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memorizing the pikmin line is pretty hard, imo. and then if you ever get off stage you've lost your stock. /exaggeration
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The Luigi Social Thread
- Thread starter hippiedude92
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imo on the olimar mu is this
in short this is just what shuts us down
-olimar's grab range
-olimar's easy to set up camp game with pikmen and grab
-olimar is just faster than luigi due to luigi's floatyness
now what could help, but lol this would have to be the ultimate robot luigi or something.
- a luigi that could predict olimar's grabs and jab or fireball before getting grabbed to break the grab since olimar doesn't have any grab armor.
- good understanding of cyclone and it's uses in breaking olimar's camp game
-perfect nair spacing to stop upsmashes and olimar's other moves
only then I think luigi would win in this mu. I could be missing more to this, but when I play the mus the grabs are the only thing that get to me which led to upsmash. pikmen? oh you mean that thing that flew over my head when I ducked? or that thing I just killed with fair to dair?
I think the same applies to diddy kong. If there was a luigi that could catch a majority bananas, items, etc while on the ground and the air. Like they completely understood grab items in the air and how it works frame wise and stuff. Also a luigi that could instant toss diddy's bananas would be useless in the mu.
in short this is just what shuts us down
-olimar's grab range
-olimar's easy to set up camp game with pikmen and grab
-olimar is just faster than luigi due to luigi's floatyness
now what could help, but lol this would have to be the ultimate robot luigi or something.
- a luigi that could predict olimar's grabs and jab or fireball before getting grabbed to break the grab since olimar doesn't have any grab armor.
- good understanding of cyclone and it's uses in breaking olimar's camp game
-perfect nair spacing to stop upsmashes and olimar's other moves
only then I think luigi would win in this mu. I could be missing more to this, but when I play the mus the grabs are the only thing that get to me which led to upsmash. pikmen? oh you mean that thing that flew over my head when I ducked? or that thing I just killed with fair to dair?
I think the same applies to diddy kong. If there was a luigi that could catch a majority bananas, items, etc while on the ground and the air. Like they completely understood grab items in the air and how it works frame wise and stuff. Also a luigi that could instant toss diddy's bananas would be useless in the mu.
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the thing about oli's grab is that it comes out on like... the second or third frame.
so you'd have to be super freaking amazing at fireballing before the grab.
so you'd have to be super freaking amazing at fireballing before the grab.
boss8
Smash Hero
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Sorry had the number wrong
so like thanks to what I heard from Will about how san downloads his college books as PDFs instead of buying them. I got 4 books already as pdfs. One of them I got by making a scribd account and uploading the luigi mu thread info to get a preminum user account and got one of the books. lol
mrconcon
Smash Cadet
I'm thinking up of putting together new set-ups/ATs in a video series (not too sure if they're new but I'll showcase some that I find really useful, including an easy kill-set up vs Snake), gonna need some recorders and testers. Also can someone add me back to the skype group? lol cheers.
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I will if you tell me what song is in that video.
ThunderSt0rm
Smash Champion
I can help record if you need me to.
mrconcon
Smash Cadet
I will if you tell me what song is in that video.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uLMH4bewgEc
Also, I'm debating about making these videos private view only, so we have an advantage to these techniques when we utilize them in tournament, and catch other players off-guard. Any input from others on this would be great.
Each video will probably have atleast 1-2 techs/set-ups.
ThunderSt0rm
Smash Champion
It's an interesting idea, but it wouldn't help luigi mains just starting out unless they knew who to talk to about watching the videos.
Plus people are sure to eventually find out about the ATs and whatnot if we use them enough in tourney.
Plus people are sure to eventually find out about the ATs and whatnot if we use them enough in tourney.
yoshq
Smash Master
Actually, I would venture that people don't ****ing pay attention to that **** that closely. There are plenty AT's that we don't know about other characters. Most people still ooh and ahh when I do that little taunt crawl craqwalk or whatever thing back and forth. Like really. No one is gonna broadcast it to the heavens with the title: WATCH OUT BECAUSE LUIGI CAN DO THIS. EVERY TOURNAMENT GOING PLAYER BE AWARE OF AND BLOCK IT.
Also, I would help record.
Also, I would help record.
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
I will get ahold of these videos
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
Damn it, Raptor is on to us xD
nah he's free. just like his master delta cod who dash attacks into my shield and I just up b.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lTQkfKSgkE&feature=player_detailpage#t=110s
boss8
Smash Hero
yoshi is free....all the weegee mains proved this at the last apex....
RaptorTEC
Smash Champion
Nope! You did by taking 8 stocks.
10$ mm at Apex?
10$ mm at Apex?
boss8
Smash Hero
ill MM u for 5.....
depends on how im gonna feel vs egg camping...LOOL
depends on how im gonna feel vs egg camping...LOOL
his yoshi isn't as good as his jiggz. Mm his jiggz as well.
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
Go Mario on his Jiggz tho xD
Exceladon City
Smash Hero
Weegees should use more nado. Like test it in training mode and use it in innovative ways. I don't think too many people know that it's hitboxes alter when he's in the air. They all hit below his arms and feet.
I'm working at bettering my offensive usage of the move. Characters that have really mediocre shields get bopped by this move quite a bit. Luigi's solid shield pressure should make this move more useful against D3/DK because their builds are much too big for their shields. That being said, this move is best used on cross up against them since their backs are sticking out.
I'm working at bettering my offensive usage of the move. Characters that have really mediocre shields get bopped by this move quite a bit. Luigi's solid shield pressure should make this move more useful against D3/DK because their builds are much too big for their shields. That being said, this move is best used on cross up against them since their backs are sticking out.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1lQgPSrxs1g&feature=g-user-u
get 2stocked leon. I think Jmiller might be using luigi again.
get 2stocked leon. I think Jmiller might be using luigi again.
boss8
Smash Hero
that match was so sloppy....
miller got away with so many things leon wasn't punishing him for...
plus miller rolls a **** ton...
i would love to play him >=]
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i went to a tourney yesterday and played only luigi. i made it a point to use nado a ****ton so i don't forget it later on. i played really well.
misfire on command is too good.
misfire on command is too good.
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
What are u guys thoughts on aerial>fireballs?
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is that "aerials greater than fireballs" or "aerials leading into fireballs"?
if it's the first, i agree, because aerials let you become a combofiend.
if it's the second, i think it's good if your aerial knocks them out of your range. you can put up fireballs so they have to stay back and you can have time to think.
if it's the first, i agree, because aerials let you become a combofiend.
if it's the second, i think it's good if your aerial knocks them out of your range. you can put up fireballs so they have to stay back and you can have time to think.
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
Sorry, I should have been a little more precise. Its indeed the latter, being aerial2fireball.
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thought so. i really don't think it's too useful really.
if you hit them with an aerial, why not keep comboing them? if the knockback puts them out of combo range, either get back in there and keep up the pressure, or the fireball wouldnt even reach them.
i guess it's good for a mixup?
if you hit them with an aerial, why not keep comboing them? if the knockback puts them out of combo range, either get back in there and keep up the pressure, or the fireball wouldnt even reach them.
i guess it's good for a mixup?
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
Could it be a potential mixup to hone in on your opponent?
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what do you mean?
i think the animation is too long to let you close in on them after an aerial. either keep momentum in their direction, or shoot the fireball. can't do both, unless what it works differently than i remember.
i think the animation is too long to let you close in on them after an aerial. either keep momentum in their direction, or shoot the fireball. can't do both, unless what it works differently than i remember.
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
I mean trying to close the gap between u and your opponent by using aerial2fireball and that way getting closer to your opponent by them either getting hit by the fireball or shielding the fireball.
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i can't envision how that would work. i guess my mind doesnt want to work right now. sorry broski
- rko -
Smash Apprentice
Nah, its all good man. Maybe Im just going crazy xD
Coolwhip
Smash Champion