The Most Controversial Thread on the Site! (Originally the Anti-Lucario/Pro Squirtle)

[DarkKry4]

Lucario looks like the under-fed member of the Blue Man Group, or some sort of drunken derranged ****** child who was beaten by his father. I don't want to play as that.(LOL!! i really dont like Lucario, His design and moves are bland.)

Plus his movie that he's in wasn't released in theaters outside of Japan, nowhere near as popular as the first couple pokemon films that were internationally released into theaters. Popular? Lucrative? More like overrated.(Yes i have noticed some fans do tend to make him overrated saying hes the most unique or popular, i mean hes not all that great)

Hey Jordo!!

 

[Legolastom]

WW Link will not be in the game. His art style clashes with everything else and Link is already in the game. If Link wasn't in the game, I would support WW Link, yet Link is already in the game.

And since when did you decide who got in? don't say your opinions like they are fact. Snake's style clashes with Yoshi's island style... clashes don't matter in this game, and really it isnt the same Link they are completely different.

I don't want another Dr.Mario/Young Link/Pichu disaster, think of the children.

Well this will hardly be like that if you look at all the move sets and such you will see that WW link can be vastly different from the normal Link.

Also, just because a Pokemon has a movie doesn't mean they deserve to be in Brawl.

Pikachu didn't have a movie. The real reason Mewtwo got in was because he was THE Pokemon in the first gen. Everyone wanted him. He was the boss of Pokemon Red/Blue and Pokemon Stadium.

You people always say it like that is the only or main reason why we want him in... it isn't it just helps towards his cause and his popularity.

The main reason Mewtwo got in was because he was basically the villain or main bad guy of the Pokemon franchise.

And Pikachu has had more of a movie than all the other PKMN combined.She/He (Cant remember anymore) has been in every single one and being Ash's main PKMN has played the main role of the good guy for the most part.

And no one laughed at my Grass move set : (

 

[_the_sandman_]

Wow I can't believe some of you have been talking about me the whole day. I'm a really boring person, I'm not that interesting you know. But if some of you view me as a new Ken, well, so be it.

Again with the movies. Lucario's movie really hurts his side of the argument you know. Its a useless crutch for him at this point. Ness, Ice Climbers, Snake, Wario, and Samus never had a movie. They didn't need a movie in order to be popular. They got in on their own merits. Its the games that make a character a classic, not a movie.

Its kind of sad how many people support losers like Lucario. Why don't you guys go to another thread and support a worthwhile character? Ridley, King Dedede, and Sonic can use all of the help they can get. Those types of characters really DESERVE to be in Brawl. It isn't just a pokemon thing with Lucario. Its the entire Brawl list Lucario has to compare with. Are any of you guys really saying that Lucario has more importance than Ridley? You must be delusional if you believe that.

I'm fighting for the whole of the Smash series, not just one character. Lucario just happens to be the worst of them all on these threads.

 

[Kirby knight]

It seems like your avoiding the main question instead trying to divert our attention to other franchies that aren't pokemon.

Another thing you seem to be avoiding is the fact that Pokemon is very in unique in the fact that; there are so many of them; obviously some of the pokemon are going to be held above the rest. When it comes to a Movie it sets pokemon apart from others in the Pokemon series.

Please don't bring up other franchies when it comes to characters. Pokemon is Pokemon it's not Metal Gear, Zelda, Kirby, etc. It's pokemon.

 

[Legolastom]

Teh Ph1r3!

Wow I can't believe some of you have been talking about me the whole day. I'm a really boring person, I'm not that interesting you know. But if some of you view me as a new Ken, well, so be it.

Not really we have been talking about other things most of the time...

Again with the movies. Lucario's movie really hurts his side of the argument you know. Its a useless crutch for him at this point. Ness, Ice Climbers, Snake, Wario, and Samus never had a movie. They didn't need a movie in order to be popular. They got in on their own merits. Its the games that make a character a classic, not a movie.

The only Pokemon that would be popular without the Anime and Films (Which are basically the Anime) would be... the legendaries.

Its kind of sad how many people support losers like Lucario. Why don't you guys go to another thread and support a worthwhile character? Ridley, King Dedede, and Sonic can use all of the help they can get. Those types of characters really DESERVE to be in Brawl. It isn't just a pokemon thing with Lucario. Its the entire Brawl list Lucario has to compare with. Are any of you guys really saying that Lucario has more importance than Ridley? You must be delusional if you believe that.

O wow look your making stuff up again *rolls eyes* we never said he was more important than Ridley we are saying he is the most important out of the Pokemon to make it into Brawl (Bar Jigs and Mew2 of course).

So why dont you STFU! How can you call us losers when you support... PETEY!?

I'm fighting for the whole of the Smash series, not just one character. Lucario just happens to be the worst of them all on these threads.

O look just because you don't like the character thats why isn't it? Yep i thought so, but seriously how can a guy who says that Petey is more important than Bowser JR actually be taken seriously?

He he he i made that my self what do you think? i only started animating yesterday : P and why wont anyone quote my grass move set?

 

[_the_sandman_]

I used to talk about the Pokemon list, but this thread has exploded past that point. Lucario can't compare the the classic/greatest Nintendo characters of all time.

You can't compare Lucario to Mario
You can't compare Lucario to Link
You can't compare Lucario to Samus
You can't compare Lucario to Kirby
You can't compare Lucario to Pikachu

You can't compare Lucario to any of the Newcomers so far, look at Pit, Wario, Zero Samus, Trainer, and Ike

You can't compare Lucario to any other characters that haven't been on the site yet, like King Dedede, Ridley, Sonic, Diddy, Ray, Krystal, Isaac, Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, and Mr. Game and Watch.

Seriously, Lucario can't even compare to these characters.

 

[DarkKry4]

And ANOTHER who judges Lucario mainly on his looks, seriously if you didnt play the game, yet judge a character by his looks and little info you got u officially fail... or are ********, or in rare ocassions both...

Most people on this site immediately liked Ike even though they never even played fire emblem so are you saying they are ********. Its called a double standard. Jordo was right also. You guys need to calm down. You assumed he didnt play the game and you decide bash for really no reason than stating his opinion. He didnt make any attack on anyone so why are you attacking him? Seems pointless. People on here name call too much.

 

[Stryks]

LOL u the new ken?! OMG im so putting that as my screensaver HAHAHA...

btw how about you FINALLY responding to my quote a few pages back?

and conker seriously pikachu doesn't need a movie, hes the mascot >.>

and u say like WW link fights exactly like TP link, why? JUST because of the shield/sword? dude linj doesn't even use the shield, just the sword, and u dont see link and marth fighting exactly the same do u?

 

[RDK]

When it comes down to it, people like Ridley, Diddy, Wolf, Krystal, Sonic, Megaman, Bomberman, and Dedede (I think I have the biggest threads, correct me if I'm wrong) deserve to be in it more than Lucario. But Kaid did point out that Mewtwo vs. Lucario matches would be the pwnzor.

O look just because you don't like the character thats why isn't it? Yep i thought so, but seriously how can a guy who says that Petey is more important than Bowser JR actually be taken seriously?

QFT.

LMAO@Lego's pic. You and your funny pics, Lego. Here's one that's not so funny:

 

[DarkKry4]

Funny thing about this thread!!

More people post here in the Anti Lucario thread than the Lucario thread. It seems all the Lucario fans like to post here.

:embarrass

 

[Legolastom]

LMAO ROLF LOL XD OMG when i saw that pic i couldnt stop laughing for an entire minute (Sound like a lame amount of time but its a lot for a pic thats so small).

Jesus that was so funny... but now onto more serious business *ahem*

You can't compare Lucario to Mario
You can't compare Lucario to Link
You can't compare Lucario to Samus
You can't compare Lucario to Kirby
You can't compare Lucario to Pikachu

You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Mario
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Link
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Samus
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Kirby
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Pikachu

You can't compare Ike to Mario
You can't compare Ike to Link
You can't compare Ike to Samus
You can't compare Ike to Kirby
You can't compare Ike to Pikachu

You can't compare Pit to Mario
You can't compare Pit to Link
You can't compare Pit to Samus
You can't compare Pit to Kirby
You can't compare Pit to Pikachu

You can't compare Wario to Mario
You can't compare Wario to Link
You can't compare Wario to Samus
You can't compare Wario to Kirby
You can't compare Wario to Pikachu

Want me to go on or would you prefer to answer one of Stryk's posts?

 

[Kirby knight]

LMAO ROLF LOL XD OMG when i saw that pic i couldnt stop laughing for an entire minute (Sound like a lame amount of time but its a lot for a pic thats so small).

Jesus that was so funny... but now onto more serious business *ahem*



You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Mario
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Link
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Samus
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Kirby
You can't compare PKMN Trainer to Pikachu

You can't compare Ike to Mario
You can't compare Ike to Link
You can't compare Ike to Samus
You can't compare Ike to Kirby
You can't compare Ike to Pikachu

You can't compare Pit to Mario
You can't compare Pit to Link
You can't compare Pit to Samus
You can't compare Pit to Kirby
You can't compare Pit to Pikachu

You can't compare Wario to Mario
You can't compare Wario to Link
You can't compare Wario to Samus
You can't compare Wario to Kirby
You can't compare Wario to Pikachu

Want me to go on or would you prefer to answer one of Stryk's posts?

^_^, lol. Why doesn't he just answer you guys instead of beating around the bush.

 

[Legolastom]

Grass blade

Up B: Shoots itself from the ground and floats in the breeze
Side B: A great wind blows and causes the blade of grass to slash suddenly in front of it
B: The grass suddenly sharpens as anything that touches it takes damage (Has lag of 1 second)
Down b: The piece of grass go's underground and comes back up with A LOT of force major damage!

TADA!! comments and analysis's : P

 

[Bassoonist]

Maybe it's because he's been proved wrong and doesn't want to admit it.

 

[RDK]

@Knight

Basically, because he doesn't have anything to back up his opinions.

@Lego

Isn't that scary, though? Lol. I would totally main him, though.

Magikarp 4 Brawl

EDIT: LMAO@GRASS BLADE

 

[Legolastom]

Look at my sig : ) and that Grass blade thing just proves that "Anyone or thing in the entire universe could have a move set... and it could likely be unique as well"

 

[RDK]

LMAO....you sig'd it. I want to make your babies.

And here's a moveset for Magikarp:

B: Water Gun
B>: Tackle
B^: Waterfall
BV: Flail Attack

FS: Splash (Normally does absolutely nothing, but has a 30% chance of insta-KOing everyone, including Magikarp. This move is basically Sparta.)

 

[Stryks]

Interesting, seems every time i mention the “answer my other post” thingy he logs off...

he's afraid to admit he's wrong and will continue with his bias arguements...

 

[Legolastom]

LMAO....you sig'd it. I want to make your babies.

And here's a moveset for Magikarp:

B: Water Gun
B>: Tackle
B^: Waterfall
BV: Flail Attack

FS: Splash (Normally does absolutely nothing, but has a 30% chance of insta-KOing everyone, including Magikarp. This move is basically Sparta.)

MEN DON'T MAKE BABIES MEN EAT BABIES!! RERARGHHHH!...

Er... Apart from that show of manliness good move set... now all we need i one for Electrode...

And looks like your right Stryk's...

 

[RDK]

Electrode

B: Self-Destruct
B>: Volt Tackle
B^: Thunder
BV: Spin Attack

FS: Uber-Explosion (Basically like Self-Destruct on steroids.)

While we're at it, wanna make a Feebas moveset? XD Or how about Metapod?

@Stryks

We all know you pwned that argument. He probably just signed off to go throw himself in a grave.

 

[Stryks]

Also remember when he said we can't compare lucario with dedede sonic and others??

BUT he compared bowser jr with krystal saying he would fight too similar like krystal cause they both use long weapons (jr with his brush and krystal with her staff)

he ALSO said brawl us for everyone, YET they should only add 1st gen pkmn for the old school players and ignore the newest gen and the players of that gen...

so add 2 more for the “answer my other post sandman” thingy...

 

[Legolastom]

Caterpie

B: String shot- stuns the enemy but does not damage - can be charged
side B: Evolves into Metapod and uses harden (Then reverts back)
Up B: Evolves into Butterfree and shoots up
down B: Gets stepped on and his Poke-Guts spill causing opponents to slip (Self KO)

F SMASH: Demoncaterpie: Turns into the user "Demoncaterpie" and shoots giant lazer's from his eyes INSTANT KO'ing anyone that gets hit by it.

@Stryk's: And the second point you made was better than the 1st one

 

[RDK]

down B: Gets stepped on and his Poke-Guts spill causing opponents to slip (Self KO)

LMAO....I laughed so hard.

F SMASH: Demoncaterpie: Turns into the user "Demoncaterpie" and shoots giant lazer's from his eyes INSTANT KO'ing anyone that gets hit by it.

You mean Demoncaterpie from Creative Minds?

 

[Legolastom]

Well i don't hang round that area but judging by the "Smash writer" under his user name i guess he does : P but i mainly know him from the artwork emporium and my clan.

Anyways a cornflakes box move set?

 

[RDK]

Cornflakes Box

B: Spoon Attack
B>: Side-of-Box Info
B^: Back-of-Box Promotional Crap
BV: Commence Expiration Date

FS: Lower Cholesterol (self-explanatory; it lowers your cholesterol count)

 

[Legolastom]

XD Now thats a good move set! But your Wii code cracks me the most! XD : P

Think i will go and play some Mega man now...

 

[Conker1]

LOL u the new ken?! OMG im so putting that as my screensaver HAHAHA...

btw how about you FINALLY responding to my quote a few pages back?

and conker seriously pikachu doesn't need a movie, hes the mascot >.>

and u say like WW link fights exactly like TP link, why? JUST because of the shield/sword? dude linj doesn't even use the shield, just the sword, and u dont see link and marth fighting exactly the same do u?

You are ****ing thick skulled you know that?

Link uses a shield and Sword, Marth uses a rapier. There's a difference.

I don't care how different WW Link and Link can fight, they are the same character. We don't need 2 of the same guy in the game. Enough suffered through the tragedy of Dr. Mario. END.

 

[RDK]

@Lego

True, true. I think we've owned Sandman enough for one day. I'll come back tomorrow to see what madness Stryks has cooked up against him.

And I'm going to go and hit up some Bomberman 64 multiplayer madness on Kaillera.

P.S: That's not my real Wii #, lol.

 

[Legolastom]

You are ****ing thick skulled you know that?

Link uses a shield and Sword, Marth uses a rapier. There's a difference.

I don't care how different WW Link and Link can fight, they are the same character. We don't need 2 of the same guy in the game. Enough suffered through the tragedy of Dr. Mario. END.

Seriously what do you have against Stryk's? you stupid ****ing little 7 year old he makes better post than you could ever make so STFU

And he wasn't being serious about Link and Marth he was just using your logic... seriously are you so ******** you couldn't get that?

If DR.Mario wasn't a clone he would be a good addition, just because they look the same doesn't mean they cant be in the same game... i mean even sandman can agree with that... cant he?

**** i hate stupid noob's like you... your ****ing thick skulled you know that?

Night RDK (I know it isn't but its still funny)

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

That would be awesome if it was your real Wii #, RDK.

@Conker1,
WW Link is the "Hero of Winds" whereas Adult Link is the "Hero of Time." Have you even PLAYED Wind Waker? The freakin intro even says that WW Link is NOT the same as Adult Link. They mention how Adult Link lived a long time before Wind Waker. Godd*mn people, don't try to discuss anything you know NOTHING about it besides pictures, a few video clips, and a few words passed along about the gameplay.

@Legol,
I dunno, I agree Doc might have a decent moveset, but I don't think he deserves his own spot on the roster other than clone.

I don't know what the argument is about Link vs Marth, but what I do know is that it sounds stupid, and I'm not touching it.

 

[_the_sandman_]

I used to talk about the Pokemon list, but this thread has exploded past that point. Lucario can't compare the the classic/greatest Nintendo characters of all time.

You can't compare Lucario to Mario
You can't compare Lucario to Link
You can't compare Lucario to Samus
You can't compare Lucario to Kirby
You can't compare Lucario to Pikachu

You can't compare Lucario to any of the Newcomers so far, look at Pit, Wario, Zero Samus, Trainer, and Ike

You can't compare Lucario to any other characters that haven't been on the site yet, like King Dedede, Ridley, Sonic, Diddy, Ray, Krystal, Isaac, Ness, Captain Falcon, Ice Climbers, and Mr. Game and Watch.

Seriously, Lucario can't even compare to these characters.

Read this. PLEASE read this.

Don't just read, think. THINK carefully about it. Don't just post something and say I'm wrong without thinking about it. Give me a valid reason without a movie, why Lucario is more important than ANY of the previously stated characters.

Seriously, please just think about what you are saying about Lucario.

 

[kaid]

We don't have to, because none of the other characters have to.

 

[Johnknight1]

LOL u the new ken?! OMG im so putting that as my screensaver HAHAHA...

btw how about you FINALLY responding to my quote a few pages back?

and conker seriously pikachu doesn't need a movie, hes the mascot >.>

and u say like WW link fights exactly like TP link, why? JUST because of the shield/sword? dude linj doesn't even use the shield, just the sword, and u dont see link and marth fighting exactly the same do u?

You owned him, and complimented WW Link in the same post. Here, take 1,000 cookies!

You are ****ing thick skulled you know that?

Link uses a shield and Sword, Marth uses a rapier. There's a difference.

I don't care how different WW Link and Link can fight, they are the same character. We don't need 2 of the same guy in the game. Enough suffered through the tragedy of Dr. Mario. END.

Ya, they are diffrent characters from diffrent eras. They are two completely diffrent characters, just play both games. They both start their quests from the begining in both games. Plus WW Link's slashes are diffrent, the battle engine is so diffrent, etc. Stop saying their the same characters and play the GAMES, don't just speak biased points without reason. [advice] XD

TP Link has a gale boomerang, bow&arrow, clawshot, WOLF FORM, MIDNA, [okay probably not wolf form and midna in brawl as one character] spinner, ball&chain, hylian shield, wand thingy that controls statues, another clawshot, magic armor etc.

WW Link has a grapple hook, deku leaf, automatic boomerang, bow&arrow [with normal, ice, fire, and light arrows], mirror shield, hookshot, skull hammer, magic armor, etc. Don't make me go further! XD

That would be awesome if it was your real Wii #, RDK.

@Conker1,
WW Link is the "Hero of Winds" whereas Adult Link is the "Hero of Time." Have you even PLAYED Wind Waker? The freakin intro even says that WW Link is NOT the same as Adult Link. They mention how Adult Link lived a long time before Wind Waker. Godd*mn people, don't try to discuss anything you know NOTHING about it besides pictures, a few video clips, and a few words passed along about the gameplay.

@Legol,
I dunno, I agree Doc might have a decent moveset, but I don't think he deserves his own spot on the roster other than clone.

I don't know what the argument is about Link vs Marth, but what I do know is that it sounds stupid, and I'm not touching it.

And another day, another awsome person [with the sig I still love! ]. You get 1,000 cookies as well! ...though Doc should be a alternate Mario outfit.

And since we're all making movesets, it's time to watch Blastoise own!

B: Hydro Pump
up B: Mega Punch!!!
down B: Mega Kick
<B>: Ice BEAM!

Other notes: Shield is his shell! XD

and if a Pokemon Trainer can fit in, why can't Lucario=??? Seriously, look on the Lucario thread, look at ALL THE MOVESETS MADE, and you'll see Lucario can work. So why don't you READ AND THINK!

 

[kaid]

Because his hate blinds him.

 

[RDK]

Yesssss......I can feel your hate, young Sandwalker.....

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

Thank you JohnKnight for your support of WW Link, and your compliment of my sig! teehee.

BUT, I cannot agree on Lucario. I will agree he could have a unique moveset, Sakurai has proven it time and time again that anyone can have a decent moveset (racecar/arwing pilot, princess who doesnt fight but gets an italian guy to do the fighting for her, etc etc), I just don't like him.
Actually, it's not all that. I think the pokemon series went downhill after the second generation. They're just milking it now, I mean, a DNA pokemon? come on! he's a few lines connected to a head for crying out loud!

Sakurai clearly has love for the original 151. And the original 151 deserve it.

 

[kaid]

Thank you JohnKnight for your support of WW Link, and your compliment of my sig! teehee.

BUT, I cannot agree on Lucario. I will agree he could have a unique moveset, Sakurai has proven it time and time again that anyone can have a decent moveset (racecar/arwing pilot, princess who doesnt fight but gets an italian guy to do the fighting for her, etc etc), I just don't like him.
Actually, it's not all that. I think the pokemon series went downhill after the second generation. They're just milking it now, I mean, a DNA pokemon? come on! he's a few lines connected to a head for crying out loud!

Sakurai clearly has love for the original 151. And the original 151 deserve it.

If you can, torrent the japaneese version of Lucario's movie. It's one of the few highlights of the newer gens.

 

[Kirby knight]

Somewhat unrelated, I liked all the generations of pokemon except for RSE. for some reason it just felt rushed to me.

 

[_the_sandman_]

I've been repeating myself over and over again on this thread....

So I'm going to ask one more time, give me one good way in which he is important to the franchise.

No. One way in which he is necessary to the franchise! Unless you answer this question I refuse to answer any of yours.

 

[Kabyk-Greenmyst]

If you can, torrent the japaneese version of Lucario's movie. It's one of the few highlights of the newer gens.

I watched it a long time ago....from a sig similar to yours actually.....in a thread about Lucario being in brawl........
....
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Did you ever have the movie in your sig Kaid?