The Legendary Heroes of Galar - Zacian and Zamazenta for Smash

[Cosmic77]

Not much going on, so I thought I'd share this. Thought it was kinda cute and funny.

 

[Perkilator]

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Gloria's been confirmed for real (with Zacian as part of her Sync Pair, no less), and OH MY GOD I DIDN'T THINK WE'D AT LEAST BE CLOSE TO HAVING A SCOTTISH ACCENT BE CANON

Keyword "close" BUT IT'S STILL COOL SHADDAP

 

[QQS]

How are the chances of a new Pokémon joining?

 

[Perkilator]

How are the chances of a new Pokémon joining?

Not sure at the moment. The Spirit Event has every right to be their death knell (as is usually the case with Spirit Events themed around a not-yet-represented game in Smash), but the SwSh Spirit Event used a grand total of 7/81* Galarian Pokémon: Grookey, Scorbunny, Sobble, Corviknight, Morpeko, Zacian, and Zamazenta.

*89 if you count the new Pokémon in the DLC

 

[fogbadge]

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Gloria's been confirmed for real (with Zacian as part of her Sync Pair, no less), and OH MY GOD I DIDN'T THINK WE'D AT LEAST BE CLOSE TO HAVING A SCOTTISH ACCENT BE CANON

Keyword "close" BUT IT'S STILL COOL SHADDAP

oh joy, a meme where they cant even get the serotype right

 

[Cosmic77]

How are the chances of a new Pokémon joining?

Depends on who you ask. Everyone has a different opinion, and a lot of people interpret the Spirit Event differently. Some believe it could’ve been made for the sole purpose of promoting SwSh with very little consideration about future representation in Smash. Some people believe SwSh could still be a part of the DLC, but that Sakurai purposely chose specific Pokémon as Spirits because he knew they wouldn't be playable. Others think Pokémon was deconfirmed the second the event was announced.

I think a SwSh Pokémon is more likely than most of the other first-parties brought up, but there's plenty of other opinions out there besides mine.

 

[fogbadge]

Depends on who you ask. Everyone has a different opinion, and a lot of people interpret the Spirit Event differently. Some believe it could’ve been made for the sole purpose of promoting SwSh with very little consideration about future representation in Smash. Some people believe SwSh could still be a part of the DLC, but that Sakurai purposely chose specific Pokémon as Spirits because he knew they wouldn't be playable. Others think Pokémon was deconfirmed the second the event was announced.

I think a SwSh Pokémon is more likely than most of the other first-parties brought up, but there's plenty of other opinions out there besides mine.

its also quite tricky to judge casue this is the first time weve had a new gen come out during a smash dlc cycle

 

[zacian]

here’s gloria’s ex outfit and background if anyone’s curious

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[Pokelego999]

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Gloria's been confirmed for real (with Zacian as part of her Sync Pair, no less), and OH MY GOD I DIDN'T THINK WE'D AT LEAST BE CLOSE TO HAVING A SCOTTISH ACCENT BE CANON

Keyword "close" BUT IT'S STILL COOL SHADDAP

The scottish accent is canon.

Amazing.

 

[fogbadge]

The scottish accent is canon.

Amazing.

you mean the racism

 

[Pokelego999]

you mean the racism

What?

 

[fogbadge]

What?

well the entire scottish accent meme was kinda offensive.

also why do you all think she has a scottish accent, she sounds super english in that video?

 

[Pokelego999]

well the entire scottish accent meme was kinda offensive.

also why do you all think she has a scottish accent, she sounds super english in that video?

Was it?

 

[fogbadge]

Was it?

yes

 

[Pokelego999]

yes

How so?

 

[fogbadge]

How so?

because she had an English accent

 

[Cosmic77]

I don't think the Scottish accent thing was mean at all. The meme was just showing us one of the more extreme examples of someone with a Scottish accent. Some people genuinely talk like that.

It's really no different than someone impersonating a man from New York by saying stuff like, "Fuhgettaboutit!!" or, "What!? You talkin' ta me!?"

 

[Pokelego999]

because she had an English accent

So you're saying it's racist because the accent wasn't the most scottish it could've been.

 

[fogbadge]

So you're saying it's racist because the accent wasn't the most scottish it could've been.

no I was saying the meme was racist.

 

[LukeRNG]

It's starting:

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Can't wait for February, which is when we'll most likely get info on their plans for 2021. Any hopes?

 

[Delzethin]

Don't mind me, just catching up on posts I keep putting off replying to.

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Gloria's been confirmed for real (with Zacian as part of her Sync Pair, no less), and OH MY GOD I DIDN'T THINK WE'D AT LEAST BE CLOSE TO HAVING A SCOTTISH ACCENT BE CANON

Keyword "close" BUT IT'S STILL COOL SHADDAP

Turns out the teaser meant exactly what we thought it would. While this has next to no direct effect on plans for Smash since it's just a mobile spinoff that isn't even developed in-house, it does say something that they used Zacian to introduce the Galar region and not a starter. Further shows just how prominent this generation's key legendaries are, and why they're absolutely worth considering as possible newcomers.

Wonder how they'll handle the other main characters, though? Victor with Scorbunny or a different starter? Hop with Zamazenta as his default and Dubwool with his Sygna alt? Or the other way around?

How are the chances of a new Pokémon joining?

Probably pretty good? Depends on how you look at it and what you're looking at, I suppose. As the others mentioned, we've never had a new generation launch while Smash DLC was going on before.

That said, I do think the odds are pretty good right now. Pokémon continues to be one of the most recognized franchises in all of gaming, so anyone from Sword & Shield would be well known. Pokémon characters also (usually) have unique elemental powers and other abilities that are rare-to-nonexistent on the Smash roster, so it's also easy to pick one that'll look interesting to play as.

The Spirit Event late last year...raises questions, but I believe it was set up last summer while talk of doing a second season of DLC had only just gotten serious. It was arranged at a point where they didn't know if they'd get a chance to bring in a Gen 8 newcomer. And if the way the past couple new 'mons were handled is any precedent, if we are getting a Gen 8 newcomer then they probably stuck a placeholder into the project plan for them to narrow down later on when it was about time to start developing the fighter. Meaning that when that Spirit Event went live, they wouldn't have chosen who from Galar they wanted yet! And as we saw with Min Min, they're totally fine with making someone playable even if they already have a spirit.

It's starting:

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Can't wait for February, which is when we'll most likely get info on their plans for 2021. Any hopes?

There'll probably be a Pokémon Direct in January that reveals the next mainline game(s), among other things.

 

[zacian]

Wonder how they'll handle the other main characters, though? Victor with Scorbunny or a different starter? Hop with Zamazenta as his default and Dubwool with his Sygna alt? Or the other way around?

I feel like if Victor doesn’t get a starter in his default, him and Gloria will get a Sygna alt paired with one of starters in the future, kinda like what they did with Blue and Leaf

Also wondering who Leon’s gonna get since Red has Charizard

 

[Cosmic77]

It'd feel weird if Gloria got a Legendary and Victor got stuck with Scorbunny or some other starter. A bit of an injustice if you ask me.

Hop would probably get Wooloo if he doesn't get Zamazenta. Morpeko for Marnie, Yamper for Sonia, and I'm not really sure who Bede would get. Leon probably won't get Charizard, so he's a bit of a wild card.

 

[Perkilator]

It'd feel weird if Gloria got a Legendary and Victor got stuck with Scorbunny or some other starter. A bit of an injustice if you ask me.

Hop would probably get Wooloo if he doesn't get Zamazenta. Morpeko for Marnie, Yamper for Sonia, and I'm not really sure who Bede would get. Leon probably won't get Charizard, so he's a bit of a wild card.

Bede would get Hatterene.

 

[Delzethin]

Hop would probably get Wooloo if he doesn't get Zamazenta. Morpeko for Marnie, Yamper for Sonia, and I'm not really sure who Bede would get. Leon probably won't get Charizard, so he's a bit of a wild card.

Bede would depend on whether Masters gets weird with him or not. If they stick to signature 'mons, he'd have Hatterene. But he could also end up with Galarian Rapidash or some other Psychic or Fairy type native to Galar.

 

[Cosmic77]

Some of the Pokémon choices in this game are...questionable.

Exhibit A: Calum.

 

[QQS]

Don't mind me, just catching up on posts I keep putting off replying to.


Turns out the teaser meant exactly what we thought it would. While this has next to no direct effect on plans for Smash since it's just a mobile spinoff that isn't even developed in-house, it does say something that they used Zacian to introduce the Galar region and not a starter. Further shows just how prominent this generation's key legendaries are, and why they're absolutely worth considering as possible newcomers.

Wonder how they'll handle the other main characters, though? Victor with Scorbunny or a different starter? Hop with Zamazenta as his default and Dubwool with his Sygna alt? Or the other way around?


Probably pretty good? Depends on how you look at it and what you're looking at, I suppose. As the others mentioned, we've never had a new generation launch while Smash DLC was going on before.

That said, I do think the odds are pretty good right now. Pokémon continues to be one of the most recognized franchises in all of gaming, so anyone from Sword & Shield would be well known. Pokémon characters also (usually) have unique elemental powers and other abilities that are rare-to-nonexistent on the Smash roster, so it's also easy to pick one that'll look interesting to play as.

The Spirit Event late last year...raises questions, but I believe it was set up last summer while talk of doing a second season of DLC had only just gotten serious. It was arranged at a point where they didn't know if they'd get a chance to bring in a Gen 8 newcomer. And if the way the past couple new 'mons were handled is any precedent, if we are getting a Gen 8 newcomer then they probably stuck a placeholder into the project plan for them to narrow down later on when it was about time to start developing the fighter. Meaning that when that Spirit Event went live, they wouldn't have chosen who from Galar they wanted yet! And as we saw with Min Min, they're totally fine with making someone playable even if they already have a spirit.


There'll probably be a Pokémon Direct in January that reveals the next mainline game(s), among other things.

Yes I see! A Pokemon always has good chances to join!

 

[Cosmic77]

Thought this scene was worth sharing.

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[Staarih]

Some of the Pokémon choices in this game are...questionable.

Exhibit A: Calum.

I know right, and I often find myself thinking that "this Pokémon would fit this trainer" and then bam, a Sync Pair with not-the-most logical choice of a pairing arrives. Which is why I wouldn't be surprised if Victor does just get a starter while Gloria got a legendary. As for Leon, if some sort of Dynamax-feature is added, I could still see him get a Charizard (the player character can have duplicates of so many existing sync pair Pokémon already), or then he'll just get a Dragapult or something.

Anyway, I still enjoy the game, not sure how many here actually play Masters but it's become a daily thing for me.

 

[fogbadge]

Anyway, I still enjoy the game

really?

 

[Staarih]

really?

Yes.

 

[Pokelego999]

I feel like if Victor doesn’t get a starter in his default, him and Gloria will get a Sygna alt paired with one of starters in the future, kinda like what they did with Blue and Leaf

Also wondering who Leon’s gonna get since Red has Charizard

My bets on Aegislash.

 

[fogbadge]

Yes.

to each their own

My bets on Aegislash.

id guess so too

 

[zacian]

Art of Gloria and her sword doggy, featuring Steven and Mallow

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[Cosmic77]

Art of Gloria and her sword doggy, featuring Steven and Mallow

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It's a great picture, but people always forget how tall certain Pokémon actually are.

Here Gloria is about the same height as Zacian when on her knees. That means this Zacian is close to the size of a real-life dog when it should be noticeablely taller than most humans.

Zacian is over nine feet tall.

 

[fogbadge]

It's a great picture, but people always forget how tall certain Pokémon actually are.

Here Gloria is about the same height as Zacian when on her knees. That means this Zacian is close to the size of a real-life dog when it should be noticeablely taller than most humans.

Zacian is over nine feet tall.

size inconsistency is a regular thing in pokemon

 

[Delzethin]

So, The Game Awards is just a couple days away. Any game announcements you guys hoping to see? Doubt there'd be anything Pokémon-related since TPC likes to announce stuff on their own terms, but hey.

Meanwhile, this was a thing a few days back:

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Neat.

 

[Cosmic77]

Setting likelihood aside, a Smash announcement would obviously be cool. It'd be even cooler though if we got a reveal trailer for a new unannounced game, but that's probably not happening if the previous TGA announcements are anything to look at.

For now, I don't expect anything except maybe a small New Horizons trailer since it's up for Game of the Year.

 

[LukeRNG]

So, The Game Awards is just a couple days away. Any game announcements you guys hoping to see? Doubt there'd be anything Pokémon-related since TPC likes to announce stuff on their own terms, but hey.

Meanwhile, this was a thing a few days back:

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Neat.

I'll just laugh a bit when Jeff Keiley says "Pokémon Cafe Mix" again during best mobile game nominees. It's just not something I'm used to: Pokémon and The Game Awards are 2 things I never thought would be together (and I'm a bit rubbed off that Among Us is even nominated: a 2018 game in a 2020 awards show).

Setting likelihood aside, a Smash announcement would obviously be cool. It'd be even cooler though if we got a reveal trailer for a new unannounced game, but that's probably not happening if the previous TGA announcements are anything to look at.

For now, I don't expect anything except maybe a small New Horizons trailer since it's up for Game of the Year.

Apparently Jeff Keiley mentioned that there's 12 new announcements about games that haven't leaked as far as he knows, so at least some update from anything Nintendo is possible.

 

[fogbadge]

personally i hope they dont announce anything at TGA