solecalibur
Smash Master
You think we can restart video selection and/or have a new poster I dont think the OP is active in zss boards anymore? and maybe put dates on some of these videos as they really dont represent some of ZSS's metagame
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Realistically, it's best to assume any character can PS the jab. I think only G&W and Squirtle are guaranteed if they don't SDI. Every other character can PS it by holding down and shielding. I play NC-Echo often enough to know that Olimar is immune to jab.I thought none of the floaties could.
Anyways, I didn't mean to lie, but as far as I know he can't.
SFP's active, he's just being a bnub.You think we can restart video selection and/or have a new poster I dont think the OP is active in zss boards anymore? and maybe put dates on some of these videos as they really dont represent some of ZSS's metagame
Oh yeh your active just lazy like me I suppose its better then other boards Ive seen were there zss videos consist of some random zss user ive never heard ofYeah I'm being a bum. But it has more to do with the only recent good videos being from Kamui and Nick Riddle... we need more than that to have an "archive." I don't plan on keeping any videos that are from a point earlier than ~April.
I will work on it in the next week or so (I mean it this time) before I move to NYC.
Olimar can def. shield the jab. Check my thread on our jab for info on who we can and can't finish the combo on, it's there to be used.
Marth is literally the most brain dead character in brawl.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTeWGGvhnkk
Sole [zss] vs Lain [marth]
Worth posting I suppose since it's lain's 2ndary ... or 3rd
depends on the marth you vsMarth is literally the most brain dead character in brawl.
I think even falco might have more thinking involved MAYBE
The only difficult thing about him is knowing the tip spacing and when to tip, he is not hard to master.depends on the marth you vs
I know a ton that aireal spam and sword dance and then some people moderate marth
Hes easy to scrub but hard to "master"
good stuff overall but i noticed a few things that you need to work onhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uTeWGGvhnkk
Sole [zss] vs Lain [marth]
Worth posting I suppose since it's lain's 2ndary ... or 3rd
I guess I have a question as well at 0:58 would you normaly curve inward for your kick or outward? I do it more self conscientiously these days
good stuff overall but i noticed a few things that you need to work on
1. dont use flip kick to back on stage as much, especially against someone who knows the matchup its a very easy way to get gimped at high %'s , and also remember that you can also footstool to get back on stage rather than have them shield the kick and punish you
2. you need to learn how to punish a little bit better Zss's safest and best punishing tools are dtilt/uptilt/u air out of shield (doesnt work in all circumstances but yeah)
3. everyone nowadays uses either green or default (myself included) lawl
4. oh and that upthrow last stock was too good
overall good stuff keep it up
Not gonna lie, Snakeee got dominated by that Metaknight. Don't let the 1-stock victory fool you; Snakeee never had a chance (at least not in this particular game). I'll root for ZSS every time, but seeing one of our best get destroyed by a Metaknight (possibly not even their best) is disheartening. I did learn to concentrate more on my vertical game and have made a conscious effort to avoid spamming side-b.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GBVJU7-QXjE - Snakeee vs Arrancar18 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-ibhZdVve0 - Snakeee vs Arrancar18 2
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bR_6ytJpvG0 - Snakeee vs Shadow 1
So yeah. These matches clearly show that Snakeee rarely if ever side-bs.
They also show that he has a pretty unique playstyle that is very technical and vertical. Lots of air dodging to bait (I don't think that's very smart, his brother punished it a lot). He has almost eliminated ZSS' X-axis from his gameplay and focuses almost entirely on her juggling game and quick attacks on the ground (dash attack, jab).
This is true. I think you need to understand though that this is Snakeee's brother he's playing, and I can say speaking from experience playing my own brother, that even though I feel we have only a slight disadvantage against Olimar (my opinion), my brother beats me 7/10 times because he knows me well. I also know I'm the better player, my brother is just better at beating me than I am him.Not gonna lie, Snakeee got dominated by that Metaknight. Don't let the 1-stock victory fool you; Snakeee never had a chance (at least not in this particular game). I'll root for ZSS every time, but seeing one of our best get destroyed by a Metaknight (possibly not even their best) is disheartening. I did learn to concentrate more on my vertical game and have made a conscious effort to avoid spamming side-b.
lol that must be the reason for your sigThis is true. I think you need to understand though that this is Snakeee's brother he's playing, and I can say speaking from experience playing my own brother, that even though I feel we have only a slight disadvantage against Olimar (my opinion), my brother beats me 7/10 times because he knows me well. I also know I'm the better player, my brother is just better at beating me than I am him.
Nesses do this, too, but I think Ness's isn't as good. You did well to trade hits for the kill, though.$1 MM Lucas vs Me -
same guy I MM before got him down faster but
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEaN-e5rqKo
- 1:40 I already know
- 1:43 a lot more lucas' are starting to do this Im not sure about ness' maybe I'll MM Smash64 next time
Its how my crewmates and my best friend are but we friendly so much it doesn't even matter it just makes the match up 50/50 ... even if it is ROBThis is true. I think you need to understand though that this is Snakeee's brother he's playing, and I can say speaking from experience playing my own brother, that even though I feel we have only a slight disadvantage against Olimar (my opinion), my brother beats me 7/10 times because he knows me well. I also know I'm the better player, my brother is just better at beating me than I am him.
good stuff fk i lawled at second matchNoKoast v2 Doubles Tournament Match
8-Bit Porn(Chuck Nasty-G&W and FK-ZSS) vs. Ratman/Karmacide Double Snake.
Match 1: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5k8ZDrAhFsY
Match 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=saijaN7cl28
1st vid was solid, there are a couple times like at :51 where you get away with really bad spacing cause your opponent wasn't the greatest. He also wasn't spamming arrows as much as he should have been if he knew the matchup, but that's how it is. I liked your random use of pivot boostingthese vids are from a tourney this past saturday i just wish i wouldve recorded more
enjoy
Bombchu vs Shlike 1:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2P4gP8H6SA
Bombchu vs Shlike 2:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jha0Zk46h4U
This doesn't work on Pit because his reflector makes him immune to moves from the front, including dsmash. You could try to grab him though.Just in general against any reflector but falco's I like downward GT to dsmash, since they hold the reflector a lot of times anticipating the fthrow and so you can punish the lag pretty easily. Against falco's it's much harder to do because you pretty much have to have perfect spacing and dGT, powershield the reflector, then dsmash
Isn't it only like that for the first few frames or something? Or is that the turnaround propertyThis doesn't work on Pit because his reflector makes him immune to moves from the front, including dsmash. You could try to grab him though.
It's just the turnaround property. The shield stays out as long as the player holds it there.Isn't it only like that for the first few frames or something? Or is that the turnaround property
Good stuff. Try using Bair as an approach/ to space instead of just jump in/over B. Also a bit less paralyzer.Nice little trick vs that sheild is over B since you can pass the sheild and hit pit
Ive seen my over B only reflect once and thats when I used it and he quickly pulled it out and all I did was go in the opposite direction (funny KO in doubles though if you get the timing right)
edit -
New vid!
I didn't win but here is a samus
and DK vid id ignore not really what they are up to in the meta game these days
Sole [ZSS] vs Pops! [Samus, Dk]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKk0CguTecU&feature=related
sole trying playing a few friendlies without EVER using side b this will force you to be creative and i guarantee you you'll start to play better.Nice little trick vs that sheild is over B since you can pass the sheild and hit pit
Ive seen my over B only reflect once and thats when I used it and he quickly pulled it out and all I did was go in the opposite direction (funny KO in doubles though if you get the timing right)
edit -
New vid!
I didn't win but here is a samus
and DK vid id ignore not really what they are up to in the meta game these days
Sole [ZSS] vs Pops! [Samus, Dk]
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKk0CguTecU&feature=related