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This. ^ People tend to underestimate fsmash's vertical priority as well, but yeah, coming from a Kirby main, it's really not that difficult to snag someone with it if you know what you're doing. Also, Kirby's bair can **** Ike (this said coming from the experience of facing some really good Ikes; it's almost inevitable avoiding it half of the time if you can space it and time it well, since it's such a fast-paced and well-extended move).Heh. If you'd faced a good Kirby, you wouldn't be saying that about dat Fsmash.
You mean right before he lands down? (Sorry for sounding like a total nub, but not really sure what you mean.) You can also bair him out of his up b when he reaches the top of it or just use any aerial on him from behind. It requires some decent timing, though...c.kirby you can hit ike out of aether with the shock wave on his upb if you didnt know
I love Kirby's utilt the best. Sets up for a whole rack of aerial strings. I find his dtilt hard to hit someone with (unless you've jabbed once first) if you're facing an exceptional player... It's easy to grab Kirby out of because of its ending lag and it doesn't extend out as far as ftilt.kirby has fun tilt normals
dtilt to poke thru shields
ftilt as a punish poke
utilt after fthrow>uair juggles <3
Normally in that given situation, I would just go in for a grab to down throw punish instead, followed up by a couple of utilts, then uair/bair, depending on the person's DI (if their percentage is low enough, that is). Because from what I've experienced, if you try poking their shield through tilts or whatever, they'll then either spot dodge or roll away (though dtilt does have the opportunity of hitting/tripping them out of their shield more likely so, like you said, it still wouldn't be quite as effective for racking up damage, unless you could get in a quick fmash afterward... but I find it more of a lost cause, really). I only usually dtilt someone after I've done a quick one-hit jab on them, because it then sets them up for it easily.yes the projectile portion when he lands. Its piss hard to hit him out of the arch of aether though
c.kirby when you run into someone holding their shield alot, dtilt alot more i think you'll be pleased with how it safely pokes through shields. If they trip you need to follow up quickly though
Heh, not only that but I'm better against high-tier (more used, I guess) characters. I've played Chompy a lot, he's a pretty good Diddy. You're lucky you didn't go Snake.kirby ***** ike pretty much, i honestly wouldn't evne call it even.
all of his smashes are pretty easy to avoid unless the ike player is crazy good at mindgames and/or just extremely lucky.
the only thing ike really has in most of his matchups is his Fair, his Nair, and Jab, course all of em are pretty good, but nonetheless those are honestly all he really has got. (least IMO )
PS. ggs Zulo dear god i've got the worst diddy kong and zss in existance XP when you play as diddy and you can't even keep some kind of control on your banana's, there is a biiiiiig problem.
But you see AV, no one is as good in self******y as you.BlueZelda. If you're going to act arrogant like me, atleast be realistic about it.![]()
Some of the worlds best players do that in tournaments. Are you calling them gay? I once saw a DDD win m2k by doing that.But you see AV, no one is as good in self******y as you.
Oh yeah, Kirby's on BB doesn't count as they are ********. Good kirbys are annoying and will always try to gimp/WoP you. Never seen that on BB. And no, swallowing and spitting ike out underneath the stage is not called gimping. Its just called being gay.
Edit: I didn't censor that![]()
Lol, it's true. For whatever reason, there are barely any good Kirby players on BB. Mostly spammers and ones who just try to suck you up for half the match. I think out of all the characters, he's the least likely you'll find a "decent" player using with. I've seen pros on virtually every other character more than several times or so, except for Kirby. I've only played against one Kirby that actually knew what he was doing out of all the rooms I've had on Wi-Fi. Now, I would say Zelda or Peach, however, are the character of choice when it comes to finding skilled players online for some reason... Most of the pros I've fought selects either one of them for at least one round in the several matches we'll have together. Maybe they feel it's more humiliating to try and kick your butt with a female character? Lulz.But you see AV, no one is as good in self******y as you.
Oh yeah, Kirby's on BB doesn't count as they are ********. Good kirbys are annoying and will always try to gimp/WoP you. Never seen that on BB. And no, swallowing and spitting ike out underneath the stage is not called gimping. Its just called being gay.
Edit: I didn't censor that![]()
I love grabbing a player with Olimar when they're at 0 percent and up throwing them, followed by a dashed usmash, then uair, and then finishing it off with up special. Perfect way to start off a match.So no one has seen a red olimar kicking *** and not camping(unless im winning)
Good olimars are so hard to find. All of them are usually trolls but i did have a good nolimar dittos last week.
I love trolling a tp with olimar, it confuses the hell out of them because
1. olimar(really?)
2. WTF, how am i already at 100 and hes still at 0.
3. Why does he keep on spamming throws/pikmin/smash attack
I miss doing that.
I would normally just leave in that sort of situation. I find it ridiculous how frequent it is that there are AFK players about, and on TB no less. If you need to leave somewhere for a while/whatever, leave the stinkin' room if you must and don't ruin it for your teammate who'll have to work extra hard just to guard you. Seriously, players like these are just clogging up the servers. Congrats on your wins, though, by the way.Don't you just love when you win Team Battle with an idle partner? It happens every once in a great while, and it happened once more about 40 minutes ago. And neither opponent was being merciful; they were just both really bad. Of course it had to come to sudden death, but it's always a great victory when it happens. Needless to say, one of the opponents left in humiliation after that embarrassment.
Update: As fate would have it, I repeated this feat with a different group just moments ago! They were a little more capable, and it went to sudden death once more. I took out one of them, and a bomb hit both myself and the other remaining foe. Fortunately I was further from the blast line and was credited with the win. Looks like these replays will go nicely in my collection. :-)
Lol, you should get some vids in of that.lol at this red ganon/gray snake
all he does is pick a target and **** it [that target being the next person that comes in the room]
You guys should double team both of them, then.its gotten boring though
you'd all prefer to watch the green GW vids because that *** tried to fight me and p2 was not having that
saved last one going ganon loll
ROFL its ganon team vs purple ZSS LETS GO
and my ganon is ***
LOL the Tink watching is giving her free wins ahahahah
Then you haven't encountered good Kirby players and I mean real good ones because they also go for gimps and walls of pain and are able to stay in the lead even against Kirby's bad match ups. What helps them is they are masked by all the really bad Kirby players we run into out there so we expect the Stone, Ftilt, jab, inhale tactics that are very common to them. So this is why random players out there get beaten by good Kirby players. As for Kirbicides, that isn't consider cheap or gay since it is a tactic Kirby can deploy at any time he wants and if you fall for it it is your own fault. Also it is something you should consider whenever Kirby is near the edge grounded or in the air. Also Kirby can gimp by footstools simply by pretending to do the Kirbicide then when the player escapes and can footstool then. Characters with good vertical recovery have better chances of making it back.Oh yeah, Kirby's on BB doesn't count as they are ********. Good kirbys are annoying and will always try to gimp/WoP you. Never seen that on BB. And no, swallowing and spitting ike out underneath the stage is not called gimping. Its just called being gay.
I don't fall for that anyone thanks to my sis maining kirby and doing that every single time.Then you haven't encountered good Kirby players and I mean real good ones because they also go for gimps and walls of pain and are able to stay in the lead even against Kirby's bad match ups. What helps them is they are masked by all the really bad Kirby players we run into out there so we expect the Stone, Ftilt, jab, inhale tactics that are very common to them. So this is why random players out there get beaten by good Kirby players. As for Kirbicides, that isn't consider cheap or gay since it is a tactic Kirby can deploy at any time he wants and if you fall for it it is your own fault. Also it is something you should consider whenever Kirby is near the edge grounded or in the air. Also Kirby can gimp by footstools simply by pretending to do the Kirbicide then when the player escapes and can footstool then. Characters with good vertical recovery have better chances of making it back.