The Bakery - Realised I can still edit the thread title!

[Denzi]

My crewmate Pierce7D explained this to me.

That makes sense, because Marth gets hit hard by this. The lag that's added on is the lag you would recieve if you had been in the air, phantasmed/firebirded, and then landed (which, lucky for Falco, is hardly anything). It's commonly known as the triple jump glitch and it does indeed affect every character, just some more than most. It's good to know this because it can not only help your own recovery, but also help get you kills/free damage vs other players, so pay attention to how they grab the ledge + get back onstage.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Now I'm going to have to find all the aerials that auto cancel and try to remember all of, the applicable, S/A-tiers....

 

[AvoiD]

Bleach, why not add the Phantasm guide to Falco boards guide as well? Just a summary of all that you posted though.

 

[BleachigoZX]

I will but I want to finish that post, I've always wanted to write upsomething like that.

 

[thexsunrosered]

What you guys are talking about is called RCO or Recovery Carryover Lag. You've already explained it enough, so I'm just helping by giving you the name.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Falco's are a miniority. Just like the kinds of people who main him.

Cough..

There's me, you, Kuro, Velox and Denzi who are always around.
Emperor Time and Vlade are here pretty regularly.
Whenever there's a matchup discussion or something, VM TommyG, Kismet and DEHF.

Cough cough?

 

[BleachigoZX]

Hey Xonar welcome to the Falco boards.

Usually we don't like it when new boarders post, but if you can gain our acceptance you'll be fine. Welcome

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Bleachigo, mind explaining a bit more about the whole thing with the lag frames from UpB recoveries, that vid, and the whole autocanceling with the aerials. I'm like a person who walked into the middle of a conversation.

Hey Xonar welcome to the Falco boards.

Usually we don't like it when new boarders post, but if you can gain our acceptance you'll be fine. Welcome

lul xD

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Hey Xonar welcome to the Falco boards.

Usually we don't like it when new boarders post, but if you can gain our acceptance you'll be fine. Welcome

I feel scarred for life : (

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I feel scarred for life : (

Once you get over the starting shock, you feel fine.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Bleachigo, mind explaining a bit more about the whole thing with the lag frames from UpB recoveries, that vid, and the whole autocanceling with the aerials. I'm like a person who walked into the middle of a conversation.



lul xD

If you use a UpB to grab the edge the game adds lag to the next time you touch the floor. (Regardless of how you get back onto the stage from the ledge grab)

If you choose to jump though, you can throw out a aerial that Auto-Cancels (Dair/Bair, idk what else Auto-Cancels) to eliminate those extra frames.

Auto cancel means that there is no lag if you hit the floor within certain time with the Aerial.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

If you use a UpB to grab the edge the game adds lag to the next time you touch the floor. (Regardless of how you get back onto the stage from the ledge grab)

If you choose to jump though, you can throw out a aerial that Auto-Cancels (Dair/Bair, idk what else Auto-Cancels) to eliminate those extra frames.

Well Bleachigo, I think you found your reason for why ledge hopped lasers lag at times upon getting onto the stage.

 

[BleachigoZX]

Kinda, there are other reasons. I still can't find them though.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Might it have been if you tried to FF during the jump?

 

[Lord Chair]

The whole point with the extra landing lag is not so much that you have to keep track of it when you know it'll be there, but rather when you forget to keep track of it.

Ledgejumping, failing, getting juggled only to finally land 10 seconds later experiencing the one thing you didn't expect to happens, 17 frames of lag. Juggle starts all over again, or you just eat a fsmash. The main thing is that whatever you do, if your opponent noticed you upBing on the stage and keeps track of it, there is no way he can miss a punish when you finally land. He just has to run at you and shieldgrab whatever aerial you use to cancel the lag.

tl;dr: Watch your footing, or die.

 

[BetaZealot]

I've got a tournament tomorrow!

I'll try to get some matches recorded so you guys can give me tips and correct me. :D

 

[Teran]

Lol.
Xonar got owned.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Fack Velox you goin to CiB?

We will play no spike friendlies there
We will.

No doubt.

 

[wangston]

very interesting..... indeed very interesting.

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Fack Velox you goin to CiB?

We will play no spike friendlies there
We will.

No doubt.

Where is the tourney info?

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Where is the tourney info?

Well this is the confirmed list.

...
Sykes
Sylph
Tayim
Tero
Tham
Ti8us
Toshiaki
Vegeta
Velox
Vitruu
Xenn
Yikarur
Yomi
Zack
ZeroFrames

CiB = Cologne is Brawlin', sounds familiar?

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Apprently there is more than one Velox in the world 0.o

I'm not attending a eurpoean tournament. I'm in the middle of the US.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Apprently there is more than one Velox in the world 0.o

I'm not attending a eurpoean tournament. I'm in the middle of the US.

Thought it might've been cause of vacation of some sort..

Baww'd

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

Thought it might've been cause of vacation of some sort..

Baww'd

That would have been epic if it came true.

*alternative reality* First person I meet from SWF is not from the US, it's from europe

 

[AvoiD]

The first person I met was Xyro77.

D;

Change thread title pl0x.

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

The first person I met was Xyro77.

D;

Change thread title pl0x.

The first person I met was my mother.

Real truth.

 

[Emperor Time]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zzkJbWl45kU

Every God loving American should watch this.

Night. ZZZZ

 

[Denzi]

^ That was amazing.

I'm leaving for vacation tomorrow guys, so don't expect to see me for at least a week.

 

[clowsui]

if someone's willing to record unlimited replays i could have vids up by monday or tuesday

 

[Elyssa Xey Hexen]

I'll be gone for the next 8 days on what you could sort of call a road trip. See you all next sunday.

 

[Tennet]

I'm leaving tomorrow for band camp. and brawl will be with me =D will be back on friday unless i sleep the rest of the day...

 

[#HBC | ZoZo]

Only one survives...

 

[BleachigoZX]

Nah mofo I'm still here....

jk I have dental camp today, see you soon.

 

[Emperor Time]

Wow, I'm alone.....

 

[Mando254]

Wha? Going to camp this late? ._.

 

[Tennet]

=O I decided to make a texture thread on SWF.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=8064945&posted=1#post8064945

check it out =D

 

[King Funk]

Well, I guess I'm going to try and act like a replacement here. I'm waiting for my "smash director" promotion, so I pretty much have nothing to do until then. ^^

****, it's been a long time since I wandered around the Falco boards. So what are the awesome subjects of discussion here?

=O I decided to make a texture thread on SWF.
http://www.smashboards.com/showthread.php?p=8064945&posted=1#post8064945

check it out =D

Can you make a personal one for me, pleeeease?

 

[AvoiD]

Camp lulz.

Start adding WiFi videos to the video thread. D;

aksdjf;laksj

 

[Tennet]

King read the top, PM me =P although i can't do any textures until next saturday.

 

[Vlade]

I'm back guys

Since when did Ozz leave? Why?