Jssn
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yea, let us know as soon as you can what was decided...I'll talk with the owner and get his input on prices and such.
I'm just gonna throw this in again even if it makes me look dumb... but I just hope TekLounge doesn't mean $20 for singles and $35 for doubles... that makes sense in a way cuz If it ain't, it means they could end up loosing up to 50% of their share (as IHateMyBrother mentioned), which isn't really fair for them but if they're cool with it then that means they're really cool to deal with ^.^ but if it's the other way around... no need for me to say the obvious...
+++M!X+++
I was kinda going more to this too, if it is like that ($20 singles, $35 teams) then it's really obvious that it's screwing us players badly... not fair at all, They'll be making a profit of over 50% so if it's like that lol well then I refuse... there can be a better deal that can satisfied both sides, some understandable and reasonable deal... imo though, the most TekLounge should get off the pot can be 30-35%... 35% would be pushing it though, but it beat's a little over 60% obviouslyI think they are asking for $20 dollars for singles, and then $35 for the team that signs up. But I am not sure because that flyer is not clear. They say 20 dollars per person, and then 35 per both. So that could either mean 20 for both events and 35 if you come with a friend which means it will really end up being $17.50 each; or i guess its 20 dollars per event, and if you come with a friend u only pay 17.50 for doubles. This is kinda confusing as mixcoatl mentioned earlier please can someone clear this out.
So its a total of 37.50 i believe, and u can only aim for $150 (1st, and ONLY price)
nah, the owners of this bi-weeklies are Gordo and Volta (Andrew and Zach) they're cool friends and all, it's just TekLounge... since the beginning prizes where bad... if you win 1st place singles well you'll get a $50 gift card and had to be 14 entrees or less, the rest of the prizes where store hours (useless) 2nd place on singles and 1st and 2nd on teams got hours... if there was 15 entrees or more then we got $50 more (usually for teams)... and the fee for the tournament was $15 for both singles and Doubles... but yea in the end they used to get over 60% of the pot cuz c'mon everyone knew hours where pretty much useless even though in a way it was "money" prize but force on the store, I had so much hours myself for getting second and so on but never used them... that's why it makes sense the fees for singles and doubles are that high now, the pot **** is insane and its pretty much the same as before but no hours.. $5 more and we get just that much added to the 1st and "only" prize for each tourney... I just keep going cuz it's fun, everyone is great and it was only $15 for both tourneys and since it's small anyone can win it actually... so paying $15 and receiving $50 in return isn't that bad I guess... but yea we need a better deal, I'm focusing more on out of town Tourneys cuz the competition is insane and turnouts are way better... but I have faith that this can become a fair playground eventually ^.^POT ****!!!!!!!!
is not fun.
I guess wuts happening is that TL is not the only one making money of this tourneys, i bet hosts are not the actual people from TL, so that means that the money has to be split by 2 parties (tek lounge, and someone else). Therefor when taht happens none of them get enough money; and tek lounge wouldnt like that because is their electricity and their stablishment being used.
I guess its understandanble but it is still not fair for any players.
There has to be another solution.
POT **** = NO FUN.
Hey there Zach, I know you guys are not employees... and I figured Andrew was slam with wrestling but it's cool with me (hope hes kicking asss at the tournaments) ^.^ thanks for trying though and good luck later on tonight ^.^hey again guys, just in case this wasn't clear, I wanted to note that I'm not an official employee at Tek Lounge, I just host tourneys there
anyway! I've got a few ideas (and some of yours) that might allow us to make this more player friendly, i'll also clear up what the 35$ incudes, etc. I'll stop by there tonight and post later on, I apologize for the abscence of my co-host Andrew through the last few days, he's been extremely busy with wrestling, so I've been trying to get on the boards more than I usually do. Hope I can make this fair for both the players and store!
-Volta
haha you know whats funny, i allready saw you play, and few more from naples on youtube. I've been stalking the competition. That was the 1st thing i did before saying that i wanted to come. =)dunno if anyone is interested but here's my YouTube account where I have a good amount of matches of mostly TekLounge Tournaments, that CA$H tourney on Oct. Brawl Wars II (when I went to Venice -.-) and some friendlies... Jssn maybe you'll be interested in seeing some of them... anyhow my best match over all has to be the one titled "DewDaDash (DeDeDe) vs. M!Xcoatl (Snake) " it's funny too I think, hope someone bothers to see something ^.^
http://www.youtube.com/user/MixCoatlPro
lol cool, looking forward on playing your ummm Pit??? or who ever you play ^.^ and dammn you're lucky I haven't been in a tourney in forever -.- but I'm trying to be patient (trying to get people to come to my place) hehehe so I'm guessing you'll win tomorrows tourney no sweat ^.^ I'll wait for those videoshaha you know whats funny, i allready saw you play, and few more from naples on youtube. I've been stalking the competition. That was the 1st thing i did before saying that i wanted to come. =)
I look forward to playing ur snake, unfortunatly i dont have any videos online but we just had a practice tourny yesterday up here in tally and i placed third, and also ill be attending a tournament in pensacola tomorrow, so im pretty sure we are gona record those too. Anyways as soon as those vids r on youtube ill let u know.
What about my Wariooo...haha you know whats funny, i allready saw you play, and few more from naples on youtube. I've been stalking the competition. That was the 1st thing i did before saying that i wanted to come. =)
I look forward to playing ur snake, unfortunatly i dont have any videos online but we just had a practice tourny yesterday up here in tally and i placed third, and also ill be attending a tournament in pensacola tomorrow, so im pretty sure we are gona record those too. Anyways as soon as those vids r on youtube ill let u know.
I didnt know there was a ply n trade in naples, when was the last tourney, and when is the upcoming one, if there is a thread for it can someone please send the link.It might take awhile for people to recognize the place, as this is small town naples not orlando or miami, but with time the attendance should increase with trust, just look at the naples play-n-trade tournies. They've had turnouts of 40 or so ppl which amazes me.
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I didnt know there was a ply n trade in naples, when was the last tourney, and when is the upcoming one, if there is a thread for it can someone please send the link.
Last tournament I talked to the manager about this, said they go through a cycle of 6 games I think it was. Games can be added or taken off depending on attendance size at the respective game's tournaments and the potential popularity of a game (ie: Halo 3 > Tetris). Once each of the 6 games has had a tournament once, the cycle starts over.well the play-n-trade is right by the best buy in naples but the brawl tournies are pretty much just out of the blue every 3-4 months or so? The last brawl tourney at PnT was on Nov 1st but yeah... shouldnt expect one till January at the earliest unfortunately =/. There is no thread of it but you can ask the people that work there when they plan to have their next one. They probally wont have a date for you right now as the last one was just last month, but who knows maybe they have a date...
well at least the Pot **** isn't as big as I thought it was (though the difference isn't to big) but still making a profit of roughly 57% is insane, I've been to a few tourneys but never have I seen a place running it like TekLounge... maybe they just want things to run like this for the first tourney to get some money back from all the money invested in the "NEW" TekLounge??? but then again it's always kinda been like this anyways... I don't mind paying $35 for both singles and doubles although if I do enter doubles, I'll only be doing it with ****** so that we have a chance of winning, if there's no chance then no need to waste money... Singles is a for sure for me...okay so I stopped by yesterday, they pretty much said that they want to run this first tourney the way it is, and then from there they'll be more open to suggestion.
@JSSN
don't get excited for the play n' trade tourneys here
good to hear you'll be back in action, with you and Zach together it should look better from now on.i've been really busy lately with varsity wrestling and maintaining weight and what not and i deeply apologize. I haven't been part of any of these negotiations with the store, or Zach for that matter. I am fully opposed to a winner take all set up and i'll take that up with my co-host and the owner. i assure you the most important thing to me is the players interests and for that reason, i'm taking all of your suggestions into consideration. I havent even been to the remodeled tek lounge yet though so i'm definately out of the loop. I apologize for my absence and I will discuss this with Zach, also with all the prize suggestions coming in i'd like to remind all of you that we're still open to editing the rules and stages. any questions get at me at bollixandrew on aim or here on boards.
as everyone keeps saying this, TekLounge should just charge us for the venue... anywhere from $5 (standard) to $10... though places that charge $10 for venue fee are those that get turnouts of over 70 players so it makes sense for the jump hence c3, and Brawl wars but that was cut down to $5 cuz of the low attendance... just like I said before, both you Andrew and Zach should be dealing with TekLounge for the Venue fee and that is all!!! the fees for singles and doubles should be decided by us players, as well as prizes which should go up to 3rd place imo but yea for a place like TekLounge $5 is just about right for a fee but the way they are acting is most likely they will want to make more which in the end it screws us players (present)Cant this just be held like a normal tournament?
$35 dollars for both events its not that bad, but the priZes are ****, and guys say how u feel about it cuz seriouslly i dont think that all of you want to go to a $35 dollar tournament were only 1st place gets a priZe.
No i use jigglypuff, and captain falcon. But mostly jigglypuff.@Jssn
you use pit?
I just went to a house tournament in pensacola, it had a bout 18 people not too many but still a descent amount, it was 100% of the pot to the players and he even bought chips and soda, for everyone that wanted a snack. That turn out awesome.I wanna add too that if things don't go for the better in TekLounge, I'll be following ihatemybrothers footsteps... and that is making a house tourney... I was just talking about it with my crew and though my place isn't as fancy as nickys friends house, it has the space to have a decent size tourney... the only tournaments that happen around this area is just TLs, pNt (which is like every three to four months) and recently ihatemybrothers... the only good and fair tourney out of all of them is ihatemybrothers, it ran far better and there was no pot ****... prizes where good plus though the turnout wasn't as big as I expected, it was still a decent size tourney... nonetheless I am willing to follow ihatemybrothers footsteps and making a better playground in this area...
YaY a Jiggypuff user! when you come down here we gotta do some friendlies with my Kirby, a battle of puffs lolNo i use jigglypuff, and captain falcon. But mostly jigglypuff.
thanks for those videos, I can't wait to see them! and I'll keep in mind your offer, though I don't know if you'll be around when it happens, you're staying till the 4th right??? and since there's a few tourneys one after anoher... TekLounge, then gigs, ihatemybrothers, seibriks and then brawl wars III I was thinking if I host one it'll prob be early February or march latest...By the way im uploading the videos of this tournament right now, but im using my mac so im dowloading some programs that i need to convert .vob to .avi
As soon as the videos are up ill let you know Mixcoatl ..
**** I was there when Tory pulled the power cable out of the W!! on accident lol it was funny seeing you guys hurting each other and tryng to make it as close as possible before the game went outAlthough I love tek lounge's establishment, i'll admit..house tourneys are the way to do it. There is zero pot **** and usually good or at least different turnout in players. I loved nicky's tourney minus Tory rippiing the cord out of the wall during one of my 2v2 matches lol xD
@M!X i would be happy to help you set up a house tourney in any possible way, I'd be happy to donate food and/or drink, candy, supplies, etc. I believe food should be free at a house tourney, just either (1) limited to a "per person" status or in (2) everyone brings one thing as part of an extra entrance fee sort of thing, that way there will be a variety of snacks for everyone to enjoy, plus it would only cost an extra 1-3 dollars Also, I think doing your tourney after Brawl Wars 3, gigs, and seibriks tournies would benefit your attendence since you'll meet new players and we all know you're a good guy who could easily pull in some good competition to our little Naples branch of the Smash scene!
@Jssn
that's impressive man, i'm looking forward to playing against you!
I belive ihatemybrother said hes planning on making it on January 3rd or 4thwhen is ihatemybrothers tourney???
lol I really thought you played Jigg though I should of noticed you didn't ment it since you added C. Falcon... still Jiggs are fun to play against... I should start playing Jigg and show all of you she aint that bad >.<@Jssn
that's messed up man! haha well then i'm putting a new rule into play, it's called "Zach's annoyance with Pit's voice track rule" it means that I get to mute the TV while playing Pit! His battle "screams" are a threat to my sanity xD