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The North Carolina Melee Power Rankings! Updated 8/14/14!

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Welcome to shmups in general.

LEvels 1-3 are like "yeah.... okay" and then 4 and on are like "nhfiaduofyhdsf98iojflksdjuhsdf8ihdslfiudsgh8ofnuigfawd7ufhdsukfhuiodgfderfe*****"

It happens in Touhou, Mushihimesama, Castle Shikigami(this was my introduction to bullet hell games actually) and probably every other shmup ever. I think it's more obvious with bullet hell games though because danmaku are stupid.
Ikaruga's that way too
[my introduction to bullet hell games]

Cave games are ridiculously fun, but I'm kinda addicted to Bullethell games in general
The entire time I was playing Touhou I was thinking this:


Win
 

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Ikaruga always felt more like a methodical shmup than a bullet Hell to me. The levels are better designed. Although there are plenty of moments where I was AWW **** MOTHER****ING BULLETS EVERYWHERE.
 

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I had a dream......about Melee and that someone drank my powerade....so the first thing I did today was drink the rest of the powerade in the fridge.
 

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So which touhous are you playing or focusing on the most?
7 and 8
I like the ghost abilities of 8

Ikaruga always felt more like a methodical shmup than a bullet Hell to me. The levels are better designed. Although there are plenty of moments where I was AWW **** MOTHER****ING BULLETS EVERYWHERE.
What's the difference between a shmup and a bullethell?
I mean I agree that Ikaruga isn't particularly a bullethell but it has way more bullets than I was used to for top down shooters
 

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MEthodical shmups place more emphasis on the level design. The enemy placement compliments the level design more as opposed to bullet hells where the emphasis is more on bullet patterns. It's the reason why games like Rtype and gradius never have bullet patterns that are as complex as a Touhou or Dodonpachi but they are just as hard, if not harder. I feel like its more intelligent game design than bullet hells, which is why I prefer methodical shmups over bullet hells. IT also kind of saddens me how popular bullet hells have become and now methodical shmups are taking a backseat. I don't hate bullet hells. I actually like them, I just prefer methodical shmups.
 

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Okay CT did it help with the waveshining? XD



Edit: Is anyone in NC trying to go to Genesis 2? I'm registered and it would be cool to maybe fly with someone haha.
 

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I thought shmup was shoot em up but I feel like that was too easy

edit:
I would go with you PP
But I'm poor
 

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shmup IS shoot em up. it's the umbrella term. i thought you were asking me the difference between a methodical shmup and a bullet hell.

in other news, any idea when the summer nc gamefest should happen? i kind of liked the last one. it was nice chilling with you folks.

starfox assault needs to happen next time though.


[edit- ie, what would be a convenient time for everyone? I think i want to make these relatively frequent]
 

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Uh I haven't really worked on it too much, but for the most part, yeah; although if you have any other pointers, that helps.
 

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I'm not sure if you read my advice I gave a couple pages back about it, but maybe in addition to that work on it for a while and then quit for a while so your brain can work on it subconsciously.
 

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I'm not sure if you read my advice I gave a couple pages back about it, but maybe in addition to that work on it for a while and then quit for a while so your brain can work on it subconsciously.
Oh I didn't see your tip, I'll have to look for it x.x
But I followed Dorsey's advice

EDIT: I found it, yeah I started with Wavedashing consistently across FD, back and forth and with wavelanding on Yoshi's.
Then I've just done dashing to shine and D>S>WD

EDIT2: I'll only do it for like 15 minutes at a time, before someone in the townhouse wants to play xD
 

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Okay well I sort of meant each input(shine, jump, airdodge down) gradually sped up faster, then done in place, then done in a direction, then done switching directions. Whatever works though haha.

You may have to practice more than that at a time, BUT you can always practice between stocks in matches, so that works too.
 

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Nah Ace Ganon is just fun for me to learn so I can talk about him. If I actually wanted to be good with him I wouldn't enjoy him at all. Tooooo slow =p

Ganon is fun in his own right though. Anything I do with a double Fair feels pretty powerful LOL.
 

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I'm thinking about holding a fest at my place next Friday, June 17. There will be no "greens" [mod edit] allowed, but there may be alcohol. Housing is a possibility. No Brawl allowed. I live near Burlington, halfway between Durham/CH and Greensboro.

Consider this an interest check. If it's to be, I'll make a thread and start cleaning up.
 

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Did any of you watch the Nintendo E3? Was there anything about the new smash game? I heard it was confirmed but that's all I know, anything else?
 

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I'm thinking about holding a fest at my place next Friday, June 17. There will be no "greens" [mod edit] allowed, but there may be alcohol. Housing is a possibility. No Brawl allowed. I live near Burlington, halfway between Durham/CH and Greensboro.

Consider this an interest check. If it's to be, I'll make a thread and start cleaning up.
Alcohol you say?
 

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smash 4 was confirmed for wiiU and 3ds, but no gameplay/pictures/phonographs/anything but their word
oh and they said the wiiU and 3ds versions would cooperate somehow, maybe cross-online? thatd be super unfair for the 3ds players though lol
 

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Now see that's the kind of music I don't listen to
So yes everyone's going to be like "omg ear sex"
but for people like me who have different wants from music, it's not that great.

I just wish people would understand that there's no "right taste" in music.
 

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Now see that's the kind of music I don't listen to
So yes everyone's going to be like "omg ear sex"
but for people like me who have different wants from music, it's not that great.

I just wish people would understand that there's no "right taste" in music.
I dont listen to it either, but its just good

Theres no such thing as right taste in music but there is music that meshes with a character and meshes with melee
 

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Its 3 songs, the first one is dubstep the second one is a super bassy alternative rock song that wasnt bad at all

and the last one was some hard *** rap.
 
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