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Is her hitbox any smaller or just the model?
It could very well be that Daisy was made an echo entirely for her personality, and they couldn't justify making any major changes to the moveset to add to playtesting.
I suppose that's possible. It wouldn't be too big of a deal, I'd use both. I'd still like some differences
you're onto somethin there.. besides i can't think of anything significant that would change anyways probably other than the different items for her fsmash
Thank you!
you have the game?
If that's true, that'd be the first difference someone could actually tell us here lol.
Yes, but that's off-topic.
if you've already checked the damage and sweet spots how about the fall speed and air speed.
Startups a lot faster than Peach's and deals 14.4%. KOes Mario at 105% on omega ledge in training. It has no sourspot and has a downwards angle so it's better on the air, specially when hovering right off the ground. The landing lag is horrible so watch out.Can you talk about the side-b then?
Also, if you find anything else, let us know
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Thanks. just to make sure tho, you do know startup is faster on the ground right? That would make a difference in testing.
peach's is probably weaker is daisy has the weaker up smash.
Both SideB do the same damage of 14.4%. I really thought Peach Bomber was slower! Maybe from previous Smash games.
That is good news to me, so there's hope that she'll get the
treatment someday.
and you're sure daisy's up smash is weaker?
Yes, I cna get a video of this if needed. Only the sideways hitboxes are weaker and it's stronger against enemies above you except for the absolute sweetspot, where Peach's wins again.
she must have better turnip odds then.
I actually tried this a while ago with Peach. It did not spike them at close or far distance. Don't think it's possible. I have no idea why it actually spikes them on-stage. I wonder if it works on enemies jumping near the ledge (not grabbing it).
maybe the day one patch will change something.
Thanks for checking. My theory is that the move just sends you up and isn't a spike. The new rules of not teching might apply to any grounded "send up launching move" and not just spikes.
It makes the unique spike sound effect! Can't be teched anyways. Think this gives it more hitstun.
what about the other new echo's besides ken are there any differences.
There's just Richter and Dark Samus. We already know Chrom is the lucina of roy, besides up-b.
Go to their respective threads, I've talked about Ken and Chrom already. Haven't tried Dark Samus though.
There is probably a difference with the turnips, but it's hard to test. Someone told me Daisy pulls the turnip faster but I haven't confirmed it. From pulling about 30 turnips on each princess, I got more of the powerful =.= faced ones with Peach, but doubt this is a good enough sample.
I doubt it makes any difference whatsoever. We dont even know for sure if fair is affected much at all, too.
rip, I just wanted Daisy to have her own tier list spot but that won't be the case most likely. Still, they nailed it the height difference and that's what matters.
I'll still hold out for more
Well, doesnt bother me if more people use peach, that'll make using daisy that much special ;p
I would like to see a video to be honest. Its not that I dont beleive you (Usmash hitboxes did seem weird) but I would like to see directly how they're different.
