Knyaguy
Smash Lord
Are you talking about the SE? What about Rayquaza, he is pretty big. They can just resize pokemon.
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The New Official Mewtwo Thread
- Thread starter Collective of Bears
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MysticKenji
Smash Master
I think you're accidently mixing two sections together here...
Kilroy71
Smash Cadet
I believe you misunderstood me. I meant that Mewtwo is one of the only legendary pokemon that work well as a playable character. Most of the legendaries are a)huge and b)awkwardly shaped. For instance, Kyogre could definetely be a boss, but I couldn't imagine playing as him. Just about all of the legendaries could be bosses as most bosses are supposed to be gigantic, whereas these gigantic boss characters wouldn't work as a playable character.
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Agreed. The only other Legendary Pokémon I could see as playable characters was confirmed as an item Pokémon on July 17th.
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
In that case..yeah I agree.
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
although rare i dont think Mewtwo would count as a legendary pokemon...Mew yes...but not Mewtwo (^^)v
Silfa
Smash Ace
Mewtwo has the genes of a legendary though, right? :]
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Canonically, there is only one Mewtwo, in both the games and the anime, so he's more than just 'rare'. He's a clone of a Legendary Pokémon, and he has every characteristic of a typical Legendary Pokémon too, so how isn't he considered Legendary?
MetaKnight'sSword
Smash Lord
but thats what he is though, a clone. something that can be created like that through Science and technology is not considered legendary, and although his origin was in fact from a fossilized eyebrow (was it an eye brow???) of Mew, he really has no stories, Myths or Legends about him. thats what i mean senor (^^)v
that is tru XDDDDDD
I dont get one thing though ...if Mewtwo is 150...and Mew is 151....but y did Mewtwo com after Mew???
Just call him "urban legendary" or something. The point is that "legendary" is not to be taken literally. It just describes those certain unique Pokemon who have a special role in the world.
Why is Bulbasaur number 1? Hardly because it's the first Pokemon in existence, or the first one that a normal person would encounter in their lives... it's just one of the first you meet in the game.
The whole numbering system makes no sense in the least if you translate it into real-life logic, so just nod and smile.
sonic smash down
Smash Lord
thats true mewtwo is created from mew but the real point of legendary pk is that you can only find 1 or little of them anywhere....ex. mewtwo can only be found once in one place ( the cerulean cave)
and yeah wit a different side b but i wouldnt mind the down b if the range was larger or sometin that could make the move better
and yeah wit a different side b but i wouldnt mind the down b if the range was larger or sometin that could make the move better
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Mew is a secret Pokémon, so it must come last.
Thrillhouse-vh.
Smash Hero
But Mew's the first pokemon, according to Kanto history. I'm so confused...
RazeveX
Smash Ace
it's pokemon, it doesn't have to make sense.
gangstajuice656
Banned via Administration
long threads like these are the best!!
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Keep in mind the Pokédex numbering system is based solely on Professor Oak's studies of Pokémon. Ask him why Mew came last... And Mew was so rare that people thought it was a mirage, so it may not have been documented.
Oathblivion
Smash Apprentice
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I think the dex numbering system grew out of Oak's boredom. One day, he wanted to make a catalog of all the pokemon, so he randomly started picking up pokeballs and writing down stuff about whatever came out. Using his stash of Rare Candies, he evolved them all, and then deleted all the data so the protagonist of R/G/B/Y could redo all his work. Either that or a random number generator could've been accidentally programmed into the dex... Yeah.
Anyway, I must say that all these "Lucario replaces Mewtwo" topics are getting me down. It is easy enough to ignore them and blame them on liars/misinformation, but that thought is always in the back of your head. "Serebii is hardly ever wrong" and "multiple threads say so" etc. On the other hand, taking Mewtwo out is a mistake I would hope Sakurai realizes. Most older Smash fans didn't know who lucario was until he started plaguing the boards, and those older people are going to buy Brawl. The same thing with Lucas, really...
Shaken but not beaten, -Oath
PS: Mewtwo for Brawl, of course. *glares at Lucario*
Anyway, I must say that all these "Lucario replaces Mewtwo" topics are getting me down. It is easy enough to ignore them and blame them on liars/misinformation, but that thought is always in the back of your head. "Serebii is hardly ever wrong" and "multiple threads say so" etc. On the other hand, taking Mewtwo out is a mistake I would hope Sakurai realizes. Most older Smash fans didn't know who lucario was until he started plaguing the boards, and those older people are going to buy Brawl. The same thing with Lucas, really...
Shaken but not beaten, -Oath
PS: Mewtwo for Brawl, of course. *glares at Lucario*
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
I hear ya.
Ridley FTB!!!
Smash Lord
May The Psycotic Clone Join Brawl!!!!!!!!!!!
sonic smash down
Smash Lord
just ask the commander on the first page
The clone legendary will return i have no doubt
The clone legendary will return i have no doubt
Luigi player
Smash Master
I have many doubts... Oh god, they can't let Mewtwo out, he was the coolest character in Melee (just not the strongest).
:034:
Smash Hero
I have thought of a possible Final Smash.
In the Pokémon Special manga...
I think you get the idea. Mewtwo would create his vortex seen in the manga to suck up his enemies and do some massive damage. However, this is not a killing move. You have to kill your opponents yourself, so this move should only be used when your opponents are at low percentages.
In the Pokémon Special manga...
I think you get the idea. Mewtwo would create his vortex seen in the manga to suck up his enemies and do some massive damage. However, this is not a killing move. You have to kill your opponents yourself, so this move should only be used when your opponents are at low percentages.
Infinite Krullen
Smash Journeyman
Well here is a FS with some possibility of coming in it :D
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
No, no. One person came up with that idea and decided to post a fake spoiler about it. Then all of the other losers just hopped on the bandwagon and did the same thing when they started their rumors. There is still no logical evidence to suggest Mewtwo will be replaced by Lucario anymore than Jigglypuff will.
That attack looks pretty cool, actually. I never thought of Psywave as a really strong attack. But if Mewtwo can move around while he has the psychic tornado of death whirling around him, that would make for a sweet Final Smash.
SvartWolf
Smash Champion
thats exactly why he should be a "legendary" pokemon and not a "Mythic" pokemon, like lugia, unkown or arcanine... ( if i recall good , arcanine was a mythic pokemon)...
there is a great difference betwen myth and legend, althought the term "legendary pokemon" is used in pokemon only to say that you have only one chance of capturing that pokemon in teh whole game...
as for mewtwo attacks, i have read the idea for the final smash, and it's pretty nice.
As a mewtwo player i could make a list of the "improvements" and "ideas" that mewtwo should have...
1. the only move that should be higly reworked is confusion... in melee that moves just plainly suck.. i have posted my alternative to rework confusion in the other mewtwo post but i will repost the idea here:
as everyone should know, mewtwo is excellent throwing items, a quallity not always apreciated in itemless settings. the idea of the "Improved Confusion" is that whenever mewtwo doesn't have an item stored and succesfully hit a projectile with confusion, he "captures" that proyectiles and "stores" it like he have picked an item, giving the possibility of throwing the projectile in every direction he could normaly thrown an item whenever he desires, the proyectile would still be doing normal damage ( a samus's full charged beam would be still deadly, as an mario fireball would be still usefull) also, whenever he have actually an item or a projectile stored, when he does confusion he throwns the projectile or the item forward in a "shadowball" trajectory unaffected by gravity, this moves would be great oportunnities making combos setups and mindgames ...
2. Disable, still needs the eye contact but the range is now 1,5 of the former range... (eye contact adds some difficult, but multiplies the coolnes factor), this move its actually pretty good and the slight range improvement would make it simply perfect withouth making it extremly broken...
3. Teleport, just two or three less frames or lag, this subtle improvement would make this speedy move even faster, making it a good move into an excellent move.
4. Shadowball: Nothing, it's just perfect.
5. A A A: even more usless that confusion, this attack should be replaced by anything... and my idea could be that mewtwo cross his armas (solely by the coolnes factor) and spawns several cuts in front of him (like 1,5 or 2 "metwtos" forward), making it a risky attack, but with some tactical applications
6. Up Smash: no a bad move, but it could be even better, the changes would be: a) now mewtwo doesnt have to mantain the attack, and could spawn it and the still moves when the attack is in the air. b) now it makes less damage and knockback, because the moves is now should be used to set up combos and in a defensive way instead of dealing high damage. c) it also have a radius of 1,5 or 2 meters where it changes the gravity subtly towards the center of teh attacks, making teh attack have smalls sucking properties, and more important, screwing a bit the DI of that zone, making it excellent for mind games.
7. Down Smash. a bit more laggy but fairly more powerfull excellent to use in conjuntion with disable or to edgegaurd.
8. general improvemnets: mainly becasue of the ingame status of mewtwo, i think that a bit less of lag in all his attacks (althought the tilts are pretty quick) and more power are a must, to show his blinding speed and insane special attack. also, it shouls maintain his floatiness, but improve the" Fast falling" speed as a way to try to improve his disadventage in being esaily punishable when in air. the weight and the size should be almost unchanged, being his main weak spots...
In synthesis, mewtwo would be more in the quick and powerfull side of the coin than in the heavy and slow side of the coin, also, a lot of trick games and mind games would grant him high potential to bee mastered and simply make the head of your rivals explode as you play... much like mewtwo style anyways...
PS: Wow, what a large post...
2nd PS: What do you think of this mewtwo?
Dilophosaurus Rex
Smash Cadet
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Mewtwo should definately return in Brawl. Not only is he a completely original and popular character, he could also make a really good villain in Subspace Emissary.
He does need a tweaked moveset, though.
Shadow Ball should move straight.
The Psycho Cut idea is a good one for B>.
Teleport is fine.
Disable should really go, though.
I have thought of these ideas for Mewtwo's new Down B:
Light Screen: Mewtwo reflects projectile attacks, similar to Fox's Reflector.
Swift: Mewtwo is surrounded by yellow stars, which are then fired in random directions.
Mist: Mewtwo creates a cloud of mist, which hides Mewtwo from view.
Earthquake: Mewtwo's eyes glow blue, and he makes the ground near him shake, slowing enemies in their tracks.
Endure: Mewtwo uses psychic power to hold him in place when an enemy attack hits him. Mewtwo does not get any knockback from the attack.
I also had some pretty decent ideas for his Final Smash, if i do say so myself:
Psychic: Mewtwo's eyes glow blue, and all opponents are lifted up by psychic power. Mewtwo then sends them flying in a random direction.
Hyper Beam: Mewtwo fires a beam of energy from his hands. During this attack Mewtwo remains in place, and you can use the control stick to aim the beam up or down.
Giga Impact: Mewtwo is surrounded by a glowing ball of energy, and he flies around the stage, ramming into opponents.
Trick Room: Mewtwo slows the stage around him, causing everything on the stage to happen at 1/2th it's original speed. Mewtwo still moves as fast as normal.
He does need a tweaked moveset, though.
Shadow Ball should move straight.
The Psycho Cut idea is a good one for B>.
Teleport is fine.
Disable should really go, though.
I have thought of these ideas for Mewtwo's new Down B:
Light Screen: Mewtwo reflects projectile attacks, similar to Fox's Reflector.
Swift: Mewtwo is surrounded by yellow stars, which are then fired in random directions.
Mist: Mewtwo creates a cloud of mist, which hides Mewtwo from view.
Earthquake: Mewtwo's eyes glow blue, and he makes the ground near him shake, slowing enemies in their tracks.
Endure: Mewtwo uses psychic power to hold him in place when an enemy attack hits him. Mewtwo does not get any knockback from the attack.
I also had some pretty decent ideas for his Final Smash, if i do say so myself:
Psychic: Mewtwo's eyes glow blue, and all opponents are lifted up by psychic power. Mewtwo then sends them flying in a random direction.
Hyper Beam: Mewtwo fires a beam of energy from his hands. During this attack Mewtwo remains in place, and you can use the control stick to aim the beam up or down.
Giga Impact: Mewtwo is surrounded by a glowing ball of energy, and he flies around the stage, ramming into opponents.
Trick Room: Mewtwo slows the stage around him, causing everything on the stage to happen at 1/2th it's original speed. Mewtwo still moves as fast as normal.
Darkpaladin of Chaos
Smash Lord
Why does everyone want Shadow Ball to go straight? I never had a problem with it.
Knyaguy
Smash Lord
Same here, the wobble makes it special.
Infinite Krullen
Smash Journeyman
Yes indeed, thats what makes Shadow ball Shadow ball. Shoot a fully charge in a jump when they are on the ground and many will think it will go over their heads 
MysticKenji
Smash Master
It's only "annoying" to casuals.
For us, it's strategic.
Also, sick FS, FD
For us, it's strategic.
Also, sick FS, FD
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
I agree with this, I used the "wobbing" to my advantage all the time
Collective of Bears
King of Hug Style
Because if it did, it would go much faster.
PsychoIncarnate
The Eternal Will of the Swarm
Shadow ball is a strategic move, not a "Charged Energy" Samus clone attack
Collective of Bears
King of Hug Style
I know that, and I like the wobble, but it following a straight path could greatly improve his offensive game.
MysticKenji
Smash Master
You do realize it could easily still go the same speed if it gets de-wobbled, right?
Collective of Bears
King of Hug Style
True, but it would get sped up either way, wobbly or not.