?
wagnerelli
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Aristocratic would be very dignified and slightly British.
DarkSpidey13
Smash Ace
you can be aristocratic without being british.
Geno should definitely NOT have a british voice.
wagnerelli
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Slightly. Like the faintest hint of it.
hotgarbage
Smash Lord
hmm... I was thinking about something:
(btw in this post I am assuming that the SMRPG2 rumor is true)
It's obvious that if there is indeed a new SMRPG coming out it would have no effect on Geno being in Brawl because the games are spaced too far apart (ssbb being all but finished and SMRPG2 just now being considered).
But what if it is the other way around? What if Square Enix is considering making a sequel to SMRPG because Geno is already in Brawl?
Think about it. Why else would Square Enix randomly make a sequel to SMRPG after 11 long years? Business wise it makes perfect since. Having Geno in Brawl would introduce and remind many people of SMRPG, and would guarantee that a SMRPG2 would sell like hotcakes.
Of course this is all very speculative, but it is interesting nonetheless
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(btw in this post I am assuming that the SMRPG2 rumor is true)
It's obvious that if there is indeed a new SMRPG coming out it would have no effect on Geno being in Brawl because the games are spaced too far apart (ssbb being all but finished and SMRPG2 just now being considered).
But what if it is the other way around? What if Square Enix is considering making a sequel to SMRPG because Geno is already in Brawl?
Think about it. Why else would Square Enix randomly make a sequel to SMRPG after 11 long years? Business wise it makes perfect since. Having Geno in Brawl would introduce and remind many people of SMRPG, and would guarantee that a SMRPG2 would sell like hotcakes.
Of course this is all very speculative, but it is interesting nonetheless
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ParamoreRiot
Smash Lord
I say Will Smith should voice Geno.
Any agree?
Any agree?
DarkSpidey13
Smash Ace
geno's voice should be deeper than that...maybe miroku's would be better.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Well, IF the rumors are true, Geno's chances raise dramatically...hmm... I was thinking about something:
(btw in this post I am assuming that the SMRPG2 rumor is true)
It's obvious that if there is indeed a new SMRPG coming out it would have no effect on Geno being in Brawl because the games are spaced too far apart (ssbb being all but finished and SMRPG2 just now being considered).
But what if it is the other way around? What if Square Enix is considering making a sequel to SMRPG because Geno is already in Brawl?
Think about it. Why else would Square Enix randomly make a sequel to SMRPG after 11 long years? Business wise it makes perfect since. Having Geno in Brawl would introduce and remind many people of SMRPG, and would guarantee that a SMRPG2 would sell like hotcakes.
Of course this is all very speculative, but it is interesting nonetheless
...Or they just saw the reaction some fans had for the possibility of Geno or noticed his popularity...
Enigma14
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Toasdworth like, i c i c...
But uh he doesn't have to sound like royality...
I'll search for english Miroku...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_np7afTM6dA
hotgarbage
Smash Lord
I suppose that would be a possibility, but IMO I don't think that Geno's popularity alone would be enough of a "kick in the butt" to get square enix to put resources into a SMRPG2.
wagnerelli
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Mathieu- No way he would have a voice that high. It does not fit his character.