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The hero of Dragon Quest III, Erdrick, joins the battle!

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Yatanagi

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God I want that so much.

Yatanagi Yatanagi Btw, watching Kamen Rider Build. I'm really enjoying it so far.
Nice, I'm glad that you like it. Want to hear when you got more ahead of the story.
Also there some movies between some episodes. They explain some things that happen. Saddly the first one is the Movie Wars with Ex-Aid, and it needs to watch Ex-Aid, Ghost, Gaim, Fourze and OOO to avoid spoilers. But it just show a character that is mentioned in the series and that Build World is a parallel world to the main Kamen Rider World, as they mentioned it on the first promotions of the series, but didn't mention this in the series.

Edit: Here is the full series episode order, if you want to watch the extra content:
1-14, Heisei Generation Final, 15-18, Hyper Battle DVD KumaTelevi, 19-21, 7 Best Matchs(1-2), 21-24, ROGUE(1-3), 25, 7 Best Matchs(3), 26-41, Hyper Battle DVD Prime Rogue, 42-45, Be The One(Movie), 46-49, V-Cinext
Just search for those in the right episodes or you may get spoilers.
 
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Fellas thanks for those recommendations earlier. I decided to start off with DQ 5 as my first one and I also am hoping that Erdrick will join the fight in future DLC with all we got going for him. Though I wonder if any of those hints or "Leaks" really count as evidence because I was a stern Isaac Supporter and I thought that Rathalos Tweet was confirming Isaac to be playable only to end up as an assist trophy. Given that disappointment, I am doing my best not to call Erdrick a Lock or anything, but what makes any of you guys Confident that Erdricks really coming? Some of my buds keep yammering on with braves name meaning anything else and how the negotiations nightmare and all that.
 

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Fellas thanks for those recommendations earlier. I decided to start off with DQ 5 as my first one and I also am hoping that Erdrick will join the fight in future DLC with all we got going for him. Though I wonder if any of those hints or "Leaks" really count as evidence because I was a stern Isaac Supporter and I thought that Rathalos Tweet was confirming Isaac to be playable only to end up as an assist trophy. Given that disappointment, I am doing my best not to call Erdrick a Lock or anything, but what makes any of you guys Confident that Erdricks really coming? Some of my buds keep yammering on with braves name meaning anything else and how the negotiations nightmare and all that.
I feel that as a Isaac supporter myself, I don't wanna repeat that same grief with Erdrick like I did with Isaac.
So I'm just gonna take it easy for this speculation ride, but I still hope Erdrick and many other characters can make it in.
 
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Fellas thanks for those recommendations earlier. I decided to start off with DQ 5 as my first one and I also am hoping that Erdrick will join the fight in future DLC with all we got going for him. Though I wonder if any of those hints or "Leaks" really count as evidence because I was a stern Isaac Supporter and I thought that Rathalos Tweet was confirming Isaac to be playable only to end up as an assist trophy. Given that disappointment, I am doing my best not to call Erdrick a Lock or anything, but what makes any of you guys Confident that Erdricks really coming? Some of my buds keep yammering on with braves name meaning anything else and how the negotiations nightmare and all that.
I’ll be honest with ya. I’m not 100% confident either, as I too was a Grinch Leak supporter. I liked pretty much every character in the list, but mostly Shadow and especially Isaac.

So in fear of getting burned again, I’m tempering my expectations.

Still... there’s been lots of talk of a DQ character, and a little after that, Erdrick, that it’s almost impossible to ignore. It almost feels like a Kencineroar situation, as there are a lot of insiders backing him.

But for me, Tansut, the one who leaked Cloud in Smash 4 is the sturdiest pillar of confidence to me.
 

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I want to be a big Dragon Quest fan, and i want to know more about Erdrick!

Can you guys help me please? =)
 

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Saw this, gave me a laugh:

Granted, Sugiyama defence in this is a little bit questionable. While his opinions on homosexuality and World War II aren't quite as radical as this image would make out, they're still well outside an acceptable opinion on these topics. One can support Dragon Quest and Erdrick without having to justify Sugiyama's homophobia and racism.
 

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Like , what Dragon Quest game should i play first?
And why Erdrick is so important if he was not the first main character ( i think )?
 
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I want to be a big Dragon Quest fan, and i want to know more about Erdrick!

Can you guys help me please? =)
Now that's an interesting approach :p
Are you looking for advice on which games to play?
A lot of them can be found on ds or 3ds, so if you have that there's quite a few you can play, including a spin-off or two.

Are there certain things you like in an rpg?

edit: guess i should've looked at the new post :O

Saw this, gave me a laugh:

Granted, Sugiyama defence in this is a little bit questionable. While his opinions on homosexuality and World War II aren't quite as radical as this image would make out, they're still well outside an acceptable opinion on these topics. One can support Dragon Quest and Erdrick without having to justify Sugiyama's homophobia and racism.
Ya that sounds about right. Along with the typical anime swordsman thing, which actually im glad isn't in there cuz im tired of seeing it :p
 
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Now that's an interesting approach :p
Are you looking for advice on which games to play?
A lot of them can be found on ds or 3ds, so if you have that there's quite a few you can play, including a spin-off or two.

Are there certain things you like in an rpg?




Ya that sounds about right. Along with the typical anime swordsman thing, which actually im glad isn't in there cuz im tired of seeing it :p
I like old school RPGs like Breath of Fire and Valkyrie Profile!
 

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I like old school RPGs like Breath of Fire and Valkyrie Profile!
That's nice. well the often recommends are dragon quest 5, 8 and 11. But the other ones are good too, and the ones that have the class systems might not have as good of stories, but if you like more complexity in customization (like roles, skills, and alll that), then 6 and possibly 3 can be cool. 7 too but it's a slow story. In 3 there's less classes to choose from but it's the game erdrick is in. It's only on older consoles tho.

Erdrick's game actually happened before 1 and 2 and he (or she) is the legendary hero. There's less skills in that game, but more exploration and still a good time. In 5 you can recruit monsters into your party, so if you like that kind of mechanic that's a good game too. And if you just want a straightforward 3d game with decent story and basic but diverse enough skill learning, then 8 and 11 can be good.
 
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That's nice. well the often recommends are dragon quest 5, 8 and 11. But the other ones are good too, and the ones that have the class systems might not have as good of stories, but if you like more complexity in customization (like roles, skills, and alll that), then 6 and possibly 3 can be cool. 7 too but it's a slow story. In 3 there's less classes to choose from but it's the game erdrick is in. It's only on older consoles tho.

Erdrick's game actually happened before 1 and 2 and he (or she) is the legendary hero. There's less skills in that game, but more exploration and still a good time. In 5 you can recruit monsters into your party, so if you like that kind of mechanic that's a good game too. And if you just want a straightforward 3d game with decent story and basic but diverse enough skill learning, then 8 and 11 can be good.
YO I WILL DOWNLOAD DRAGON QUEST 5 RIGHT NOW

My god , i love the idea!

Thank you master :bluejump:

Oh and , i just think Dragon Quest looks awesome, and i want to love it as much as you guys do!
 

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YO I WILL DOWNLOAD DRAGON QUEST 5 RIGHT NOW

My god , i love the idea!

Thank you master :bluejump:

Oh and , i just think Dragon Quest looks awesome, and i want to love it as much as you guys do!
Cool :)
It's funny to want to like something but it also makes sense if it's something you might enjoy.

And if ever you do like it then you can consider to buy some in the future.
I havent played DQ11 yet myself but i'll probably buy it on the switch, it's got a lot of cool features. Only going to be out in autumn tho.
 
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Cool :)
It's funny to want to like something but it also makes sense if it's something you might enjoy.

And if ever you do like it then you can consider to buy some in the future.
I havent played DQ11 yet myself but i'll probably buy it on the switch, it's got a lot of cool features. Only going to be out in autumn tho.
I will for sure, but first let me play DQ5! Haha!

I was thinking about Erdrick in Smash, he is a type of Medieval Knight right? So he will be the first 100% Knight in the game.
 

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I will for sure, but first let me play DQ5! Haha!

I was thinking about Erdrick in Smash, he is a type of Medieval Knight right? So he will be the first 100% Knight in the game.
He can wear armor like a knight, but most of the time he's shown with lighter clothing like in the pictures.
Erdrick can use magic too so it's like a magic knight in a way. He can use other weapons than just swords but if they put them in smash it'll probably be mostly using a sword.

DQ5 is in 2d so that's a good one if you like the retro rpgs. you'll be able to find it on ds, or just plain snes if you know how to find a translated version.
 
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He can wear armor like a knight, but most of the time he's shown with lighter clothing like in the pictures.
Erdrick can use magic too so it's like a magic knight in a way. He can use other weapons than just swords but if they put them in smash it'll probably be mostly using a sword.

DQ5 is in 2d so that's a good one if you like the retro rpgs. you'll be able to find it on ds, or just plain snes if you know how to find a translated version.
A Magic Knight, thats cool!
I watched Dragon Quest on TV a long time ago, and now it's time for me to return to it!
 

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Nice, I'm glad that you like it. Want to hear when you got more ahead of the story.
Also there some movies between some episodes. They explain some things that happen. Saddly the first one is the Movie Wars with Ex-Aid, and it needs to watch Ex-Aid, Ghost, Gaim, Fourze and OOO to avoid spoilers. But it just show a character that is mentioned in the series and that Build World is a parallel world to the main Kamen Rider World, as they mentioned it on the first promotions of the series, but didn't mention this in the series.

Edit: Here is the full series episode order, if you want to watch the extra content:
1-14, Heisei Generation Final, 15-18, Hyper Battle DVD KumaTelevi, 19-21, 7 Best Matchs(1-2), 21-24, ROGUE(1-3), 25, 7 Best Matchs(3), 26-41, Hyper Battle DVD Prime Rogue, 42-45, Be The One(Movie), 46-49, V-Cinext
Just search for those in the right episodes or you may get spoilers.
Oof too late, I'm already ep 23.

Fellas thanks for those recommendations earlier. I decided to start off with DQ 5 as my first one and I also am hoping that Erdrick will join the fight in future DLC with all we got going for him. Though I wonder if any of those hints or "Leaks" really count as evidence because I was a stern Isaac Supporter and I thought that Rathalos Tweet was confirming Isaac to be playable only to end up as an assist trophy. Given that disappointment, I am doing my best not to call Erdrick a Lock or anything, but what makes any of you guys Confident that Erdricks really coming? Some of my buds keep yammering on with braves name meaning anything else and how the negotiations nightmare and all that.
I mean no matter what, any leak or rumour doesn't really ever makes something a lock. Nor does it make it not a lock either. It's just a waiting thing but I'm gonna remain hopeful. I believe in the Luminary or Erdrick whatever.

Like , what Dragon Quest game should i play first?
And why Erdrick is so important if he was not the first main character ( i think )?
Definitely imo for any newcomer, Dragon Quest 11. Game is a celebration of the entire series as a whole and with Erdrick, he's referenced quite a lot in the entire series. He's kind of the quintessential hero of the franchise.
 
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Oof too late, I'm already ep 23.



I mean no matter what, any leak or rumour doesn't really ever makes something a lock. Nor does it make it not a lock either. It's just a waiting thing but I'm gonna remain hopeful. I believe in the Luminary or Erdrick whatever.



Definitely imo for any newcomer, Dragon Quest 11. Game is a celebration of the entire series as a whole and with Erdrick, he's referenced quite a lot in the entire series. He's kind of the quintessential hero of the franchise.
So Erdrick is like the Legend of his World? Thats Amazing!
 

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Oof too late, I'm already ep 23.
Oh Hahahaha xD Well, the Hyper Battle DVD usually is just to show a exclusive form. And the importance of 7 Best Matchs Webseries is more the second episode and the third one, they are more relevant to the episode 25. The ROGUE miniseries thou, is better to watch as it have some explanations to somethings in the series that collaborate to thinking the plot. Also, it's a bit like a V-Cinema, with a more serious and dark tone then the series.
Also, hope that you liked episode 21.
And noticed what the "Are You Ready?!" On the Henshin announcement means.

So Erdrick is like the Legend of his World? Thats Amazing!
Yes, and also is a bit like Link but more like a will legacy then a reincarnation.
 
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You should know that the monster recruiting in Dragon Quest V is random, by the way. Monsters each have a chance of joining you, and some of them won't join you at all. It's best to treat each monster recruit like a delightful surprise rather than something you plan for.

It also only becomes available to you after a certain point in the story, and even then it's easy to miss. When you reach a town with a casino in it, return to that town in the nighttime, and go to the upper left shop.

With those tips out of the way, I hope you enjoy your time with Dragon Quest V!
 

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I'm starting to become more favourable towards Erdrick's potential inclusion. Just one more thing I want to know before he has my support, what potential moves can he bring that would make him stand out from everyone else and basically the general gist of how his moveset can turn out
 

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I'm starting to become more favourable towards Erdrick's potential inclusion. Just one more thing I want to know before he has my support, what potential moves can he bring that would make him stand out from everyone else and basically the general gist of how his moveset can turn out
We have plenty of general ideas. You can look at the OP for a few moveset examples.

The general idea behind Erdrick is that Dragon Quest is the original JRPG, Dragon Quest III in particular is the single most influential game in the genre, and Erdrick's design is one of the most influential designs in Japanese video games. As such, most of us feel that Erdrick would be perfect to be the fighter who embodies JRPG tropes in general, alongside the more specific Dragon Quest tropes.

To list a few examples:
  • Erdrick can be unique in that they use party members in their moveset, perhaps calling upon them to assist them with standard or special attacks; therefore Erdrick could fulfill a niche as a "summon" character.
  • We also felt that Erdrick could utilize a menu screen mid combat, using one special move to bring it up and select various spells, which could be used with another special move.
  • One of us even brought up the idea of Erdrick leveling up in the middle of combat by assigning a special move to make Erdrick stay in place and defeat several monsters in a row to earn experience, giving them a "level up" that temporarily increased their stats (temporarily because, as we all know, level ups can only carry us so far in most RPGs before we need to level up to get even stronger once again).
  • Similar to bringing up a little menu to select various spells, Erdrick could also change equipment mid-combat, going from a sword to a whip or an axe, etc. This gives Erdrick a niche of "weapon switching character" which can change their normal attacks.
  • Something I just thought up, as of this moment, is that the Defend command is in most JRPGs because Dragon Quest included it. It has its niche uses in most JRPGs but Smash could find a way to have Erdrick utilize it, where it's not a counter but it halves damage and knockback. Joker currently has something similar but it's more like a damage tanking move that fills up a meter to get stronger.
All those ideas, however, are just the beginning, as they embody JRPG tropes as a whole. There are a few more things Erdrick, specifically, can do.
  • One is that, as a reference to their armor, walking or running a certain distance will heal them for some damage. To compensate their speed can be somewhat average so opponents can realistically prevent them from healing this way, but this may be an overpowered idea in general.
    • To further elaborate, Erdrick's entire equipment set is legendary. Not just "famous in the game" but the equipment is really cool because each piece has its uses. The armor heals you with every step, as already mentioned. The helmet also prevents Erdrick from experiencing the peskier status effects like Sleep or Mute or (I think) Paralysis. But it's the sword and shield that could be special moves in Smash, because selecting them from the menu in Dragon Quest allows Erdrick to utilize a couple of abilities. The sword, when used, causes enemies to suffer the effects of a strong wind spell, whereas the shield gives Erdrick protection against physical and magic attacks. Both of these abilities are usually kept behind spells, but Erdrick's sword and shield can conjure them up for free. The sword in Smash can do something like push opponents from distance or, heck, just copy the Mii Swordfighter's Gale Strike, whereas the shield can be a reflector or counter.
  • Erdrick is part of the "Hero" class, which in Dragon Quest always grants them with similar spells.
    • One is Zap, which is lightning magic that falls from the sky a fair distance away from the hero. Think Pikachu's Thunder but it hits in front of Erdrick rather than Erdrick themselves.
    • Another is Kaclang, which turns Erdrick and their party into stone, rendering them impervious to attacks but also immobile. This can be similar to Kirby's Stone, which would be interesting on a sword fighter.
    • A common one is Zoom. This is the spell that allows the caster to return to a previously visited area in most games, and in every Dragon Quest game this is shown by the heroes rising up into the air while not changing their standing position. This, amusingly, is the reason they can't use the spell indoors and in most dungeons, as there's a ceiling to contend with. This pretty much has to be Erdrick's recovery.
    • A couple people have brought up the possibility of Erdrick using Snooze, a common status move that puts enemies to sleep. Basically, Erdrick can fill the niche of having a move that puts people to sleep from a distance or something, unlike Jigglypuff who has to be up close and open herself up to attacks if it whiffs. It's a neat idea.
So, as you can see, there are TONS of possibilities for how Erdrick can fight in a way that makes them stand out from everyone else. Erdrick is the quintessential JRPG hero, and this status gives them more than enough to work with.
 
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We have plenty of general ideas. You can look at the OP for a few moveset examples.

The general idea behind Erdrick is that Dragon Quest is the original JRPG, Dragon Quest III in particular is the single most influential game in the genre, and Erdrick's design is one of the most influential designs in Japanese video games. As such, most of us feel that Erdrick would be perfect to be the fighter who embodies JRPG tropes in general, alongside the more specific Dragon Quest tropes.

To list a few examples:
  • Erdrick can be unique in that they use party members in their moveset, perhaps calling upon them to assist them with standard or special attacks; therefore Erdrick could fulfill a niche as a "summon" character.
  • We also felt that Erdrick could utilize a menu screen mid combat, using one special move to bring it up and select various spells, which could be used with another special move.
  • One of us even brought up the idea of Erdrick leveling up in the middle of combat by assigning a special move to make Erdrick stay in place and defeat several monsters in a row to earn experience, giving them a "level up" that temporarily increased their stats (temporarily because, as we all know, level ups can only carry us so far in most RPGs before we need to level up to get even stronger once again).
  • Similar to bringing up a little menu to select various spells, Erdrick could also change equipment mid-combat, going from a sword to a whip or an axe, etc. This gives Erdrick a niche of "weapon switching character" which can change their normal attacks.
  • Something I just thought up, as of this moment, is that the Defend command is in most JRPGs because Dragon Quest included it. It has its niche uses in most JRPGs but Smash could find a way to have Erdrick utilize it, where it's not a counter but it halves damage and knockback. Joker currently has something similar but it's more like a damage tanking move that fills up a meter to get stronger.
All those ideas, however, are just the beginning, as they embody JRPG tropes as a whole. There are a few more things Erdrick, specifically, can do.
  • One is that, as a reference to their armor, walking or running a certain distance will heal them for some damage. To compensate their speed can be somewhat average so opponents can realistically prevent them from healing this way, but this may be an overpowered idea in general.
    • To further elaborate, Erdrick's entire equipment set is legendary. Not just "famous in the game" but the equipment is really cool because each piece has its uses. The armor heals you with every step, as already mentioned. The helmet also prevents Erdrick from experiencing the peskier status effects like Sleep or Mute or (I think) Paralysis. But it's the sword and shield that could be special moves in Smash, because selecting them from the menu in Dragon Quest allows Erdrick to utilize a couple of abilities. The sword, when used, dispels status buffs and debuffs on an enemy, whereas the shield gives Erdrick protection against physical and magic attacks. Both of these abilities are usually kept behind spells, but Erdrick's sword and shield can conjure them up for free. The sword in Smash can do something like interrupt and stun charge moves from a distance, wasting them before their opponent can even use them, whereas the shield can be a reflector or counter.
  • Erdrick is part of the "Hero" class, which in Dragon Quest always grants them with similar spells.
    • One is Zap, which is lightning magic that falls from the sky a fair distance away from the hero. Think Pikachu's Thunder but it hits in front of Erdrick rather than Erdrick themselves.
    • Another is Kaclang, which turns Erdrick and their party into stone, rendering them impervious to attacks but also immobile. This can be similar to Kirby's Stone, which would be interesting on a sword fighter.
    • A common one is Zoom. This is the spell that allows the caster to return to a previously visited area in most games, and in every Dragon Quest game this is shown by the heroes rising up into the air while not changing their standing position. This, amusingly, is the reason they can't use the spell indoors and in most dungeons, as there's a ceiling to contend with. This pretty much has to be Erdrick's recovery.
    • A couple people have brought up the possibility of Erdrick using Snooze, a common status move that puts enemies to sleep. Basically, Erdrick can fill the niche of having a move that puts people to sleep from a distance or something, unlike Jigglypuff who has to be up close and open herself up to attacks if it whiffs. It's a neat idea.
So, as you can see, there are TONS of possibilities for how Erdrick can fight in a way that makes them stand out from everyone else. Erdrick is the quintessential JRPG hero, and this status gives them more than enough to work with.
With so many possiblities for Erdrick's moveset and representation, i hope we don't end up in a situation similar to Cloud's where his moves don't really reflects the way he fights in the original game.
 

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I'm starting to become more favourable towards Erdrick's potential inclusion. Just one more thing I want to know before he has my support, what potential moves can he bring that would make him stand out from everyone else and basically the general gist of how his moveset can turn out
If you take some of the spells and skills from the games and try to translate them into Smash, you can come up with all kinds of stuff. Here's some ideas.

Zap - Calls down a lightning bolt that strikes in front of him. Can be charged into Kazap, which instead of being a single focused strike, would be like a big lightning shower that rains down from the sky.

Sizz - Creates a wave of fire that rolls across the ground. Can be charged into Sizzle, which I guess would act similarly to regular Sizz, but it's a bigger wave that also rolls backwards after touching an edge or something.

Kaclang - Turns Erdrick into an invulnerable iron statue at the cost of making him unable to move. For the sake of Smash, I'll say that this move can be cancelled out of at any time. It's a purely defensive move with no real use as an attack, but you can drop down onto your rivals sort of like Kirby's stone if you want (it wouldn't do much damage or knockback, though). To balance the fact that you're completely invulnerable while Kaclang is active, it'll wear off on its own, and you can be picked up like a crate if you're not careful.

Snooze - Casts a spell that puts rivals to sleep. That's really all it does, so I guess that's it.

Fizzle - Casts a spell that temporarily locks a rival's special moves from use. That's the only way I could translate this spell into Smash. To balance it, maybe make it hard to land, or have it not last very long at low percents or something.

For the attacks above, I stuck to the ones Erdrick actually uses in his game, but they could also reach for some recurring sword skills throughout the series if they wanted to. Here's ideas for some of those.

Miracle Slash - If it worked anything like how it does in DQ Heroes, I suppose Erdrick would imbue his sword with a sparkling light that lasts temporarily. While the move is active, every attack he lands with his sword would heal a little bit of damage. Another option is to have it be just one slash that heals a little bit of damage. Either idea could work, I think.

Falcon Slash - If it worked anything like how it does in DQ Heroes, Erdrick would perform a forward moving strike that temporarily makes an after-image of sorts mimic his every move. Another option is to have it be one slash that causes an after-image to strike afterwards. Maybe it could be used to string together combos if Falcon Slash left Erdrick free to move while his after-image finished the second strike, thus enabling him to move into position for a possible follow-up attack.

Gigaslash - Perhaps this could be used as his forward smash. At the start of the animation, Erdrick quickly raises his sword into the air as it gets struck by lightning. He then does a powerful spinning slash with a blade of holy electricity that reaches pretty far forward. It would be a pretty unique smash attack as it would first hit above him, and then in front of him. It could also just be his Final Smash.

Gigagash - Would most likely be Erdrick's Final Smash if Gigaslash wasn't. It's basically a more powerful version of Gigaslash.

There's also the possibility that Erdrick could wield a bunch of different weapons in his moveset, possibly even equipping them outright, but this post is already long enough, so I won't get into all of that.

There's a ton of different directions one could take in creating a moveset for Erdrick, so I'd be very interested to see what Sakurai would do.

Edit: Lol, TheYungLink TheYungLink 's post is way better than mine. Seriously, great job! I didn't even have to bother!
 
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Ooh I like the sound of some of his spells, looks like they could get real creative and out there with his magic which was what I wanted to hear from directly from his dedicated fans.
Alright you guys did it, he has my support , as you can tell by my profile magic users are intriguing to me and the spells you brought up for Erdrick does make it sound like it could perfectly translate to a very good Smash moveset.
 

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One thing I’m really hoping for is that they use his adult design if he’s in. Do you guys expect Nintendo to go with his classic design though or do you think we are more likely to have him represented as his gameboy color version considering that was his first western appearance?
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With so many possiblities for Erdrick's moveset and representation, i hope we don't end up in a situation similar to Cloud's where his moves don't really reflects the way he fights in the original game.
The way Cloud fights in the original game is to stand there and occasionally run up and swing at an enemy.

I thought using his Limit Breaks for all his other moves was a really good decision. Even if, in FF7, they all act like Final Smashes.
 

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Thanks for reminding me of Fizzle.

I love the idea of having debug magic which is something we don’t see a lot of.

Fizzle locking an opponent from his/her special moves could put a stop to spammy playstyle, not to mention, locking an opponent from their recoveries sounds great. Wonder if they could tune it so that it doesn’t become an OP move.

Also, Sap/Kasap to make opponents receive more damage and knock back temporarily would be cool. Both of these could end up being part of the Magic Menu special.

I think magic Menu + the assorted of offensive and de buff magic is the way to make Erdrick have his own unorthodox Magic Swordsman style that’s unlike anything else we got so far.

One thing I’m really hoping for is that they use his adult design if he’s in. Do you guys expect Nintendo to go with his classic design though or do you think we are more likely to have him represented as his gameboy color version considering that was his first western appearance? View attachment 211595
Most definitely adult, as that is the image that Square Enix has been pushing for the last two decades.
 

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Saw this, gave me a laugh:

Granted, Sugiyama defence in this is a little bit questionable. While his opinions on homosexuality and World War II aren't quite as radical as this image would make out, they're still well outside an acceptable opinion on these topics. One can support Dragon Quest and Erdrick without having to justify Sugiyama's homophobia and racism.
It's the classic "should I defend this asshole" situation >_>

Because the last thing I want in the world is to say anything that can help a war crime denier and a homophobe. Yet is it right to just stay still as people on Twitter add increasingly worse things on that dark list just for the sake of hurting an IP they don't want in a party-like fighting game? I don't quite know. Personally the only time I reacted was when someone said Horii was the homophobe.
 
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The way Cloud fights in the original game is to stand there and occasionally run up and swing at an enemy.

I thought using his Limit Breaks for all his other moves was a really good decision. Even if, in FF7, they all act like Final Smashes.
I feel like they could've kept the limit breaks specials when the gauge is fully charged and have magic-based attacks when it's not.

Regardless i'm still happy to have him in the game at all (wich could've not been the case, so i'm very grateful for that.)
 

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This is cool. This weekly Shonen Jump has Luffy wearing Erdricks outfit
Not only that, but it looks like it's based off his Famicom design, too. Glad the lingering nostalgia for that design is still there.
Uhh, heh. different colors but yeah, shield inspired by the roto logo.
Can't scoff at erdrick's influence anyway ;)

I wonder why midoriya is in a medieval armor :O
The color palette looks consistent with Erdrick's modern colors, I think. Blue tunic, orange shirt, and a red cape.
 
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Not only that, but it looks like it's based off his Famicom design, too. Glad the lingering nostalgia for that design is still there.

The color palette looks consistent with Erdrick's modern colors, I think. Blue tunic, orange shirt, and a red cape.
Dont you mean the monster battle road design? That's where it was red cape and blue tunic right?
 

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It was, but I also see the color palette in stuff like alternate costumes, like this one from Heroes.
Yes but Dragon Quest heroes was released much later.

I guess we could say the modern design has the red cape since battle road. I actually like the purple one better, but if they're in smash they'd probably have both as options, maybe.
 
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This is cool. This weekly Shonen Jump has Luffy wearing Erdricks outfit
That’s awesome!!
(Would’ve been funny if it was Goku but Luffy looks good!) just shows how much of an impact that design has.

And you just reminded me that I had a dream.

I dreamt that a DQ character was revealed in a random pic upload on the smashbros site. And it was just a casual screenshot of Lucina and Solo from DQ4, just sort of lying on the ground like a typical scene from a JRPG where they’re looking at the horizon, except here I could clearly see their faces.
 

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Sigh...

I only did okay on my quiz. I got maybe 9 out of 12 questions right, and I'm being generous.

Pro-tip: when you switch majors, don't be hasty and get an upper division class right away. Stick to lower division ones and learn some fundamentals before any upper division courses have the chance to confuse and really test you.

I'm gonna keep trying my best until the semester is over, but I do have an upside, which is that if I have to retake the class, I have enough savings in my account to do so. Not that I want to spend the money on that when it could go to new classes, of course.

I wish studying worked like grinding in Dragon Quest, where instead of fighting monsters for hours I could just read all the assigned readings / notes and instantly understand and internalize it all. But there's more to it than that, of course.
 

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Well all you can do is do your best and try to make things work in any case.

This is unrelated, but could I ask no one to post any Avengers end game spoilers in this thread?
I'm not going to see the movie until next week, and I'm going to avoid; the general thread during that time. I'd still like to visit here and the persona threads.
 
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