The Legendary Heroes of Galar - Zacian and Zamazenta for Smash

[Cosmic77]

If they do some type of Direct like they did with Mario, there's a small, small chance they could include something about a Smash character. Really just depends on whether or not they include information about other games outside the franchise that will celebrate.

Personally though, I'd expect a Smash reveal to be completely separate from the anniversary stuff, assuming they even have some type of special anniversary presentation prepared.

 

[Delzethin]

True, we're reaching the month for this year's big Pokémon news. Whatever they have planned for 2021 and the 25th anniversary, the next few weeks are when we'll find out.

Though it remains to be seen if we learn anything before the actual anniversary on February 27th.

If they do some type of Direct like they did with Mario, there's a small, small chance they could include something about a Smash character. Really just depends on whether or not they include information about other games outside the franchise that will celebrate.

Personally though, I'd expect a Smash reveal to be completely separate from the anniversary stuff, assuming they even have some type of special anniversary presentation prepared.

Yeah, while it's possible, I wouldn't bet on a Smash reveal happening in a single-franchise presentation. Especially not if Sakurai gives us no reason to believe one will happen there--the Smash community hypes up the idea of a sudden reveal blindsiding everyone, but it seems the Smash team and Nintendo would rather people know when one is coming. This is DLC for a game, not the plot of a blockbuster film.

And looking back on last year, I'm left confused as to why the popularty poll wasn't done this year rather than in 2020. Seemed like the type of thing they'd save for an anniversary.

Unless...was the plan to run the poll last year so they'd have time to do something with it this year?

 

[LukeRNG]

True, we're reaching the month for this year's big Pokémon news. Whatever they have planned for 2021 and the 25th anniversary, the next few weeks are when we'll find out.

Though it remains to be seen if we learn anything before the actual anniversary on February 27th.


Yeah, while it's possible, I wouldn't bet on a Smash reveal happening in a single-franchise presentation. Especially not if Sakurai gives us no reason to believe one will happen there--the Smash community hypes up the idea of a sudden reveal blindsiding everyone, but it seems the Smash team and Nintendo would rather people know when one is coming. This is DLC for a game, not the plot of a blockbuster film.


Unless...was the plan to run the poll last year so they'd have time to do something with it this year?

The only thing that comes to mind is which pokemon to give focus on in the anime/merch/tcg department (and maybe something else to do with a certain videogame... nah, likely not. Or maybe...).

 

[fogbadge]

Unless...was the plan to run the poll last year so they'd have time to do something with it this year?

ive been wondering the same thing

 

[zacian]

Oh yeah, wasn’t Dragapult the highest voted Galar mon on that poll

 

[Delzethin]

The only thing that comes to mind is which pokemon to give focus on in the anime/merch/tcg department (and maybe something else to do with a certain videogame... nah, likely not. Or maybe...).

That's what I'm thinking, some kind of special merch line or something similar for the Top 30 on the list. Nothing too wild, but a part of the celebration that also features new mechandise of mons they're now 100% sure are popular enough to be worth the investment cost.

And hey, more Lycanroc merch would be a plus.

 

[Cosmic77]

Not sure if Zacian or Zamazenta will get much merch during the anniversary, but I do know that the Zacian plush has been listed as "unavailable" for several months now. Usually any listings that are marked as "unavailable" won't be restocked for a long time. Not sure how to interpret that, as Zacian has seemingly been a popular plush. Either they fear they won't be able to sell more, or they simply don't want to make any more for other reasons (future merch, other priorities, etc.).

Anywho, I doubt the poll will have a huge effect on Smash, if any effect at all. Sakurai might use the poll as a reference if he feels like he needs reassurance that people will like who he chooses, but I'd be shocked if we got Dragapult or Toxtricity solely because of that.

 

[LukeRNG]

Not sure if Zacian or Zamazenta will get much merch during the anniversary, but I do know that the Zacian plush has been listed as "unavailable" for several months now. Usually any listings that are marked as "unavailable" won't be restocked for a long time. Not sure how to interpret that, as Zacian has seemingly been a popular plush. Either they fear they won't be able to sell more, or they simply don't want to make any more for other reasons (future merch, other priorities, etc.).

Anywho, I doubt the poll will have a huge effect on Smash, if any effect at all. Sakurai might use the poll as a reference if he feels like he needs reassurance that people will like who he chooses, but I'd be shocked if we got Dragapult or Toxtricity solely because of that.

Regardless it's unlikely we'd be told the exact reasons they pick a certain character. Sometimes they mention a few and other times they're oddly cryptic (not angry about it, but I still don't truly understand the "I wanted a wrestler type character" quote). We know for instance Bayonetta was picked for smash 4 WAY before the ballot had finished in october thanks to datamines, so she didn't win.

I do hope at least that we do get 1 solid reason for why Sakurai picks a pokemon other than the starters, if and when it happens, to hopefully get speculators to broaden their horizons a bit.

 

[Cosmic77]

Another sales update. As of the end of last year, SwSh is now at 20.35 million. First Pokémon game since GS to sell over 20 million.

Considering how many times the fanbase has put it through the wringer, I'd say that's pretty impressive. Remains to be seen as to whether or not it can beat GS and clench #2, but the current numbers are still incredible.

 

[fogbadge]

Another sales update. As of the end of last year, SwSh is now at 20.35 million. First Pokémon game since GS to sell over 20 million.

Considering how many times the fanbase has put it through the winger, I'd say that's pretty impressive. Remains to be seen as to whether or not it can beat GS and clench #2, but the current numbers are still incredible.

number 3 is nothing to sneeze at either

 

[LukeRNG]

It seems we are getting e3 this year, though in a digital form. It's be reasonable to expect fighter 10 to be shown there (most likely 3rd party).

I personally hope for fighter 9 that it ends up being out 1st party.

 

[Cosmic77]

It seems we are getting e3 this year, though in a digital form. It's be reasonable to expect fighter 10 to be shown there (most likely 3rd party).

I personally hope for fighter 9 that it ends up being out 1st party.

Timing is in its favor. With the exception of Terry and Steve (with the latter being debatable thanks to COVID-19), all third-parties have been revealed at either E3 or TGAs.

The beginning of the year up to E3 is usually quiet for Nintendo, so just like Byleth and ARMS, I'd expect a first-party to be revealed at this time if they have one. After that, I'd guess it's F11 or bust.

 

[Noipoi]

I personally think from this point on its gonna be third parties until FP11, if there are any first parties that is.

But that’s just my idea, I could be wrong.

 

[LukeRNG]

I personally think from this point on its gonna be third parties until FP11, if there are any first parties that is.

But that’s just my idea, I could be wrong.

As far as I know, no one saw Byleth or Min Min coming, so I was expecting for people to be sleeping on a 1st party at this point.

 

[fogbadge]

As far as I know, no one saw Byleth or Min Min coming, so I was expecting for people to be sleeping on a 1st party at this point.

im sure there were one or two people who saw byleth coming

as for min min, well after an arms character was confirmed the vast majority said min min iirc. of course you mean before that i assume so youre right there

 

[Cosmic77]

TPC claims that there will be several new announcements on the week of the orginal games' anniversary, which will be the end of February.

I don't know if this means we're getting a Pokémon Direct or some type of special anniversary video presentation, but this might be something worth keeping an eye on. The end of February would be roughly two and a half months since Sephiroth, which is how much time had passed since Steve. Timing seems to line up.

Of course, there's a very good chance that everything will be limited to stuff that's directly related to Pokémon. TPC tends to separate its stuff from other Nintendo announcements. If that's the case, then Smash and other Nintendo games probably won't be brought up. We might get a teaser for Diamond and Pearl remakes though.

 

[LukeRNG]

TPC claims that there will be several new announcements on the week of the orginal games' anniversary, which will be the end of February.

I don't know if this means we're getting a Pokémon Direct or some type of special anniversary video presentation, but this might be something worth keeping an eye on. The end of February would be roughly two and a half months since Sephiroth, which is how much time had passed since Steve. Timing seems to line up.

Of course, there's a very good chance that everything will be limited to stuff that's directly related to Pokémon. TPC tends to separate its stuff from other Nintendo announcements. If that's the case, then Smash and other Nintendo games probably won't be brought up. We might get a teaser for Diamond and Pearl remakes though.

Kinda unrelated, but I remember seeing on the 20th anniversary page in their timeline of major releases (Video games, anime, movies, tcg) that they featured the smash games as part of that timeline, giving a short synopsis of each smash game on it's respective release year & month.

 

[fogbadge]

i think we could get an indirect part of the anniversary. say if we do get gen 4 remakes we could very well get a spirit event based on that

 

[LukeRNG]

i think we could get an indirect part of the anniversary. say if we do get gen 4 remakes we could very well get a spirit event based on that

As in adding new spirits or just making sinnoh pokemon spirits more common?

 

[fogbadge]

As in adding new spirits or just making sinnoh pokemon spirits more common?

Adding new ones, dialga and palkia would most likely have new forms that’d work perfectly

 

[LukeRNG]

Adding new ones, dialga and palkia would most likely have new forms that’d work perfectly

I honestly think they'd add those around the games' actual launch, so people had the time to swallow them.

I'd think something like a Time & Space event would make more sense, or a Sinnoh only theme; using the already existing spirits in the game.

 

[fogbadge]

I honestly think they'd add those around the games' actual launch, so people had the time to swallow them.

I'd think something like a Time & Space event would make more sense, or a Sinnoh only theme; using the already existing spirits in the game.

yeah but a spirit event would happen around then wouldnt it? more often than not

 

[Cosmic77]

I guess it's still Valentine's Day for a few of you guys, so here's a pic of the wolves I found a while back.

Not sure what kind of relationship they have, but it's cute nonetheless.

 

[fogbadge]

Not sure what kind of relationship they have, but it's cute nonetheless.

siblings

 

[LukeRNG]

siblings

I'm pretty sure it's speculation in the dex entry. Something like either siblings or rivals.

 

[fogbadge]

I'm pretty sure it's speculation in the dex entry. Something like either siblings or rivals.

the two are not mutually exclusive

 

[Cosmic77]

It's up to interpretation. Maybe they're siblings, maybe they're rivals, maybe they're both, maybe they're neither.

All that we know for sure is that they're both royalty who aided past Galar kings in defending the region from Eternatus before they were put into a deep slumber.

 

[LukeRNG]

It's up to interpretation. Maybe they're siblings, maybe they're rivals, maybe they're both, maybe they're neither.

All that we know for sure is that they're both royalty who aided past Galar kings in defending the region from Eternatus before they were put into a deep slumber.

You know, I find it odd that they still make most Legendary pokemon genderless whenever said legendaries have a hinted or explicit gender (Solgaleo & Lunala are outright stated as Male & Female evolutions of Cosmog in their dex entries), especially since they can just lock pokemon to not breed at all (Male Battle Bond Greninja for example).

 

[fogbadge]

heres an idea that may seem a little random. a friend of mine and i were discussing the likelyhood of somewhere down the line there may be pokemon that can be only got via crossbreeding. do you any of you think its something they might one day do?

 

[Delzethin]

TPC claims that there will be several new announcements on the week of the orginal games' anniversary, which will be the end of February.

I don't know if this means we're getting a Pokémon Direct or some type of special anniversary video presentation, but this might be something worth keeping an eye on. The end of February would be roughly two and a half months since Sephiroth, which is how much time had passed since Steve. Timing seems to line up.

Of course, there's a very good chance that everything will be limited to stuff that's directly related to Pokémon. TPC tends to separate its stuff from other Nintendo announcements. If that's the case, then Smash and other Nintendo games probably won't be brought up. We might get a teaser for Diamond and Pearl remakes though.

I still think we shouldn't expect a reveal as part of the festivities. Nintendo likes to be upfront about when Smash reveals will happen, so unless they outright say to pay attention, we're best off expecting any Pokémon Day news to stay within the series.

The absolute most I could see is a repeat of what they did for ARMS: Saying "The next DLC fighter will be from Sword & Shield...but who?" and then leaving us hanging for a month-plus before the full reveal. But even that I wouldn't count on.

 

[LukeRNG]

heres an idea that may seem a little random. a friend of mine and i were discussing the likelyhood of somewhere down the line there may be pokemon that can be only got via crossbreeding. do you any of you think its something they might one day do?

Anything is possile at this point: evolve with a dark type on the party, while holding the system upside down, landing 3 critical hits, leveling up in a specific location after taking 49 damage, level up with an empty space in the party; the list goes on.

 

[fogbadge]

Anything is possile at this point: evolve with a dark type on the party, while holding the system upside down, landing 3 critical hits, leveling up in a specific location after taking 49 damage, level up with an empty space in the party; the list goes on.

or all of the above

 

[zacian]

Wake up babe Nintendo direction

Tune in 2/17 at 2 p.m. PT for a #NintendoDirect livestream featuring roughly 50 minutes of information focused on available games like Super #SmashBrosUltimate and games coming to #NintendoSwitch in the first half of 2021.https://t.co/fbG3hEtD0Q pic.twitter.com/w8J6lbdIkQ

— Nintendo of America (@NintendoAmerica) February 16, 2021

 

[Cosmic77]

A character reveal should be obvious, but I doubt the character will be released immediately after the Direct. Seems like we might have to wait for a Sakurai Presents.

Timing is intresting though. Next week is the Pokémon 25th anniversary week, so this would be a wonderful opportunity to reveal a Pokémon. We also have Monster Hunter Rise coming out next month (and I'm sure the Direct will cover it at some point), so that's something else I'd keep an eye on for F9; maybe F10 too since it's quite big in Japan.

 

[fogbadge]

hmm if theyre planning a week of pokemon announcements im not sure if we'll get much in the direct

 

[Delzethin]

Well then.

A surprise Nintendo Direct coming tomorrow, with a promise of some kind of Smash news. Looks like we'll (probably) be learning of Fighter #9 earlier than we thought, even if they (probably) won't be ready for at least another month.

With us potentially past the climactic midpoint Smash reveal cycles tend to have, and since we've seen more under-the-radar characters revealed in regular Directs (compared to E3 or The Game Awards), I'd say this is the best chance we've had yet. Not our only one, but it'd fit perfectly to get a SwSh character here. It could even tie into whatever happens for Pokémon Day by letting the folks at TPC mention a new 'mon coming to Smash.

How's everyone feeling? I'm pretty nervous, myself. Though I always gets this way before a Direct.

 

[fogbadge]

Well then.

A surprise Nintendo Direct coming tomorrow, with a promise of some kind of Smash news. Looks like we'll (probably) be learning of Fighter #9 earlier than we thought, even if they (probably) won't be ready for at least another month.

With us potentially past the climactic midpoint Smash reveal cycles tend to have, and since we've seen more under-the-radar characters revealed in regular Directs (compared to E3 or The Game Awards), I'd say this is the best chance we've had yet. Not our only one, but it'd fit perfectly to get a SwSh character here. It could even tie into whatever happens for Pokémon Day by letting the folks at TPC mention a new 'mon coming to Smash.

How's everyone feeling? I'm pretty nervous, myself. Though I always gets this way before a Direct.

What is the point of that video?

 

[Delzethin]

What is the point of that video?

Thematically appropriate background music! Gives off the right feeling of nervous anticipation from knowing something important is about to happen, and you have no idea whether it'll be good or bad.

Also because there's a plausible chance of the next Fire Emblem game getting announced tomorrow, and a remake of Genealogy of the Holy War is one option for that.

 

[fogbadge]

Thematically appropriate background music! Gives off the right feeling of nervous anticipation from knowing something important is about to happen, and you have no idea whether it'll be good or bad.

Also because there's a plausible chance of the next Fire Emblem game getting announced tomorrow, and a remake of Genealogy of the Holy War is one option for that.

Wouldn’t a Pokemon song been more appropriate?

 

[LukeRNG]

Well then.

A surprise Nintendo Direct coming tomorrow, with a promise of some kind of Smash news. Looks like we'll (probably) be learning of Fighter #9 earlier than we thought, even if they (probably) won't be ready for at least another month.

With us potentially past the climactic midpoint Smash reveal cycles tend to have, and since we've seen more under-the-radar characters revealed in regular Directs (compared to E3 or The Game Awards), I'd say this is the best chance we've had yet. Not our only one, but it'd fit perfectly to get a SwSh character here. It could even tie into whatever happens for Pokémon Day by letting the folks at TPC mention a new 'mon coming to Smash.

How's everyone feeling? I'm pretty nervous, myself. Though I always gets this way before a Direct.

I always believed fighter #9 was the best position to get a pokemon rep. Fighter 10 aligns too well with e3 (and so far we've only had 3rd party characters announced for Ultimate dlc) & fighter 11 feels too far away for a pokemon rep imo. Though for all we know, Min Min could've been the only nintendo rep we got in this pass.

Plus, they didn't explicitly say a character. We could just get other updates, tweaks and additions; like new modes, better online, etc. (though that's just me being a tad pessimistic).