The Most Controversial Thread on the Site! (Originally the Anti-Lucario/Pro Squirtle)

[DarkKry4]

1) Dont double post

and

2) How is it a joke? what if I put squirtle, sonic, petey or any other character u guys want in brawl? then it wouldnt be a joke right it would be offensive >.>

Fact of the matter is sandman hasnt even responded to what I said, he knows he burned himself and doesnt want to admit it, so until then evey time he reappears im gonna quote that until he responds...

I didnt post the same thing twice. and...

Talk about obsessive but if i wanna get my point across i'd probably do the same thing i guess.

 

[_the_sandman_]

Atticus is glad to see every likes it, and he's even happier to see how angry Stryks is!

 

[Stryks]

I aint angry, I just find it funny how u dont respond to my post, oh here it is again:

The other thing is he gives biased opinions:

Bowser jr is a filler in every mario game, but they should add petey...

He said Black knight is generic and shouldnt be added, hes refering to the name and status, then I say what about Pokemon trainer, isnt HE generic? and isnt an evil king (meaning ashnard) a generic role?

He ignores that and then He says they shouldnt add a character without showing facial expressions, meaning no Black knight, then I say what about samus? he ignores it and then says theres too MANY no expressions characters, which are just GAW and samus... how is that too many?

They shouldnt add bowser jr cause a father shouldnt fight his son, then I go: but mario and bowser can team up to take down peach, ganondorf and zelda can join to take down link, and so on, meaning that doesnt matter it smash...

He also goes that the character added will be from a single game, e.x. Zelda characters will only be TP characters... thus WW link cant get it due to his theory, which is BS... BUT he wants diddy even tough he didnt apepar in jungle beat, meaning his just prefering characters, his theory fails and everything he says is bias...

He then says they shouldnt add megaman cause hes blue, so? theres already too many human characters, and were BOUDN to get more....

He says we should add ryu instead, even tough capcom/megaman has more games, was part of the NES era like ryu, continues to appear in nintendo consoles and is the 2nd most wanted 3rd party, but STILL wants Ryu...

THEN he says they should add Ryu cause there isnt a REAL ninja, I say we dont have ONE FULL ROBOT in the game, but u want ANOTHER ninja?

He then says brawl will be diferent from melee, saying theyre wont be clones, yet says bowser jr would be to identical to bowser and krystal if he has the paintbrush, not only does he fails because what he said in the 1st place, but since he wants another ninja, hes going against his OWN words of brawl being diferent...

Sandman fails...

If u keep ignoring it that means u have run out of "facts" and dont know what to do, meaning u have indeed fail, point is ur burned urself multiple times and dont admit it, and that along is victory for me...


also I snake was in a fighting game BEFORE his apeparance in the 1st trailer of brawl, meaning megaman can still get in, again u fail...

 

[_the_sandman_]

I did, here's my response to it.

 

[Bassoonist]

Okay, seriously... That's not funny and it didn't disprove a thing Stryks said.

 

[Stryks]

Sandman u fail, what u got nothing else to say but a mediocre drawing? I mean a fart joke? what are you 5? seriously how about some REAL debate or are u afraid ull burned yourself for the 10th time...

 

[Salaad]

I must add that everyone's theory about a character not being in Brawl is wrong. Who the **** are you to judge who will get in or not?

Stryks FTW.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Sandman that was pretty lame.

 

[Stryks]

Lol he left, hes not only a pathetic debater hes a coward, im so quoting what everyone said and my other post next time hes online...

 

[StevenM]

Does anyone have any GOOD reasons to keep Lucario in Brawl as a playable character?

 

[_the_sandman_]

Relax people. I'm just spending the day enjoying Smash bros 64 and Melee with my friends. I don't have time to be on the boards all day. Just be glad Atticus took the time to draw that wonderful picture for you all to see.

 

[Salaad]

Stryks and Andrew14j FTW. I love comming to this thread to see you guys own it up.

 

[Legolastom]

You know when you first look at that comic it looks like something else...

*Awkward silence*

Anyways seeing as you made a picture (Well you didn't someone else did) i might as well make a comic...

O look! there it is...

 

[Stryks]

Hey how about instead of ignoring and posting absolute crap every now and then, u put ONE good post responding to what I said? admit it u burned urself and u got a pathetic drawing to say:
HERES MY EXCUSE NENIRNENIRNENIR!

u act like a kid, u have bias and stupid reasonings and u think fart jokes will win people over... U FAIL...

 

[ylink_underestimted]

sandman cant admit hes pwnd. thats a bit...embarassing.
DarkKry: double posting isnt necessarily posting the same thing twice. it can mean posting after your recent post, so just press the edit button.

 

[Bassoonist]

Relax people. I'm just spending the day enjoying Smash bros 64 and Melee with my friends. I don't have time to be on the boards all day. Just be glad Atticus took the time to draw that wonderful picture for you all to see.

That gives you no excuse to completely ignore people's debates against you and post stupid pictures.

My god you even ignored my arguments a while back, it's getting frustrating.

 

[Conker1]

That Lucario drawing is pretty funny

And Stryks....shut up.

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Does anyone have any GOOD reasons to keep Lucario in Brawl as a playable character?

He's popular
He's a fighting/steel type
He has a unique fighting style
He has Aura and close combat attacks
He is popular in the Anime
He has his own movie
He represents the 4th Generation

 

[Legolastom]

I have calmed down now so i have no need to be so violent before i edited this post.

But seriously STFU you little 7 year old.

 

[Stryks]

Yeah connker Ill do that as soon as he admits he been pwned, burned and completely hmiliated, let me guess u find the pic funny cause its lucario huh? check lego's comic, it has violence but its squirtle being beat! OMG are you criying?!

again if ur like ur mighty sandman that wont respond to his stupid self-burnage then dont bother posting unless the post is intelligent debating...

 

[ihatemybrother]

Squirtle is going to be in brawl, as part of the pokemon trainer. I really doubt that he can be his own character too. I stopped playing Pokemon after yellow, so I don't care about Lucario. I would like to see Megaman in it. I really enjoyed Megaman 8 for Ps1. Diddy would be awesome, he's great in Mario Baseball and I think that he would be great in Brawl. His save could be a variation of his defencive special in Mario Tennis.

 

[Stryks]

Thats the thing, those that dont play a certain game dont watn a character from that game in brawl, sandman hasnt played WW nor P&D yet he says WW link and Lucario WONT (instead of shouldnt) be in brawl...

I say this to sandman and to everyone here:
WHAT GIVES YOU RIGHT TO JUDGE A CHARACTER WITHOUT KNOWING HIM/HER AND HIS/HER GAME??

 

[Conker1]

Yeah connker Ill do that as soon as he admits he been pwned, burned and completely hmiliated, let me guess u find the pic funny cause its lucario huh? check lego's comic, it has violence but its squirtle being beat! OMG are you criying?!

again if ur like ur mighty sandman that wont respond to his stupid self-burnage then dont bother posting unless the post is intelligent debating...

12 year olds shouldn't be allowed on the internet.

Seriously though, calm the **** down.

I've played WW and I don't want Wind Waker Link because I don't want 2 Links in the game.

I haven't played Pokemon Pearl or Diamond but I don't need to, I don't like Lucario's design. He looks stupid, so I don't want him in.

 

[_the_sandman_]

Hmm... you say my logic fails, yet your sense of humor fails.

While some of you are on these boards, getting flustered over a drawing, I'm out with my friends playing some Smash, Starfox, Custom Robo, Strikers, and various other games. I just conveniently have a computer in my basement so I can keep an eye on some of you.

You say I'm coward, yet many of you gang up on me. I think it takes some balls to show that comic knowing how you all would overreact to it.

I'll respond to some of you later, I don't have as much free time as you do Stryks. And if you need more reasons, there are 90 pages here for you to look at.

 

[StevenM]

Relax people. I'm just spending the day enjoying Smash bros 64 and Melee with my friends. I don't have time to be on the boards all day. Just be glad Atticus took the time to draw that wonderful picture for you all to see.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/internet-argument-lose.php?page=3

He's popular

So's Deoxys. =/

He's a fighting/steel type

Great, so he can get owned by Mewtwo.

In all seriousness, I'm not totally convinced that the type differences will matter much in Brawl... unless suddenly people are double-triple weak to certain attacks?

"Solid Snake used ROHKET LAUNCHAIR on Pikachu!
"It's Super Effective!"

...who knows. Would be rather cool.

He has a unique fighting style

Fair enough. Might make the character difficult for beginners to use, who knows. Unique idea though, would be worth a shot.

He has Aura and close combat attacks

I may as well ask what the hell Aura means. As for CQC.... SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!

He is popular in the Anime

So's Ash, but you don't see him... ah, forget it.

He has his own movie

Doesn't Manaphy have his own movie as well? "PokeMon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea"?

Can't say that strikes terror into my heart. Maybe he'll be a PokeBall summon.

He represents the 4th Generation

http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/new_pictures

Some choice options there, methinks. I dunno.

I say this to sandman and to everyone here:
WHAT GIVES YOU RIGHT TO JUDGE A CHARACTER WITHOUT KNOWING HIM/HER AND HIS/HER GAME??

The same right you have to judge a forum member without knowing anything about them besides their posts.

 

[Bassoonist]

Obviously you have just as much free time if you're playing video games.

I would gladly read those 90 pages again, but your arguments have been proved wrong throughout all of them.

 

[Kunitsuna]

Hmm... you say my logic fails, yet your sense of humor fails.

While some of you are on these boards, getting flustered over a drawing, I'm out with my friends playing some Smash, Starfox, Custom Robo, Strikers, and various other games. I just conveniently have a computer in my basement so I can keep an eye on some of you.

You say I'm coward, yet many of you gang up on me. I think it takes some balls to show that comic knowing how you all would overreact to it.

I'll respond to some of you later, I don't have as much free time as you do Stryks. And if you need more reasons, there are 90 pages here for you to look at.

ITT: people attempt to prove they have a life.

Honestly, this topic is gold.

 

[DarkKry4]

Jiggs will probably wont return, in kirbys profile it says hes the only character from melee to not change much... how much can they possibly change about jiggly? also Sakurai always planned to add Pit, but placed Jiggly instead, according to a rumor I heard, if its true, now tha pits here why keep her?(Cause she has smash fans and is still popular among the pkmn fans, not to mention unique gameplay)

I see the roster like this:

Pikachu - confirmed
Trainer - confirmed
Mew2 - sakurai wanted him in 64, added him in melee, im sure he'll reddem (sp?) himself and make him WAY better...
Munchlax - mascot of the 4th gen
Lucario - nintendo has shown some type of importance for this character, was one if not THE 1st character they revealed from the 4th gen and has his own movie even tough hes not legendary...(That is way too much)(Your list doesnt seem to take up that many slots but creating that many movesets is way too much for Brawl so having both Munchlax and Lucario at the same time isnt likely in Brawl, its either one or the other)

I wouldnt "cry" like darkkry says(cause big girls dont cryyy!!!), since I dont really care about lucario(Then why is he on your trainer card), but like I said before, Ill defend any character that somone bashes like saying "X CHARACTER WONT BE IN BRAWL CAUSE OF MY THEORY!!" Saying that like its already confirmed is which it isnt is what pisses me off, and btw I pretty much took down everything sandman said in the last page...(yep saw it and yes you were right on some things i give you that)

Just wanted to do something Black/Light would do!

 

[Pluvia's other account]

I've never played a Mega Man game, but I want him in.
I've never played a Metroid game, but I want Ridley in.
I'd never seen the movie, or played D/P, but I still wanted Lucario in.
I've never played a Fire Emblem game, but I want Fire Emblem characters in.
I've never play any of Ness or Lucas' games, but I want them in.
I've never played a Starfox game, but I want Wolf O' Donnell in.
I've never played a G&W game, but I want him in.
I've never played an Ice Climbers game, but I want them in.

So, "Because I never got off my arse to research", Is a really lame excuse..

 

[Stryks]

Sandman:

NO ONE IS GANGING UP ON YOU.

I give you this post (read it for once):

The other thing is he gives biased opinions:

Bowser jr is a filler in every mario game, but they should add petey...

He said Black knight is generic and shouldnt be added, hes refering to the name and status, then I say what about Pokemon trainer, isnt HE generic? and isnt an evil king (meaning ashnard) a generic role?

He ignores that and then He says they shouldnt add a character without showing facial expressions, meaning no Black knight, then I say what about samus? he ignores it and then says theres too MANY no expressions characters, which are just GAW and samus... how is that too many?

They shouldnt add bowser jr cause a father shouldnt fight his son, then I go: but mario and bowser can team up to take down peach, ganondorf and zelda can join to take down link, and so on, meaning that doesnt matter it smash...

He also goes that the character added will be from a single game, e.x. Zelda characters will only be TP characters... thus WW link cant get it due to his theory, which is BS... BUT he wants diddy even tough he didnt apepar in jungle beat, meaning his just prefering characters, his theory fails and everything he says is bias...

He then says they shouldnt add megaman cause hes blue, so? theres already too many human characters, and were BOUDN to get more....

He says we should add ryu instead, even tough capcom/megaman has more games, was part of the NES era like ryu, continues to appear in nintendo consoles and is the 2nd most wanted 3rd party, but STILL wants Ryu...

THEN he says they should add Ryu cause there isnt a REAL ninja, I say we dont have ONE FULL ROBOT in the game, but u want ANOTHER ninja?

He then says brawl will be diferent from melee, saying theyre wont be clones, yet says bowser jr would be to identical to bowser and krystal if he has the paintbrush, not only does he fails because what he said in the 1st place, but since he wants another ninja, hes going against his OWN words of brawl being diferent...

Sandman fails...

and u ignore it and then say:
heres my answer! A FART ON LUCARIOS FACE HAHA I PWN YOU!

then people start saying ur inmature and that u indeed fail for not acepting u have burned urself, that the only thing theyre doning, they aint flaming or anything, theyre just saying u dont acept ur loss...

Ok so let me get this straight, u DONT have free time yet ur playing videogames with friends... umm u burn urself AGAIN? if it were chores or family visiting ok but ur saying:

I dont have free time like you cause im playing videogames...

Since when is playing videogames meaning u dont got free time?

oh and a second time in case u missed it AGAIN:

The other thing is he gives biased opinions:

Bowser jr is a filler in every mario game, but they should add petey...

He said Black knight is generic and shouldnt be added, hes refering to the name and status, then I say what about Pokemon trainer, isnt HE generic? and isnt an evil king (meaning ashnard) a generic role?

He ignores that and then He says they shouldnt add a character without showing facial expressions, meaning no Black knight, then I say what about samus? he ignores it and then says theres too MANY no expressions characters, which are just GAW and samus... how is that too many?

They shouldnt add bowser jr cause a father shouldnt fight his son, then I go: but mario and bowser can team up to take down peach, ganondorf and zelda can join to take down link, and so on, meaning that doesnt matter it smash...

He also goes that the character added will be from a single game, e.x. Zelda characters will only be TP characters... thus WW link cant get it due to his theory, which is BS... BUT he wants diddy even tough he didnt apepar in jungle beat, meaning his just prefering characters, his theory fails and everything he says is bias...

He then says they shouldnt add megaman cause hes blue, so? theres already too many human characters, and were BOUDN to get more....

He says we should add ryu instead, even tough capcom/megaman has more games, was part of the NES era like ryu, continues to appear in nintendo consoles and is the 2nd most wanted 3rd party, but STILL wants Ryu...

THEN he says they should add Ryu cause there isnt a REAL ninja, I say we dont have ONE FULL ROBOT in the game, but u want ANOTHER ninja?

He then says brawl will be diferent from melee, saying theyre wont be clones, yet says bowser jr would be to identical to bowser and krystal if he has the paintbrush, not only does he fails because what he said in the 1st place, but since he wants another ninja, hes going against his OWN words of brawl being diferent...

Sandman fails...

I cant wait for u to finally respond, I can expect like 3self burnages with one post alone from you XD

 

[Salaad]

You guys are all saying that so and so character won't/shouldn't be in Brawl. Why? because YOU think so. Guess what, the world doesn't revolve around you.

"I dun want lookareo in brahwl bcuz he looks stoopid." No, YOU think he looks stupid.
"I dun wat WW leenk bcuz I dun want another leenk." I want another Link.


Look at different viewpoints and then say something.

 

[Legolastom]

Hmm... you say my logic fails, yet your sense of humor fails.

Um... if you where talking to me (Because no one else was making jokes apart from you) i can quite easily say the same about you and your (Even worse) fart jokes.

While some of you are on these boards, getting flustered over a drawing, I'm out with my friends playing some Smash, Starfox, Custom Robo, Strikers, and various other games. I just conveniently have a computer in my basement so I can keep an eye on some of you.

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/internet-argument-lose.php?page=3 someone putting up the link to this wasn't included in the guide to gracefully losing an argument.

You say I'm coward, yet many of you gang up on me. I think it takes some balls to show that comic knowing how you all would overreact to it.

That wasn't a comic and remember the time that you all where ganging up on Stryk's and such pages back... and no it doesn't really take that much courage stop trying to make your self sound better,

I'll respond to some of you later, I don't have as much free time as you do Stryks. And if you need more reasons, there are 90 pages here for you to look at.

Yes and i have read most of those pages and god if i read them again im gonna ****ing explode from all those stupid arguments you posted.

 

[Stryks]

at darkkry:

I have lucario on my trainer card cause I find him interesting, but wont cry if hes not a PC, besides I just added him for fun since I wanted a 4th gen...

Pluvia:

Theres a diference between wanting a charater from a game u havent played, and judging a character based on what little u know for its chances being in brawl or becoming a clone...

I want mach rider in but never played his games, I know by facts he can be unique and he was supposedly in the beta version of melee, but other people who never played him just look at him and go: OMG HE WULD B A FALCNO CLON CAUSE THEYR BOT BUFFED N RIDE FUTURE ISTIC VEHICLES!!1!11one

thats being unfair, not knowing a character yet u say he would turn out some way with what little info he has...

 

[Pluvia's other account]

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/internet-argument-lose.php?page=3



So's Deoxys. =/



Great, so he can get owned by Mewtwo.

In all seriousness, I'm not totally convinced that the type differences will matter much in Brawl... unless suddenly people are double-triple weak to certain attacks?

"Solid Snake used ROHKET LAUNCHAIR on Pikachu!
"It's Super Effective!"

...who knows. Would be rather cool.



Fair enough. Might make the character difficult for beginners to use, who knows. Unique idea though, would be worth a shot.



I may as well ask what the hell Aura means. As for CQC.... SNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAKE!!



So's Ash, but you don't see him... ah, forget it.



Doesn't Manaphy have his own movie as well? "PokeMon Ranger and the Temple of the Sea"?

Can't say that strikes terror into my heart. Maybe he'll be a PokeBall summon.



http://pokemon.marriland.com/diamond_pearl/new_pictures

Some choice options there, methinks. I dunno.



The same right you have to judge a forum member without knowing anything about them besides their posts.

Deoxy's is a third gen Pokeball Pokemon
His fighting type is just an added bonus
His Aura is his Chi
Isn't Mewtwo popular in the Anime too? And Pikachu? And Jigglypuff? And, to a lesser extent, Pichu?
Doesn't Mewtwo have his own movie aswell?
A popular 4th Gen choice. A.K.A Lucario

Unless you want to fight as Luxio..

 

[Pluvia's other account]

at darkkry:

I have lucario on my trainer card cause I find him interesting, but wont cry if hes not a PC, besides I just added him for fun since I wanted a 4th gen...

Pluvia:

Theres a diference between wanting a charater from a game u havent played, and judging a character based on what little u know for its chances being in brawl or becoming a clone...

I want mach rider in but never played his games, I know by facts he can be unique and he was supposedly in the beta version of melee, but other people who never played him just look at him and go: OMG HE WULD B A FALCNO CLON CAUSE THEYR BOT BUFFED N RIDE FUTURE ISTIC VEHICLES!!1!11one

thats being unfair, not knowing a character yet u say he would turn out some way with what little info he has...

I agree, I don't judge characters if I know nothing about them. So I won't be spouting out things like "OMG! I've never played that game, so that characters going to be crap and unoriginal! Plus he looks funny and smells bad!"

 

[StevenM]

http://www.somethingawful.com/d/news/internet-argument-lose.php?page=3 someone putting up the link to this wasn't included in the guide to gracefully losing an argument.

...isn't that the link I just posted a few minutes ago? =/

Deoxy's is a third gen Pokeball Pokemon

Hey, you said Lucario should be in because he's a popular PokeMon. I said Deoxys is popular too, but he's a summon. Charizard is popular as well, but he was a PokeBall summon from 64 and Melee. Not in Brawl, obviously, so yeah.

His fighting type is just an added bonus

So, there's no real point in bringing it up? Meh.

His Aura is his Chi

Oh, Chi. So basically concentrating your inner energy into different attacks?

Isn't Mewtwo popular in the Anime too? And Pikachu? And Jigglypuff? And, to a lesser extent, Pichu?

So's Psyduck (not featured on Smash), and Wobbuffet (PokeBall), Piplup (no sign yet, 4th gen PKMN), and Meowth (PokeBall).

Doesn't Mewtwo have his own movie aswell?

And guess what? So do the Unown, and Entei! Who get PokeBall summons. And the Legendary Birds! Who are also PokeBall summons. Latios as well, IIRC. I'm not sure if we've seen that one yet. Oh! Oh! Deoxys! Wait...

...you can tell where I'm going with this. =/

A popular 4th Gen choice. A.K.A Lucario

Unless you want to fight as Luxio..

Hell, no. Luxray's where its at.

 

[Stryks]

Thats exactly what sandman is doing to WW link and lucario, now you see why his reasonings make 0 sense...
@steven M:

Theyre not gonna add entei or the legendary birds playable, cause of their humongous size, tough lucario fits the bill in size, and actually has a voice like mewtwo, just like saying that last part XD

 

[DarkKry4]

I agree, I don't judge characters if I know nothing about them. So I won't be spouting out things like "OMG! I've never played that game, so that characters going to be crap and unoriginal! Plus he looks funny and smells bad!"

LOL!! how does a video game character smell anyway.

 

[Stryks]

Tell that to wario darkkry XD

 

[Pluvia's other account]

Thats exactly what sandman is doing to WW link and lucario, now you see why his reasonings make 0 sense...
@steven M:

Theyre not gonna add entei or the legendary birds playable, cause of their humongous size, tough lucario fits the bill in size, and actually has a voice like mewtwo, just like saying that last part XD

..And he's bipedal!

(No offence Ivysaur)