The New Counter Game: Read the **** Rules or the Thread Get's Locked

[Niiro]

Spirtomb@Leftovers
Impish/Pressure
252HP/252Def/4Attack
Willowisp
Curse
Protect
Pain Split

 

[WouW]

Xatu @ Leftovers
Calm/Synchronize
252HP/164Def/88SpD
Roost
Night Shade
Refresh
Hidden Power Fighting

Synchronize passes burns, Refresh to fix those burns, Roost if Curse/burn is going to kill me, Night Shade to deal damage and HP Fighting for Normals.

 

[Pink Reaper]

Azumaril@Leichi Berry
Adamant/Huge Power
252Hp/252Atk/4SpDef
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Azua Jet
-Return

101 subs are too good.

 

[c3gill]

Dusclops @ Leftovers
Relaxed/ Pressure
252 HP/ 252 Def / 4 Atk
- Curse
- Rest
- Thunder Punch
- Shadow Ball

Curse, Rest, gg. T punch is if you dont decide to sub.

 

[zrky]

@dusclops

spiritomb@leftovers
bold/pressure
164HP/252def/94speed
-curse
-dark pulse
-faint attack
-rest

I suck at this, so if it doesn't work, sorry

 

[karthik_king]

Azumaril@Leichi Berry
Adamant/Huge Power
252Hp/252Atk/4SpDef
-Substitute
-Focus Punch
-Azua Jet
-Return

101 subs are too good.

lol at AZua Jet


Bastiodon
Leftovers
Relaxed
252 HP / 228 Def / 28 SpD
Spe 0
~ Taunt
~ Metal Burst
~ Curse
~ Earthquake

 

[c3gill]

Karthik that set doesnt work- you switch into a curse, spiritomb outspeeds your taunt and rests, and your dead from the ghost curse. also, even after 3 curses your only hitting Spiritomb for <30%, and as you have no way to heal yourself Curse has you beat.

spiritomb@leftovers
bold/pressure
164HP/252def/94
-curse
-dark pulse
-faint attack
-rest

Hitmonlee @ Life Orb
jolly/ limber
252 Speed / 252 Atk / 4 HP
- foresight
- Earthquake
- Focus Punch
- sucker punch

EDIT- fixed it

 

[zrky]

crap, I know it's late, but the 94 on my spiritomb was for speed

 

[c3gill]

crap, I know it's late, but the 94 on my spiritomb was for speed

I assumed Sp Atk, but it doesnt matter- it still has that Basti beat, and my hitmonlee beats Spiritomb anyway as well, so no harm done

 

[WouW]

vs. Hitmonlee:

Butterfree @ Leftovers
Naughty/Compoundeyes
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Sleep Powder
Aerial Ace
Solar Beam
Hidden Power Ground

Survives two Focus Punches, Sleeps and 2HKOs with Aerial Ace.

 

[Niiro]

vs
Butterfree @ Leftovers
Naughty/Compoundeyes
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Sleep Powder
Aerial Ace
Solar Beam
Hidden Power Ground

Raticate@Focus Sash
Jolly/Guts
252Attack/252Speed/4hp
Sleep Talk
Counter
Crunch
Swords Dance

 

[WouW]

Aggron @ Leftovers
Impish/Rock Head
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Toxic
Metal Burst
Earthquake
Superpower

Takes like no damage from a +6 Crunch, Toxices to eliminate Sash and Superpower OHKOs.

 

[Niiro]

vs Aggron @ Leftovers
Impish/Rock Head
252HP/252Atk/4Def
Toxic
Metal Burst
Earthquake
Superpower

Takes like no damage from a +6 Crunch, Toxices to eliminate Sash and Superpower OHKOs.

Rotom @ Choice Specs
Timid/Levitate
252HP/252Speed/4 Sp Attack
Trick
Rest
Will-o-Wisp
Reflect
lololololololololol

 

[c3gill]

Rotom @ Choice Specs
Timid/Levitate
252HP/252Speed/4 Sp Attack
Trick
Rest
Will-o-Wisp
Reflect

Rotom @ Choice Scarf
Modest/ Levitate
252 Spe / 252 SpAtk / 4 HP
- Trick
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

you cant directly hurt me, and if you trick your still screwed. I can just use Shadowball.

lololololololololol indeed!

 

[Niiro]

vs Rotom @ Choice Scarf
Modest/ Levitate
252 Spe / 252 SpAtk / 4 HP
- Trick
- Rest
- Shadow Ball
- Thunderbolt

Lopunny@ToxicOrb
Adamant/Klutz
252Attack/252HP/4SpDef
Switch-a-roo
Ice Punch
Substitute
Focus Punch

RAH

 

[c3gill]

Ice Punch only does about 25% you can do a max of about 80% to me in the time it takes 3 Thunderbolts to KO you.

Edit- yea thats about right. rechecked the numbers- Rotom wins this one.

 

[Niiro]

whoops. darn. o well.
Absol@Choice Band
Adamant/Pressure
252attack/252speed/4def
Superpower
NightSlash
ZenHeadbutt
SuckerPunch

 

[WouW]

Breaks the choice rule - you can't beat Rotom with Superpower.

Vs. Rotom:

Shiftry @ Life Orb
Timid/Early Bird
252SpA/252Spe/4HP
Dark Pulse
Leaf Storm
Hidden Power Fighting
Nasty Plot

Resists both moves, OHKOs with Dark Pulse.

 

[Hobobloke]

I'll give it a go its my first time though so be gentle

Muk @Black Sludge
Careful/Sticky Hold
252HP/180SpDef/72Def
Poison jab
Curse
Brick Break
Shadow Sneak

 

[WouW]

Golem @ Life Orb
Brave/Sturdy
252Atk/252HP/4Def
Earthquake
Stone Edge
Gyro Ball
Seismic Toss

Eats through you with Earthquake, and with Curse you can't win either.

 

[Hobobloke]

Claydol @Leftovers
Bold/Levitate
252HP/100Def/104SpAtk/52Spe
Calm Mind
Earth Power
Ice Beam
Grass Knot

Tell me you didn't see this coming

 

[WouW]

I totally saw that coming. Golem just doesn't have anything against Claydol.

Absol @ Leftovers
Adamant/Pressure
252Atk/56Spe/200HP
Night Slash
Zen Headbutt
Stone Edge
Sucker Punch

You 3HKO, I outspeed and 2HKO.

 

[c3gill]

Drapion @ Leftovers
Adamant / Battle Armor
252 Def / 252 HP / 4 Atk
Crunch
X- scissor
Earthquake
Cross Poison

outspeeds, and resists( or immune) everything but Stone Edge, which does ~30%. X-Scissor does about 60%, so your 2HKOed

 

[WouW]

Aggron @ Leftovers
Impish/Rock Head
252HP/252Def/4Atk
Magnet Rise
Earthquake
Aerial Ace

Spoiler

(lol?)

Stone Edge

Can take two quakes and Magnet Rise, your other moves literally deal leftovers-able damage.

 

[Cease Tick]

Phione w/ leftovers
Modest/Hydration
252HP/4Def/252SpAtk
Rain Dance
Rest
Surf
Toxic

Stone Edge doesn't 2HKO, I set up Rain dance and kill with Surf.

 

[WouW]

Toxicroak @ Life Orb
Jolly/Dry Skin
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Swords Dance
Cross Chop
Stone Edge
Earthquake

I can just SD and OHKO you.

 

[Hobobloke]

Sandslash @ Life Orb
Adamant/Sand Veil
80HP/252Atk/176Spe
Swords Dance
Earthquake
Stone Edge
X-Scizzor

A SD'ed Cross Chope fails to OHKO then I OHKO you with EQ

 

[Platypus]

Way to paint the line...

Against Sandslash:

Leafeon w/<anti-Bug Berry>
Docile/Leaf Guard
100 Atk./ 110 Def./ 100 Sp. Atk./ 200 Speed
+ Giga Drain
+ Swords Dance
+ X-Scissor
+ Iron Tail
GOGOGO!

 

[Cease Tick]

Camerupt w/ Leftovers
Quiet/Solid Rock
228HP/72SpAtk/208SpDef
-Flamethrower
-Earth Power
-Yawn
-Stone Edge
You fail to 2HKO, even after a Swords Dance. I 1HKO with Flamethrower.

EDIT: Everyone rate this thread 5/5

 

[WouW]

Torkoal @ Leftovers
Relaxed/White Smoke
252HP/252SpD/4Def
Curse
Amnesia
Lava Plume
Hidden Power Dragon

Takes a whopping 8 percent from X-Scissor and Iron Tail, and boosts until the defenses are unimpenetrable and I can just spam Lava Plume to kill you.

*insert four asterisks hiding wise words*

Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
Adamant/Hyper Cutter
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Crabhammer
Crunch
X-Scissor
Swords Dance

 

[Platypus]

Poliwrath laughs at your pitiful crawdad!

Medicham w/Light Ball
Adamant/Pure Power
110 Atk./ 200 Def./ 200 Sp. Def.
+ Hi Jump Kick
+ Psycho Cut
+ Bulk Up
+ Fling
Paralysis much?

 

[Pink Reaper]

Crawdaunt outspeeds you and 2HKO's you with any of its attacks. Your counter fails.

 

[WouW]

Poliwrath laughs at your pitiful crawdad!

After dual STAB and Swords Dance you sometimes just cannot cover everything with one remaining move.

Spoiler

OK, Hidden Power Dragon does cover everything but that's not doing much damage anyway.

 

[c3gill]

Crawdaunt @ Life Orb
Adamant/Hyper Cutter
252Atk/252Spe/4HP
Crabhammer
Crunch
X-Scissor
Swords Dance

Ill do what noone else wants to do, and say the obvious....

Poliwrath @ Life Orb
Adamant / Water Absorb
252 Atk / 136 HP / 120 Def
Substitute
Focus Punch
Ice Punch
Giga Impact

 

[WouW]

Froslass @ Choice Specs
Timid/Snow Cloak
252Spe/252SpA/4HP
Ice Beam
Shadow Ball
Thunderbolt
Trick

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

Camerupt @ Leftoevers
Timid/SolidRock
252hp, 252specialattack, 6specialdefense
LavaPlume
EarthPower
HiddenPowerGrass
Yawn

Immune to Thunderbolt, 3-4 Shadowballs to kill, 3 Icebeams to kill. Trick only increases Camerupt's special attack with the Choice Specs, while Froslass' Leftovers would be burned away by Lava.

Lavaplume is an instant kill, Earthpower deals strong Stab damage as well, HiddenPowerGrass helps cover weaknesses. Yawn is good to shut-down anything that doesn't get a 1 or 2 hit kill (which is almost impossible if it's a Flying type with a Water Attack.)

Random question:What does Unaware do? If it does what I think it does (Ignores an enemy's selfboosts as well as Bibarel's negative upgrades), then why would BiBarrel still be an UU? That one abilitiy seems like he'd be OU material... Or maybe Unaware does something else.....

 

[Niiro]

Mantine @ Damp Rock
Modest/Swift Swim
252HP/252Spattack/4speed
Rain Dance
Thunder
HydroPump
HP GRASS

oh and for unaware:

If a Pokemon with the ability Unaware is the target of an attack, all of the attacker's [Special] Attack boosts are ignored. If a Pokemon with the ability Unaware is attacking, all of the defender's [Special] Defense boosts are ignored. If an Unaware Pokemon is using Punishment, stat boosts still factor into its power. If an Unaware Pokemon hits itself in its confusion, it still keeps its altered Attack and Defense stats.

so yes it ignores positive enemy boosts but it keeps its negative upgrades.

 

[Da-D-Mon-109]

I read what Smogom said, but part of me doesn't understand.... An enemy could Sword Dance 3 times and it's attacks would do the exact same as it used to, while Bibarel could Curse 6 times, giving it 6x the Attack and Defense, but ignoring the Speed decreases? That seems weird. Again, I don't think I understand.

Lanturn@Leftovers
Calm/VoltAbsorb
40hp/136SpecialAttack/252specialDefense/80Speed (I saw this build on Smogon. )
Thunderbolt
Surf
Icebeam
Toxic

I'm pretty sure that Lanturn can pretty much wall absolutely anything you throw at him, and I'm also pretty sure that you're not living long against a Stab 4x Weak Thunderbolt. I'm waiting for an Earthquake to ruin my Lanturn's fun.... or any strong phsyical sweeper that can resist the bolt/beam combo on a Rainy-Day after a poisoning.... "So am I, Still Waiting, For this World To Stop Hating..." I guess I'll have to wait until tomorrow for anyone to counter this pokemon...

Any more info about Unaware would be appreciated. I kinda like my Bibarrel. Curse+IceFang+Waterfall+SuperFang makes him a beast, but I wanna know which ability is better, SwordDance/Barrier increases for Curse, or possibly ignoring the enemy's stat boosts (if that is really how Unaware works).

But seriously, if an enemy Sword Dances, Bibarel's Unaware completely ignores it? They do normal damage?

 

[WouW]

I'd say Simple. But that's just me.

 

[Pink Reaper]

@Lanturn

Ludicolo@Leftovers
Adamant/Swift Swim
252Atk/252Spe/4Hp
-Swords Dance
-Waterfall
-Seed Bomb
-Blizzard

Blizzard for lolz