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everybody always says this... are we playing the same PS1?
lol IMO it depends on what rotations you get. Like the fire and earth one usually ends with someone waiting on the left side and the other on the right. The the water one is probably the better of the four, the left side(windmill) is good for downB, utilt, etc. And the right if you don't go on the platforms utilts and uairs. I never get the grass one when I play DK, but if you chill in the middle by the platforms you can do good. But I hate the edges on ps1, to me if you want long blastzones go Halbred, but Diddy would probably own there.everybody always says this... are we playing the same PS1?
It always seems to me that stage is smaller than the average stage like FD or even SV.
What happens a lot, is that I get edgeguarded, and it looks like I'll be able to survive, but all the sudden I just die off the side.
Is it actually big???
If I won on YI i always take diddys to brinstar. The bananas aren't so useful there.
Its great for confusing. If they are on the ledge on the left and their invincibilty runs out if you f smash you will probably hit because it will last longer because of the hitbox extender. But maybe pros don't fall for that stuff... without great DI you can die really early there.
Diddy runs faster and his aerials are much faster than DKs. That's why I'm not so sure if Brinstar is a good stage... because Diddy could just be in DKs face all the time throwing too fast attacks at him.
Pretty sure Luigi runs faster than Wario. is Luigi faster than Wario? No. Diddy's aerials are also slow. In fact, Diddy's air game is a complete joke to DK and his bair. I've never had any trouble making Diddy my ***** in the air and his juggling is garb. His aerials are really laggy(aerially) like Wolf's, and close range with little/no disjointedness. This is why Brinstar is ideal for DK because DK can kill in the air and he also beats Diddy in the air. In DK's face with fast attacks? His CQC game is kinda bad, I just grab them if they try to jabgrab me and his jab cancel also gets him grabbed. D tilt is alright with nice followups though.
lol, every aerial diddy has is faster than DKs.
Uh..What? DK's bair is faster than any of Diddy's aerials(similar speed to Diddy's bair even though it doesn't compare in terms of range). When Diddy performs an aerial he is unable to do anything for an excruciatingly long period of time unless he lands immediately, unless the aerial was bair. DK on the other hand has one aerial, bair, that is so incredibly useful that it alone pushes DK's air game past Diddy's. DK's air speed is also extremely good, with above average acceleration IIRC, meaning his spacing is out of Diddy's league. Diddy is not a problem for DK in the air.
Yeah, Diddys aerials all come out ealier than DKs. And if Diddy just throws a banana at DKs bair DK is screwed because he'll face Diddy. And Diddy can close the gap between them with his side B which he can use as an aerial and it has good priority.
They all come out earlier? Well that's great, but it doesn't make a lick of difference since DK will be spacing Diddy. Also, why would DK throw bairs long range at a naner-wielding Diddy? Sounds like you don't know how these characters play. Side B? Well, aerials don't have priority, it just has a lingering hit and it still loses to bair, plus it's incredibly unsafe on block(D smash anyone?)
lol, DKs spacing won't help him that much, because Diddys bananas have greater range if he throws them. And what else would DK do against a Diddy in his face? Not jump if Diddy controls the ground with his naners? DK has to jump to actually be able to do something. And Diddy then is probably close to DK or else he wouldn't have to jump away. And of course Diddy wouldn't do the kick against a DK on the ground (unless he's sure it'll hit or he goes for the grab). I meant when both are in the air and Diddy threw a naner at him so DK faces Diddy and can only fair/uair (uair probably loses to Diddys side B kick or maybe they trade hits).
Uh..huh? DK's spacing is what makes him a High/High mid tier character. Without it, he'd be Ganon. Diddy won't always have a banana in his hand, and if he does, your MO is not to bair him. DK doesn't have to jump, though he will, but he doesn't have to SH double bairs or anything like that. Watch some Diddy vs DK matches with the top DKs competing, and you'll see that the theory crafting you're doing right here amounts to precisely..****. Nothing. Matchup advice should come from experience, not from speculation. DK only faces Diddy if he was DIing towards him. Here's option B, DK uses bair to catch the naner and hit Diddy at the same time, then tosses it downwards and follows up. DK never has to face Diddy in the air, that only happens if you recklessly approach with bair.
I'm beginning to think you have no idea what you're talking about when it comes to DK's gameplay.
What does this have to do with anything? I know that. Against Diddy it doesn't help him that much though.
What else could DK do though? Diddy beats everything else DK has.
If DK doesn't jump he'll get ***** from Diddy. DK can't do **** against Diddy on the ground.
lol, I watches some matches, but even Nanerz vs CBK isn't that good. He did many mistakes. Diddy can just rush DK down und DK will be pressured so much there's little he can do.
Well yeah I fought against a Diddy with DK and he got me from 0-100 % without me doing any damage to him, because I just wasn't able to do anything because I was pressured too much. Every time I wanted to shieldgrab him he did it before me. Every time I wanted to attack him (if I even could do something because DK get's combo'd so heavily from Diddy) a banana hit me or my attacks were way too slow.
Really? Didn't know that you'll face the direction you DI'd to when getting hit... well that doesn't help DK much, because DK has to approach Diddy so he has to move in his direction. And good luck by always catching the banana with the bair... DK will never have to face Diddy? How can DK approach if not from the air? He can't do it on the ground. The only thing he could do besides bair is side B which is easily avoided (of course it can hit every now and then, but not often unless the Diddy is careless), fair which is also easily avoided/shielded and punished, or uair, but DK has to come really close for this and it also can easily be shielded and punished.
You just don't know how much DK can get ***** by Diddy...
Of course Wario can easily move around against Luigi and try to avoid his attacks because he's so fast in the air. This talk was never a matchup between Wario and Luigi (at least not for me). You just said Wario is faster than Luigi, which is true, but not in all aspects. Luigi is really fast with his down B on the ground and he can rise up from it. Luigi can even do 3 aerials in 1 short hop like MK. Isn't that fast to you? Wario is more mobile and can move faster, but Luigis attacks come out faster which can make him look faster than Wario.
Yeah, I just meant if DK is in the air and Diddy is on the ground he can easily catch up with DK and attack him from below or behind with a banana. And DKs aerial game only dominates Diddy if he doesn't has a banana in his hand. And there's still side B and the airdodge...
not as much as you think
explain plz? good DI<iffy DI on FD?
That's why, dude.
Uh..yeah it does.
Bait the banana toss and grab the banana with an aerial or dodge like everyone else.
lol dude just shieldgrab. DK's grab will beat Diddy's in this situation. You can also tap A to grab the banana and retreat or throw it straight down. You could also catch the banana with a bair and hit Diddy at the same time. By the way, Diddy's DA isn't hard to shieldgrab, learn your timing and it's easy.
I just listed 3 options, but you could also SA punch. lol 'happen to', you do it as a reaction to the banana toss. I'm starting to question your skills dude.
Having Diddy under you isn't too bad. His anti-air is mediocre.
I have an explanation, you're not doing it right.
DK can bait an approach because Diddies just love that glide toss. That's how you beat Diddy on the ground.
lol yes I do, I've faced ADHD.
Attack speed has nothing to do with mobility.
Diddy can't run under you if you're bairing him.
Share Your Secrets.
You can't shieldgrab if he dash attacks right after the banana throw unless maybe if you powershield it. And the Diddy always hit me with his dash attack if I tried to grab him... and if you wait till it ends he might be behind you or hit you out of your shield (or he just grabs you). Retreating is impossible if you catch the banana unless you jump away and catch it in the air.
Hmm... maybe, I doubt it's easy though. And the Diddy can still shield after the banana throw and he doesn't have to slide to DK all the time so it's easy to waste the punch.
As long as you have your second jump or are near the edge, yes... but if there are bananas on the ground and a Diddy chasing you it isn't that good =/ unless there are platforms to land.
It's not that easy. Diddy can play it really safe and glide toss with backwards sliding. What happens next? You avoided the 1st banana and he takes the second one and brings himself in a better position and everything repeats...
You just said "Wario is faster than Luigi".
If you full jump he can. If you sh you risk getting hit by bananas...
You don't control it if you catch a banana, because DKs banana game sucks. Diddy can easily take every banana back to his control. Bair won't stop every peanut unless you're so near that Diddy has to stop or he gets hit. Diddy won't die at 50 % if he plays careful. He just has to avoid fsmash and the punch which is easy if you play it safe and have it in your mind.
You're probably right...
