Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Looking up DMG for Brinstar and stalling. Will get back to you shortly. Please wait.
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The *NEW* Snake Boards Stage Discussion (currently discussing Brinstar)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV4N_F2QaPU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeXmXZmtv6w
there was another one I can't find vs luke atyeo IIRC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PeXmXZmtv6w
there was another one I can't find vs luke atyeo IIRC
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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Why is it that Razer is the only one I can find for Brinstar xD
I can totally see RC being worse than this. But, I'll wait for a Wario to give there opinion.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Guys.....we aren't talking about Brinstar.
Anyway, I for sure that taking Diddy here is a good idea!
Anyway, I for sure that taking Diddy here is a good idea!
smashkng
Smash Lord
RC is very dependant per character. CP Diddy is good here, but CP MK to RC is a terrible idea. Utilt and Uair can kill extremely early here, but it also forces Snake to be more in the air.
people avoid your **** on this stage, the first part will probably get you ****ed up because of how small it is vs. most characters. yeah, you can get low percent kills at certain parts of the stage but who's dumb enough to jump at a snake sitting on one of those high up platforms probably waiting to utilt or something. Anyone can just run away from snake on this stage and its not good, anyone saying a stage like brinstar is worse doesn't know much. Brinstar isn't even a bad snake stage generally, its probably a good one of anything.
Snake does worse on this stage BY FAR compared to any other janky cp, it should always be your ban and its not any good.
Snake does worse on this stage BY FAR compared to any other janky cp, it should always be your ban and its not any good.
TwentyTwo
Smash Ace
People can avoid your **** on any stage, it's why you cook, and make plans and all that jazz. The thing about RC is that it's a moving stage, that means people move with it, and if you stay ahead of the curve, then you get a sizable advantage because they have to weave through all the **** you left behind.
They have multiple paths they can take on any part of the stage while keeping ahead of you or just staying behind to watch what you do. Its just too big to think his projectiles are very effective, and if anything snake has to try to play offensive and keep up with them which wont work really well. You should probably ban this most of the time except vs. certain characters that have ****ty recoveries and cant do much here anyways, or unless you REALLY feel uncomfortable on some other random stage and would rather ban it. Personally, i like to ban BF sometimes or another stage that benefits their main and let them go to rainbow cruise. I can switch to MK and due to just a bit of good practice playing him on the stage its almost like his playground, and if its dittos you'll be just fine outplaying him, or you'll wreck almost any other character if you play it right.
TwentyTwo
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Stage control is always a part of our game though, putting a c4 or dropping a grenade, shoot a mortar even. I just think that you can abuse stage control on this stage really well, just because the stage forces people to move, and not just focus on avoiding your shiz. Like when I had my thread and write up about this stage, it talked about trying to be on the left of the boat, jump to the upper platforms on the carpet phase, stay to the right from there, and under when it falls. I do agree it's not necessarily all about recoveries, but probably also aerial mobility.
MK is **** on this stage, no debating that.
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I think Smashville should be next. If not, BF
Elyssa Xey Hexen
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That's not a janky stage.
Green Greens since it's in the MLG.
Green Greens since it's in the MLG.
yes, it should go through all of snakes worst stages not the neutrals <_<
I sort of agree.....but only MLG is running the MLg rules.....maybe a few other states or something. Everyone else is still using normal ****, and lets be real. How many of you are gonna go to any of the MLG tourneys? I think their will only be 2 snake mains that even sort of visit the boards going. I'd rather stick to the other normal janky stages and end up doing those at the end if its necessary
I sort of agree.....but only MLG is running the MLg rules.....maybe a few other states or something. Everyone else is still using normal ****, and lets be real. How many of you are gonna go to any of the MLG tourneys? I think their will only be 2 snake mains that even sort of visit the boards going. I'd rather stick to the other normal janky stages and end up doing those at the end if its necessary
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Oh sorry. Janky stage?
I'd say green greens too but I don't have much experience there.
I'd say green greens too but I don't have much experience there.
Eh, I'm not all for the idea of Green Greens.
I've been seeing a lot of how Brinstar is really bad for Snakes. I'd like to know more about it. It was once believed to be a good stage for us, but that's changed obviously.
If not that, I'd like to know about Norfair. I've seen that stage counterpicked here quite a bit actually. I know it's counter/banned, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it. I know Green Greens is too, but I never see it played.
Those are the only two crazy stages I can think of that are giving me trouble.
I've been seeing a lot of how Brinstar is really bad for Snakes. I'd like to know more about it. It was once believed to be a good stage for us, but that's changed obviously.
If not that, I'd like to know about Norfair. I've seen that stage counterpicked here quite a bit actually. I know it's counter/banned, but that doesn't mean we shouldn't consider it. I know Green Greens is too, but I never see it played.
Those are the only two crazy stages I can think of that are giving me trouble.
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I'm going to the one in ohio :D
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But I don't think MLG will run Green Greens in Ohio. Normally Ohio or Midwest have it banned. And maybe they just don't realize how broken Green Greens is so once they do they may end up banning it by the next ones.
But I don't think MLG will run Green Greens in Ohio. Normally Ohio or Midwest have it banned. And maybe they just don't realize how broken Green Greens is so once they do they may end up banning it by the next ones.
6Mizu
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Guys imma A LOT need more information for RC. Also, I'll be updating this most likely next week, because of School.
UltimateRazer
Smash Champion
Hmmm. Just saw the FD stuff on the front. Why would you take a D3 there. Dumb dumb 
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RC is...idk. I want to learn it. If you don't get gimped and can run away and make your opponent fight you when you want, it can be good.
.RC is...idk. I want to learn it. If you don't get gimped and can run away and make your opponent fight you when you want, it can be good.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Whooops! See, This is exactly why I have you guys check my work, because at some point we all make dumb mistakes. 
TY, Ultimate.
Come on guys more info.
BTW, I get to this most likely next week. (School issues)
TY, Ultimate.
Come on guys more info.
BTW, I get to this most likely next week. (School issues)
rc has been banned in my region for ages, so i cant really say anything about it...
6Mizu
Smash Champion
OP updated! Please look over the info and suggest things to make it better.
What stage should we do next?
What stage should we do next?
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Anyone else think so? I personally think we should one of the weird stages on MLG's list.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Guys I'm sry, but I do not let my important thread die. I need to know what we should discuss next. Any suggestions? or Shall I choose?
Also, sry about double post, but if I didn't post then no one would have. So it was worth it.
Also, sry about double post, but if I didn't post then no one would have. So it was worth it.
Underload
Lazy
Discuss Green Greens.
Limeee
Smash Champion
Green Greens is legal in my region, and it is an amazing stage.
-uptilt kills mad early
-di into the blocks to get saved randomly, its gay. but play to win
-when the apples (whatever they are) come down, add them into your camp game
-always keep up the pressure
-when playing against DDD make sure to get rid of the blocks to avoid getting infinited
-fly under the stage with cypher for the occasional mix up
-C4 on middle platforms plus grenade pressure is a very good fortress
-ftilt can be followed up against the walls
this stage is mad good, especially against MK
i would take everyone but D3 here
-uptilt kills mad early
-di into the blocks to get saved randomly, its gay. but play to win
-when the apples (whatever they are) come down, add them into your camp game
-always keep up the pressure
-when playing against DDD make sure to get rid of the blocks to avoid getting infinited
-fly under the stage with cypher for the occasional mix up
-C4 on middle platforms plus grenade pressure is a very good fortress
-ftilt can be followed up against the walls
this stage is mad good, especially against MK
i would take everyone but D3 here
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
If D3 CPs this stage you CP MK, it's soooo easy to get a lead and then stall him out here.
Yumewomiteru
Smash Master
I think if there is nothing else to discuss we should start a rediscussion of some stages. For example I think we overestimated Halberd's usefulness for us.
IMO, Halberd is a bad stage to pick against alot of Snake's counters. DDD for example can kill Snake earler then we can kill him with the uptilt. And **** with the chaingrab on the actual ship portion. Also because of the small size of the usually platform stage and the central platform, characters who can juggle snake well (MK, Marth, Zss, etc) can juggle him really well there.
IMO, Halberd is a bad stage to pick against alot of Snake's counters. DDD for example can kill Snake earler then we can kill him with the uptilt. And **** with the chaingrab on the actual ship portion. Also because of the small size of the usually platform stage and the central platform, characters who can juggle snake well (MK, Marth, Zss, etc) can juggle him really well there.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
So are we discussing Green Greens then?
Underload
Lazy
I think Green Greens is worth dicussing, yeah. Rediscussions are tedious, so I'd rather cover borderline stages we haven't touched upon yet than talk about things that have already been talked about.
6Mizu
Smash Champion
okay, Green Greens it is I'll update it soon.
AvoiD
Smash Lord
Diddy should be added to take to Yoshi's Island. Slopes mess up naners, and small stage, easier gimps.
Limeee
Smash Champion
take everyone (including MK) to green greens
don't take dedede or olimar there
maybe falco i dunno
don't take dedede or olimar there
maybe falco i dunno
6Mizu
Smash Champion
Okay so Green Greens, since this became legal I've played this stage a lot vs. rPSI. Everything I know about this stage is going straight to OP. But please keep discussing.
EDIT: @jujitsutide: Excuse this please, but your retared. You cannot take G&W there...once he gets center stage control...you've lost the match.
EDIT: @jujitsutide: Excuse this please, but your retared. You cannot take G&W there...once he gets center stage control...you've lost the match.