Sorry for the double post. >_> didn't notice you had this here lol.
Playing outside of the style that is best for your character is definitely a negative and most definitely not a bad argument.
How is it outside your play style? Fox is a campy/agro character. If you're not winning via camping on a small stages chances are you should be playing more aggressive.
If you read what I said you'd see I mentioned that. Although its not always easy to land a tipper if a fox is getting up from a platform marths will almost always get at the very least an uptilt or two.
when did an uptilt mean death? Never it racks up damage thats it, you can get out of it.
The point I was trying to make is that the platform layout makes it more difficult to approach than typical platform levels. This fact is undeniable so surely it is in marths advantage in comparison to typical platform levels.
they both reap the benefits of platforms.
Its definitely a variable because it effects fox's recovery more than it does marths. I honestly dont even want to hear you arguing this point. I have mentioned in previous posts that marth having to sweetspot the ledge is a factor but it is definitely not as much as what is taken away from fox. And if you are playing a good marth usually just illusioning onto the stage will result in a hit.
it's a hard sweet spot thats easy to miss. getting hit doesn't = death, DI whatever hit comes your way recover again mix up your options.
If I ban FD against a marth 75% of the time they will choose battlefield. So someone should tell the marths of the world that they are making a huge mistake. Dont just assume lordknight knows more about the matchup than me. I play people at the same level as he and am just as knowledgable. If your basing it purely off skill that he knows more than I do than maybe I should have told you to just listen "simply because I know the matchup better" than you
Just becaues you play good people doesn't mean you, your self are good. I've played with Cort, PC frequently. I've played Cactuar most chances I get at tourneys. I usually seek out numerious good player or decent ones and play them.
So saying you know the match up because you've played good marths or what not, isn't enough. I don't claim to be an expert on the fox vs marth match up. People say its my best match up, to be honest I hate it simply becaues I have to constantly be on my toes. I perfer to fight sheiks with my marth then fox. =\ as it seems to me, you don't know how to fight marth at all. >_>
The fact is I would say that most good marths would say that battlefield is a bad spacie level and would be in marths favor in the matchup. Perhaps its just a bad level for L2k. I have never seen a good fox counter pick with battlefield and I see marths do it all the time. There must be a reason for that other than me feeling that its in marths favor.
Lol I've used this stage for countless times against fox, Fox has the advantage here. the only advantage marth has over fox here is edge guarding. once he gets fox off he can keep him off. other then that its to small for marth to really camp or keep fox away. Fox just needs to out pressure marth and Marth can be pretty screwed .
