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The Elite Four Challenge: Rules and Guidelines!
- Thread starter M.K
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1. Heatran comes in on your ScarfTran. Now you risk losing your ScarfTran to Earth Power, or getting Dugtrio OHKO'd by even an FF'd Flamethrower, or hell, the Heatran using Substitute. And if instead you start by putting in Scarf Dugtrio and get a kill, Bronzong comes in on revenge turn and does any number of things to set up. There's always the option of double switching, I suppose, but you better be really certain.
2. Kingdra exists.
2. Kingdra exists.
To clarify, you can change your team, but it means that any progress you've done will be lost (IE, if you've beat 2 E4 and then want to change your team, you can, but you'll have to battle the two you already beat again.)
The Real Gamer
Smash Hero
I challenge Chibo...?
What time would be good for you dude?
EDIT: I just really want that Pokeball... **** the masterball
What time would be good for you dude?
EDIT: I just really want that Pokeball... **** the masterball
Circa
Smash Champion
Anyone with eyes who isn't a complete moron knows Dugtrio is exclusively a revenge killer. So this scenario isn't even going to happen in the first place. Instead you switch in something that is mostly useless (which is actually pretty easy to determine with this being mono-type and all), sac it, and bring in Dugtrio afterward. Now you still have a ScarfTran and Dugtrio's got the opposing Heatran down for the count. The only way this scenario doesn't possibly work is if Heatran's running Shuca, in which case it's still pretty much out of commission and ScarfTran still gets the opportunity to run through the team.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
If you have AIM, just IM me whenever I'm on and I can usually play instantly. If not just leave a VM on my profile. I play on Smogon Server with the name ChiboSempai btw.
Enzo
Smash Lord
okay, thanks Mic.
I can't see Dugtrio being a bad idea switching into a Choice Specs Jolteon, but sure, I'll accept being called a complete moron.
All I do is press the buttons that claim to be super effective, anyway.
Wave⁂
Smash Legend
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You be surprised how far that got me.
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Remember when I was teaching you, I told you that a lot of people make sub-par decisions? At any time you see these behaviors, you should encourage them, or even extend your strategy to encourage the opponent to play worse. It is this poor decision-making that separates the better players from the worse ones, and any time you can make your opponent play worse is strictly advantageous for you. Some examples:
1. Using the chat function for the online simulators, encourage poor play. Intentionally act like you don't know what you're doing, and audibly tell them so. Ask your opponent things like "does rock hit bug for extra? I forget." This is advantageous because it usually only takes one blatant err for the opponent to dumb you down in his mind, which can be done early into the match where leads are unpredictable anyway. If you're using the chat correctly, sometimes you don't even have to make a poor move choice. When using chat, type in your verbal bait and intentionally let it sit there for a couple minutes so they are less likely to miss it.
2. Encourage poor decisions in the battle itself by doing one. When they make stupid decisions later, they can justify it to themselves, because no matter what they did that was stupid, it's not as stupid as what you did, right? The best way to do this is to make any given decision feel "fun" in nature. A great example of this is the move Outrage. It's extremely easy to say something like "all I do is outrage and I win" and the best part is that most competitive players will actually agree with you. Anyone who understands pokemon knows that outrage is just a strong attack that feigns a choice lock and removes your ability to switch without a 50% stat increase. Normally not the best deal around. However, unnecessary or risky use of Outrage is an excellent way to lose and should be encouraged as much as possible. This is the only time a strictly non-advantageous decision can be made with a positive outcome, and can also be confused with "prediction" and again is usually adopted by the opponent after only one misplay. Due to the nature of the game being heavily asymmetrical with information, you can often take advantage of your opponents when you yourself have no technical advantage whatsoever. The bold part of the quote above is brilliant.
When you beat an opponent that you should have lost to, never tell them. Instead, thank them to yourself for being bad. It is the bad players that allow the relative goodness of their peers, and you would not be a good player were they not worse than you.
![Terywj [태리]](/data/avatars/l/71/71007.jpg?1555906021){kind=avatar}
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Speaking of which, practically got swept by Chibo. Sent all my stuff to F8AL and yadda yadda. Considering changing my team LOL. 
Enzo
Smash Lord
I'm confused are we supposed to PM our teams to F8AL or post them in the league registration thread.
I posted mine already on the league registration thread.
I posted mine already on the league registration thread.
PM the team to F8AL, I think.
The Real Gamer
Smash Hero
So far I'm 1-0 I just beat Chibo.
Where are the records kept?
Where are the records kept?
You both have to PM logs and teams to F8AL, who will confirm the win as well as make sure everyone's following the rules in terms of teams, etc.
Enzo
Smash Lord
Ah ok thanks Ankoku
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
Wait so if you post the team in teh registration sub forum it doesn't count?
Then why the hell do we still have that for?
F8AL
Banned via Warnings
I'll be posting the results tonight.
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
So I hear Chibo sucks and since my team's been approved, I guess I'll challenge Chibo first
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
lol im 2-1 w/ e4 challenges get@me ur goin down
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
When do you want to "take me down"?
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
More like 1-1 since you played me once. Get your math right, Chibo.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
more like 2-1, u werent my first challenger. i 5-0d riddle before you
hit me up on aim to challenge. il be available rly late tonight
hit me up on aim to challenge. il be available rly late tonight
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Chibo did you really just do that? I was saying your record is really 1-1 since you defeated me one time, and a victory against me isn't really much at all. Hence if you won two times, and one of them was against me, two minus one equals one. Therefore, 1-1.more like 2-1, u werent my first challenger. i 5-0d riddle before you
hit me up on aim to challenge. il be available rly late tonight
Nowhere did I say that I was the first person to challenge you.
The humor would've been easier to detect if you had said "because one of those wins was against me."
Riddle
Smash Lord
Crit, flinch and mono water johns. PLUS it was a 4-0Chibo said:
Terywj [태리]
Charismatic Maknae~
Wait what humor. My post wasn't meant to be funny.
Anyways. I'll be resubmitting a team since I have no clue why I ran UU Stall. I love my UU Offense.
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
Get on AIM thenmore like 2-1, u werent my first challenger. i 5-0d riddle before you
hit me up on aim to challenge. il be available rly late tonight
Riddle
Smash Lord
I beat Ankoku, sending log to F8al.
I'm lazy so I'm just gonna confirm that Riddle won. On the bright side, pink is an excellent color.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
not home, will be at like... midnight est?Get on AIM then
Riddle
Smash Lord
g rr noAnkoku said:
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
logs r still needed to make sure teams didnt change n stuff
how did u lose ankokou!?
riddle did u change ur team?
I made a series of poor decisions and Riddle made a series of good ones in a matchup of relatively even teams. I am to understand that roughly the same thing led to the same sort of results in your game against him. As far as I know, he used the same team.
You should see the other match I had against him, though. Best one ever.
You should see the other match I had against him, though. Best one ever.
Enzo
Smash Lord
So is it you can only challenge a total of 1 E4 members per week
or can you challenge all 4 per week but only once for each.
or can you challenge all 4 per week but only once for each.
CT Chia
Smash Obsessed
if u lose to an e4 member, u have to wait a week before challenging that same one again
Fuelbi
Banned via Warnings
So I beat Chibo in a match and I'm now sending the log to F8AL
And eh, I hear Chill sucks the most next so I guess I'll go challenge him when are you open?
And Ulti, I still love you for helping me make that hax team <3
And eh, I hear Chill sucks the most next so I guess I'll go challenge him when are you open?
And Ulti, I still love you for helping me make that hax team <3
The Real Gamer
Smash Hero
Daaaaaang Fuelbi's callin ya'll mods OUT!!!
DO SOMETHIN BOUT ITTTT!!!!
you gettem Fuelbi
