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The -NEW- Florida 2011 Brawl Power Rankings! Updated 5/10/11!

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[FBC] ESAM

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So...from WHOBO

Red Halberd:
Beat Xaltis
Beat Seibrik

MVD:
Beat ESAM

Seibrik:
Beat Chaz

ESAM:
Beat Red Halberd (PR MM)

That is it, right?
 

gallax

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Esam losing to a +2 Mu(snake) and then to Illlmatic which i told him was a -1 for pikachu but noooooooooo im dumb. I guess maybe now esam may believe the snake to be +1/= and change his mind about peach too.

Good shee halberd. I heard he beat gnes.
 

NickRiddle

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Esam losing to a +2 Mu(snake) and then to Illlmatic which i told him was a -1 for pikachu but noooooooooo im dumb. I guess maybe now esam may believe the snake to be +1/= and change his mind about peach too.

Good shee halberd. I heard he beat gnes.
ESAM SDed vs. MVD, and he didn't ban his auto-ban so he lost to Peach...
Sounds like he's just stupid.
 

CO18

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I am the highest placing Fl whobo player of all time..




OF ALL TIME!

Better luck next year you guys
 

gallax

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Hey so i was thinking about running PR thread for Flawda similar to what Texas does. So starting after the next PR rankings come out i will be taking all the data for who beats who at every tourney and have a ranking system for every single player in florida that competes. I will update this thread EVERY WEEKEND.

This can be separate from these PR's if you guys wish but im definitely doing it.
 

Sensei Seibrik

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im actually all down for that, im removing myself from anything to do with the states PR's. i'm willing to answer questions of future panalists of what i think should happen in a given situation, but otherwise consider me done.
 

GDX

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speaking of state PRs...its about time for dat update

should be an increase of black people with mammypam on the scene
 

DFEAR

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ok i may have been trolling bout being on the pr last time...but THIS time im being for real...i hope >_>
 

Masky

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Hey so i was thinking about running PR thread for Flawda similar to what Texas does. So starting after the next PR rankings come out i will be taking all the data for who beats who at every tourney and have a ranking system for every single player in florida that competes. I will update this thread EVERY WEEKEND.

This can be separate from these PR's if you guys wish but im definitely doing it.
That's basically what Snipa was doing in the 2nd post, except with more frequent updates and the fancy math. It'd be a good way for players to keep track of their progress at a glance I guess.

If you really wanna do it someone can just have a mod give you access to Snipa's post when the PRs are updated. Don't make a separate thread.
 

Xaltis

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Not sure what Gallax means but let me know whats going on.

I think I actually wanna be off the PRs just so next season I can be the PR hunter again.
 

Two-Ell

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Xaltis, Gallax decided that he wants to run a point system like Texas does. In that system, everyone starts at 1600 points and earns/loses points based on who they defeat in tournament. Everyone in the state will be ranked and have points gained or lost.

I was actually talking to FL Melee about it a while ago since they have a similar problem to us in that there's just a massive amount of potential in the state and there are way too many good players for a PR to just have 10 or even 15 players listed.

Here is their PR thread if anyone wants to examine it themselves: http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?t=226443

There are also flaws to the system as the thread states

UTDZac said:
Reasons Your Rating is Wrong

(1) Your rating fluctuates a lot. (uses Magic the Gathering lingo)
Look at your rating over the course of the last year. Has it gone up and down a lot? If it has been steadily going in one direction, it probably means that your rating still hasn't caught up to your current level of skill. However, if it jumps up and down a lot, then your rating probably isn't a very good indicator of skill. Good players can do horribly in tournaments and bad players can win them. This will cause ratings to fluctuate. In higher K-value events, this phenomenon is even more pronounced. For example, I rarely play limited games, and my rating sat at 1625 for 1 whole year while I did not play a single limited match. Later, I played in a 16K tournament, and went 4-0 against 1900 rated players. So my rating went up about 50 points in a single day. Is it because I am really good and should be rated much higher? No - swings this large do not well represent my actual play still. In this case I happened to play against the 4 highly rated players at the tournament, while the rest of the players had similarly poor ratings as my own. Through their drafting mistakes, I somehow wound up with a ridiculous deck they crushed my more-talented opposition.

(2) The average skill of the players in your area can dramatically affect your rating. (uses Magic the Gathering lingo)
Consider the extreme example where all the players at your local tournaments have a 1600 rating, because they have just started playing live tournament magic. However, they are good at the game from playing Wifi, so their play skill is typical of an 1800 player. After this group of players has played against each other for a few dozen tournaments, their ratings would all still be at 1600, despite their skill level. Remember, your rating actually represents your win expectation relative to those around you, not necessarily to the entire magic community.
Despite that though, I think a point system would be great for Florida in both of its games. There's always so many radical changes to the list each update, and the potential of many players are realized throughout seasons making it further difficult to make a list of just 10 people.

:rosalina:

 

Toneh

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I think the texas one is a good idea, lets try it out. They can help us since they've been doing it for awhile.

It'll encourage alot of others to try and work their way up the ladder and see their progress.
 

[FBC] ESAM

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You should ask them for the specific formula.

I think we should have both PRs, not just one or the other if we are going to do the point one.
 

OverLade

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I talked extensively about the PR with Infinity and Espy and I dont think it's a good idea. The weaknesses will be far too polarized in FL.
 

VSC.D-Torr

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I agree with ESAM. We should use both if we implement the point system.

Think of it like sports. There are league standings, which shows teams' statistical status compared to the rest of the league. However, there are analysts who discuss amongst each other about who truly are the strongest teams, taking every possible factor into account to make their judgments.
 

gallax

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I will be implementing their system, but also will be implementing some initial conditions to make sure that average skills are somewhat accounted for.


Which is why im going to ask each region to give me their top 10 players in order. This means top 10 in SFL/CFL/SwampNigs/Gainsville/Tampa/NFL. Send it to me via PM please ASAP. If i have to get in touch with each regions leader then i will, but lets be civil about this. This is not turning into a flame war. Im using these top10 rankings that im getting and using those more like guidelines for the initial conditions.
 

Mampam

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Halzy, why would it be polarized? (Answer for other people, I understand why)
hey ESAM, after FL's performance at WHOBO i think from now on yall need to think about


















































































then yall need to

win here, win there, win win everywhere :awesome::awesome::awesome::awesome:
 
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