TDB: SEASON 2! LEON (RE4) vs LARA CROFT

[Diddy Kong]

Mewtwo might very well beat Ness.

Really, exactly what did Ness beat on his own accord which is like omg wtf bbq hax like Joe says?
I'm really not all too impressed by the things the Mother boys beat in their games.

Inb4 game stats. Even a average Pigmask has more HP than Mewtwo in Mother 3. <_<; Pigmask are mostly fat, lazy, untrained guys who attack with lasors and decide to go on a paid vacation when swimming lolz.

At least Mewtwo is capable to killing other ubers in one hit. Ness didn't even beat Giygas, he just... stayed alive. "The player" while praying beat Giygas, which basically means... God beat Giygas? Can't beat God I guess...

 

[Emperor Time]

What did Ness kill in his games? Slugs? Only way you could say that is if you didn't play enough of EB.

He's fought dinosaurs, robots, humans twice his size, UFO's and elite starman warriors.

He kicks ***.

 

[payasofobia]

Holy maccaroni....since when did this MU become a WOT fest?

And what happened to the Iceys? Why are we disscusiing Ness vs Mewtwo? Didn't we make Mewtwo realistic?

Why am I so bald?




Seriously, we need order. This is becoming a flame-fest.

 

[JOE!]

we went off on a discussion of why mewtwo is a stronger psychic canonically than ness.

but if you want order, remember teh title says our current important topic

 

[Emperor Time]

IS THAT SOME KAMILLE PAYAS?!

**** yeah!!!

 

[Beren Zaiga]

Your logic that they are dumb enough to not stop after getting tired is just stupid. It doesn't make sense, and in a RL scenario, would not happen, are you saying that the ICs suffer from mental *********** or something? I don't buy that, and I believe it is beyond BS that you are trying to give them muscular degeneration in a way that is unbelievably idiotic.

Just because in the NES game, they never stop, they therefor never stop to rest IRL? Do you know how stupid you're sounding right now? Kids will stop when they are tired just like adults will, and using the NES game to justify that they would do that IRL is just far beyond being illogical, its plain dumb.

Your logic falls short when you try to use a game to justify a behavior that would never really happen in a Real Life Scenario because of the fact that 99.8% of kids or people for that matter, are not that stupid.

Get REL real, REL.

Also.

Not to mention canon MU's kinda suck anyways

Says she who is using canon just to nerf the ICs.

Fail.

 

[REL38]

@Beren

Don't instigate flaming, dude.
Not needed and makes people not take you seriously.

According to many NES titles, accomplishing a goal only took a matter of days, if not less.
Running and leaping through lands without much if a break is very plausible for many characters because they're already fully grown and developed. It's not an impossible task.

But it is an impossible task for kids.
They simply lack the developed muscles to perform such actions.

NES titles run at a constant rate with no apparent breaks.
What's drawn from this?
Mario was determined.
Pit made a sacrifice to accomplish his duty.
IC's aren't smart.

@canon

I'm using game canon to justify my reasons and applying RL to it.
A canon IC's match involves the climbers being able to jump high up and use their mallets.

Big difference.

 

[UncleSam]

do you guys need some support?
ohaider.
have we reached an agreement?

 

[REL38]

@Sam

idunno

So far, Olimar has control over his Pikmin which can swarm IC's and gnash at their faces. Spray gives them adrenaline.
Olimar's punch is like using brass knuckles.

IC's are fat, small kids that have muscle degeneration. Their age would make them avoid any contact with an opponent that has them out numbered.

 

[UncleSam]

@Sam

idunno

So far, Olimar has control over his Pikmin which can swarm IC's and gnash at their faces. Spray gives them adrenaline.
Olimar's punch is like using brass knuckles.

IC's are fat, small kids that have muscle degeneration. Their age would make them avoid any contact with an opponent that has them out numbered.

that's what you think.

there is no indication of a sound amplifier in his suit.
and astronautical suits make contact via radio frequencies.
so if the pikmin can hear and decrypt radio frequencies than go ahead and take the victory for lolimar.
I'm leaving nova for IC's since I don't know where you are on that.

 

[Beren Zaiga]

@Beren

Don't instigate flaming, dude.
Not needed and makes people not take you seriously.

According to many NES titles, accomplishing a goal only took a matter of days, if not less.
Running and leaping through lands without much if a break is very plausible for many characters because they're already fully grown and developed. It's not an impossible task.

But it is an impossible task for kids.
They simply lack the developed muscles to perform such actions.

NES titles run at a constant rate with no apparent breaks.
What's drawn from this?
Mario was determined.
Pit made a sacrifice to accomplish his duty.
IC's aren't smart.

@canon

I'm using game canon to justify my reasons and applying RL to it.
A canon IC's match involves the climbers being able to jump high up and use their mallets.

Big difference.

Oh really? Then...

get a load THIS!!

This kid went to the gym and worked out with his father to achieve that. He is 5 years old at the time that picture is taken. What was that about lacking the developed muscles to do such tasks? I call baloney. If a kid like this can achieve this kind of developed muscle in weight-training, in which he would rest when he was tired, then Ice Climbers would rest when they are tired, and they have the ability to gain that kind of developed muscle tissue.

The only reason the ICs never took a break IN-GAME was because THAT WAS THE OBJECT OF THE GAME: to make it to the TOP of the MOUNTAIN.

The ICs in RL would need climbing equipment in order to climb mountains, thus they are aided by tools to get to the top of a mountain, and if they find a foothold, could take a rest a short ten to twenty minute rest and then continue the endeavor. They therefore need climbing equipment to achieve any sort of climbing, making your logic of the NES game null, since they did not use tools to climb the mountains in the NES game.

There is also the issue of their parka's, which can protect them from the little Pikmin's claws on their hands. Parka's are known for being very thick, thus making them insulated and capable of keeping the Climbers warm in arctic weather conditions. The cleated boots also protect their feed because of how thick they are. The only target the Pikmin have is the IC's faces.

The other thing about the Parkas is that they hide the true physique of the IC's, this is even a prominent feature on muscular adults whom are wearing parkas. You therefore cannot know how well-toned or muscular the IC's are based solely on thier faces because even a person with a muscular body can have fat cheeks.

The ICs ergo are not stupid, not muscularly degenerated, AND can possibly have the strength tto lift their hammers, as well as break Olimar's helmet open and kill the Pikmin beforehand.

End of Story. ICs Win, Olimar's nerfs doom him.

GG. Next MU.

 

[UncleSam]

oh and funny thing while I was image searching olimar.

 

[justaway12]

Beren, look at them, Parkas are NOT that big IRL, they can't possibly have a 6-pack under there.

And you know, they could be doing it worng, even from the game, it shows them bashin blocks (iceblocks?) to progress, that isn't the right way to do it.

And 7 year olds, would hardly be experienced by climbing mountians, they would probably need a guide to help them up there, they can't just say, HEY! LET'S CLIMB A MOUNTIAN!

Basically, they could have been climbing the mountian the WRONG way, I would think they need a adult guide to help them up...

 

[Sieguest]

Problem:

Mewtwo has only been shown to posses such powers through the Anime. Not in Pokemon games. He's just Psychic with great Sp. Attack and Speed, but average defenses.

Ness actually killed ZOMG enemies by the end of Earthbound.
Mewtwo only fights a kid with slaves Pokemon at his disposal.


And exactly how is it affecting anyone else?

Spacies are always in their ships.
Snake is shown to rest/sleep through cutscenes and the end of the games.
Fire Emblem d00ds rest through their dialogue and plot development.
Kirby characters aren't even worth mentioning for obvious reasons.
Samus has save points and the end of the game.
Olimar returns to his ship before night falls.
Pokemon are wild and thusly do whatever they really wanna do. Including eating and resting.
Mario's adventures only take a day or so, tops, to complete his goals. Not difficult to accomplish. He also shows to rest at the end of the game.
Luigi rarely plays an active role. He's usually just chillin'
Peach is captured. What's she even doing?
Bowser is ploting how to foil Mario. He's in his castle. Chillin'
Diddy and Donkey Kong are shown to accomplish their goals in a few days. They rest when visiting "family members" and when they finish the game.
Wario accomplishes his goals in a matter of days. Same as Mario. He's doing w/e in WarioWare.
Zelda does nothing.
Yoshi is fail.
Captain Falcon is in a race car.
Mother Boys are only walking. Ness rests in a hotel. Lucas rests in a hot spring.
Pit is kinda "meh" in regards to how he manages to do everything without rest (age problem).
Ganon is plotting his revenge or w/e against Link in his castle.
Link, depending on games, varies. He could potentially pull it off like Mario does.
R.O.B. is a toy.
Gaymanwatch is made out of the same stuff you find in "Etch n' Sketch".
Ice Climbers have no breaks.


I only see the "rest" thing applying to IC's, Pit and maybe Link.
It doesn't affect much of anyone and hinders but a few characters.

Again using your own logic
that is assumed....
and since you're pushing for non assumption so much
YOU CAN'T ASSUME THAT! PERIOD...
this isn't a one way road...
and on the "IC's are not smart issue"
again, your preaching non assumption
and then assuming....
>___>
It doesn't take brains to know when you're tired...(idiosyncratically speaking).
@Justaway
that's just like me saying
"You don't see a fox going around here do you?"
in fact, now that I think about it, if we're going this far just to nerf characters and are now assuming things even though we weren't supposed to, then let me destroy every character in TDB

Mario- He's only a plumber nothing special, anyone with specialized training in combat will beat him
Luigi- Same as Mario
Yoshi- Malformed and is a sitting duck
Ganondorf- He's from what Medieval times, get a gun and shoot him
Falcon- hmmm looks like he may get by
Lucario- Doesn't exist
Pikachu- Doesn't exist
Charizard- Doesn't exist
Fox- anthropomorphic creatures don't exist
Falco- same as fox
Wolf- Same as fox
Samus (with suit)- Save points don't exist so she doesn't rest...
Samus (with out suit)- an athletic human with a gun
Squirtle- doesn't exist
Ivysaur- doesn't exist
Wario- No where to have bombs he's just a normal human
Bowser- Doesn't exist
GandW- Doesn't exist (except in etch a sketch)
Snake- exists but not loaded with weaponry, probably best one here now
Marth- Medieval person, not advanced enough to compete with people like snake
Kirby- can't move and doesn't exist
Meta Knight- same as above
King DEDEDE- same as above
DK- Is a primate, exists, but outclassed
Diddy Kong- Same as DK
Sonic- same as fox
Ness- boy with bat....
Lucas- boy with stick
Mewtwo- doesn't exist
Jigglypuff- doesn't exist
Toon Link- doesn't exist
Peach- no contest
Zelda- Medieval- outclassed
Shiek- Medieval- outclassed
Pichu- doesn't exist
ICs- apparently too weak to do anything



looke there snake wins according to you REL

 

[Beren Zaiga]

Beren, look at them, Parkas are NOT that big IRL, they can't possibly have a 6-pack under there.

Oh REALLY?

Wrong-wrong-wrong-wrong~!
Wrong-wrong-wrong-wrong~!

YOU'RE WRONG~!

Look at how thick the Fur Parka in the first picture is, that could very well hide a six-pack underneath that. Your logic is baloney, and will be disregarded for that reason.

And 7 year olds, would hardly be experienced by climbing mountians, they would probably need a guide to help them up there, they can't just say, HEY! LET'S CLIMB A MOUNTIAN!

Basically, they could have been climbing the mountian the WRONG way, I would think they need a adult guide to help them up...

Apparently have never seen, or remembered what kids can do when they put their minds to iit.

Also, who says that the Ice Climbers need a guide, you? I don't think they are orphans like REL said. Nowhere does it say that they are orphans at all, that is an ill assumption made based on a lack of information from a game that had no storyline whatsoever. The Ice Climbers could very well have had parents who taught them how to mountain climb because they wanted to share that passion with their kids.

If you want them to have a guide, there is one right there.

 

[REL38]

@Beren

1. That kid underwent training under the supervision of a professional of some sorts. That would have included measured weight training, set times to perform training, diet and rest. That plays a significant role in properly developing "tone" or "bulk", especially in a small child.

That kid had the assisstence of an adult who knew what he was doing.
IC's have no adult to assist them.


2. There is no in-game evidence that IC's rested.
None.
It is mere assumption.

3. The "no-break" method the NES games took is very possible to achieve.
Mario can save the princess in a day or so. He's a grown man.
Samus would have accomplished her mission in a day or so. She's a grown woman.
Pit wouldn't because he's just a kid.
Snake can accomplish his mission in a few days. He's a grown guy.

The "no-break" method only hurts IC's and Pit.
It is plausible for the main character to accomplish their goal without taking any breaks. The reason behind this is mostly due to the main character already having the fully developed muscles and their goal only taking a few days.


4. They had no climbing equipment present. They only utilized their hammers and that's it.
You don't see us giving Mario a monkey wrench just cuz he's a plumber.

5. Parkas hinder movement.
Run with a t-shirt on. Now run with a parka.
Their parkas limit their movement due to there being some bulk present.
True, their only open area are their faces, but Pikmin are shown to climb on top of enemies. Parkas would be very easy to grip and climb on. They reach IC's faces and gnash at them.

6.

Large, rounded faces support them being obese.


@Sam

Olimar has slits in the top portion of his lolxygen tank. They can easily house a small set of speakers. They exist on both sides of the tank.

Olimar uses the knobs on his suit to set the sound frequency.


@Marthage

Give me more specific examples of where I'm assuming.


Wooot



1001 Post!

~desu

 

[justaway12]

Oh REALLY?

Wrong-wrong-wrong-wrong~!
Wrong-wrong-wrong-wrong~!

YOU'RE WRONG~!

Look at how thick the Fur Parka in the first picture is, that could very well hide a six-pack underneath that. Your logic is baloney, and will be disregarded for that reason.

http://www.blinkysrus.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/iceclimbers.jpg
Look under their coats.
You can't see their stomachs, the clothes are covering it because they are fat, the pants are in the way, if it was too big, you would be able to see right through it.

Apparently have never seen, or remembered what kids can do when they put their minds to iit.

Also, who says that the Ice Climbers need a guide, you?

Oh, your right, 7 year old kids can scale mountians on their first go without any help!

As long as they ~*Belive*~!

I don't think they are orphans like REL said. Nowhere does it say that they are orphans at all, that is an ill assumption made based on a lack of information from a game that had no storyline whatsoever. The Ice Climbers could very well have had parents who taught them how to mountain climb because they wanted to share that passion with their kids.

If you want them to have a guide, there is one right there.

I have never said they were orphans =/
They must be some pretty crappy parents to leave their 7 year old kid to SCALE A MOUNTAIN BY THEMSELVES! 7 year old kids should never have to climb a mountian by themselves, they should't handle it without a guide, the fact that they are obese means that they probably didn't have a lot of training, besides, you've seen how they play, they break ice block with their heads! Something is wrong with them =/

Why are we assumeing they have things that they are never shown to have =/

 

[UncleSam]

@Sam

Olimar has slits in the top portion of his lolxygen tank. They can easily house a small set of speakers. They exist on both sides of the tank.

Olimar uses the knobs on his suit to set the sound frequency.

lolwut? the sound frequencies would be projected to the sides of the olimar, it's not direct commanding. It'd throw off the pikmin. and if they exist on both sides of the tank, it'd take up precious space. again space suits just don't work like that. Olimar's suit is built for space travel, not commanding pikmin, what other practical use would said speakers have if he uses radio transmissions?

Wooot



1001 Post!

~desu

3003 posts.

 

[Sieguest]

Looks like imah turn into a troll now...

@Beren

1. That kid underwent training under the supervision of a professional of some sorts. That would have included measured weight training, set times to perform training, diet and rest. That plays a significant role in properly developing "tone" or "bulk", especially in a small child.

That kid had the assisstence of an adult who knew what he was doing.
IC's have no adult to assist them.


2. There is no in-game evidence that IC's rested.
None.
It is mere assumption.

3. The "no-break" method the NES games took is very possible to achieve.
Mario can save the princess in a day or so. He's a grown man.
Samus would have accomplished her mission in a day or so. She's a grown woman.
Pit wouldn't because he's just a kid.
Snake can accomplish his mission in a few days. He's a grown guy.

The "no-break" method only hurts IC's and Pit.
It is plausible for the main character to accomplish their goal without taking any breaks. The reason behind this is mostly due to the main character already having the fully developed muscles and their goal only taking a few days.


4. They had no climbing equipment present. They only utilized their hammers and that's it.
You don't see us giving Mario a monkey wrench just cuz he's a plumber.

5. Parkas hinder movement.
Run with a t-shirt on. Now run with a parka.
Their parkas limit their movement due to there being some bulk present.
True, their only open area are their faces, but Pikmin are shown to climb on top of enemies. Parkas would be very easy to grip and climb on. They reach IC's faces and gnash at them.

6.

Large, rounded faces support them being obese.


@Sam

Olimar has slits in the top portion of his lolxygen tank. They can easily house a small set of speakers. They exist on both sides of the tank.

Olimar uses the knobs on his suit to set the sound frequency.


@Marthage

Give me more specific examples of where I'm assuming.


Wooot



1001 Post!

~desu

Everything in Pink, you can't assume what they are doing in between games, you don't see their life's story in between the games. minimal rest is shown, which isn't substantial enough to rebuild.... "save points" don't exist IRL can't assume resting there either...
and you can't assume what wild pokemon are doing because you always only see them in battle.

http://www.blinkysrus.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/09/iceclimbers.jpg
Look under their coats.
You can't see their stomachs, the clothes are covering it because they are fat, the pants are in the way, if it was too big, you would be able to see right through it.

what?
juxtapose your two sentences seperately and see what you just said.

Oh, your right, 7 year old kids can scale mountians on their first go without any help!

As long as they ~*Belive*~!

That's a bad assumption....

I have never said they were orphans =/
They must be some pretty crappy parents to leave their 7 year old kid to SCALE A MOUNTAIN BY THEMSELVES! 7 year old kids should never have to climb a mountian by themselves, they should't handle it without a guide, the fact that they are obese means that they probably didn't have a lot of training, besides, you've seen how they play, they break ice block with their heads! Something is wrong with them =/

Why are we assumeing they have things that they are never shown to have =/

That's like asking why are we assuming these characters in this whole thread exist...

 

[REL38]

Ima get back to this stuff later.

Won't be on for the next hour or so.
So you'll have to wait for that response Sam

EDIT:

And Marthage

 

[Beren Zaiga]

Oh, your right, 7 year old kids can scale mountians on their first go without any help!

As long as they ~*Belive*~!

You are an idiot for that kind effeminate mockery. I mean they have to work at it you shallow-headed ding-dong.

I have never said they were orphans =/

Apparently your ability to read is many times lower than your ability to comprehend things.

I don't think they are orphans like REL said.

READ, DING-A-LING.

[COLOR="Yellow"
Why are we assumeing they have things that they are never shown to have =/[/COLOR]

WHY IS REL ASSUMING THINGS THAT MAKE ABSOLUTELY NO LOGICAL SENSE WHATSOEVER?!

WHY IS REL BASING HER ASSUMPTION BECAUSE THE GAME LACKED THE CAPABILITY TO SAVE A GAME IN PROGRESS?!!

WHY ARE WE JUST ASSUMING THEY DON'T HAVE THINGS BECAUSE THEY HAVE NEVER BEEN SHOWN TO HAVE THEM?!!!

...

I am going to leave this dicussion before I end up making a page long post that would end up losing the entire point of the whole **** thing by the end of it...

I need a break from this. I'm out for the rest of the night.

 

[justaway12]

what?
juxtapose your two sentences seperately and see what you just said.

Gimme a break, it midnight here =/
And as I said, those are small parkas, if they weren't fat, you would be able to see right trough it

That's a bad assumption....

What is? The 7 years oold thing, or the sarcasm?

That's like asking why are we assuming these characters in this whole thread exist...

No, I'm saying they could very well be orphans, we can't just dismiss the fact that they could be =/
Giving them something they haven't been shown to have anyway is stupid =/

Besides, normal parents would instruct their kids on mountian safety and NOT bash blocks with their head =/
They are fat anyway, so it's not likely they had a chance to be instructed.

@Beren: They can't obviously, they have to do their research, they have to somehow find nessesary equitment, they can't just succeed by trying, they need their ****, I'm not talking about them being kids, I'm talking about them being human. Though, they are kids, and they can't just find everything all willy-nilly

I know you mentioned REL, yet why did you feel the need to bring it up in my post =/
My point was we can't just dismiss it, normal parents won't leace their kids to scale a mountian by themselves =/

My god, calm down, this is just a hypothetical thread of something that is never going to happen, don't get ll wound up >_>

 

[Sieguest]

Gimme a break, it midnight here =/
And as I said, those are small parkas, if they weren't fat, you would be able to see right trough it

... see through a parka?
Parkas are made thick, that's why they're used in frigid temperatures :O

What is? The 7 years oold thing, or the sarcasm?

The sarcasm....

No, I'm saying they could very well be orphans, we can't just dismiss the fact that they could be =/
Giving them something they haven't been shown to have anyway is stupid =/

Making things that don't exist- exist anyway is stupid...>___>

Besides, normal parents would instruct their kids on mountian safety and NOT bash blocks with their head =/

Maybe their parents were crackheads?

They are fat anyway, so it's not likely they had a chance to be instructed

I am sigging this! :D

and
lol at you making Beren Zaiga rage quit the thread
too good! :D

 

[justaway12]

... see through a parka?
Parkas are made thick, that's why they're used in frigid temperatures :O

No, you saw through their parkas, it wasn't that thick.

The sarcasm....

Oh, whatever.

Making things that don't exist- exist anyway is stupid...>___>

Talking about the Pikimen?

Maybe their parents were crackheads?

Yeah, sure, why not, that is still bad for the ICs.

I am sigging this! :D

It's true, you were arguing whether the ICs had a 6-pack or not, they don't

pand
lol at you making Beren Zaiga rage quit the thread
too good! :D

That guy needs to calm down, in such a hypothetical thread, it shouldn't be taken that seriously =/

 

[Emperor Time]

Lol ragequit.

Get *****. My motto is to never put so much effort into a boring as hell mu.
******'s versus alien with plants?

Lolno.

He'll be back.

 

[Sieguest]

No, you saw through their parkas, it wasn't that thick.

since when?

Talking about the Pikimen?

That and all other video game characters....that exist only in the TV...

It's true, you were arguing whether the ICs had a 6-pack or not, they don't

I'm not arguing that
I'm arguing that they aren't muscle degenerated saplings

That guy needs to calm down, in such a hypothetical thread, it shouldn't be taken that seriously =/

You are my heroine for that though
First time I ever saw someone cause someone else to rage quit a thread lol

 

[Emperor Time]

Is that some new sig Marthage?

 

[justaway12]

since when?

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp...ove-super-smash-bros-melee-screenshot-big.jpg
Look at Nana

That and all other video game characters....that exist only in the TV...

Then there wouldn't be a point to this thread.

I'm not arguing that
I'm arguing that they aren't muscle degenerated saplings

Oh, I saw Beren arguing that, or something like that, so I thought.
And another thing, can't Olimar attack by himself?

You are my heroine for that though
First time I ever saw someone cause someone else to rage quit a thread lol

I try :embarrass
I'm surprised you've never seen someone rage-quit a thread

 

[Sieguest]

Is that some new sig Marthage?

DANG STRAIGHT!!! *goes to fix sig*

http://www.videogamesblogger.com/wp...ove-super-smash-bros-melee-screenshot-big.jpg
Look at Nana

oh i c

Then there wouldn't be a point to this thread.

exactly- *looks at REL*

Oh, I saw Beren arguing that, or something like that, so I thought.
And another thing, can't Olimar attack by himself?

yeah but what can he do?

I try :embarrass
I'm surprised you've never seen someone rage-quit a thread

*edits*
well first for everything...
Imah idolize this moment :O

 

[Emperor Time]

LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL.

I like it.

 

[justaway12]

yeah but what can he do?

throw pikimen at them and run up to them when they aren't looking.
What can the ICs do? Their equitment, if they somehow manage to hold it, it wouldn't be easy to attack with, unless they have something else.

*edits*
well first for everything...
Imah idolize this moment :O

I'm going to blush :embarrass

 

[Sieguest]

throw pikimen at them and run up to them when they aren't looking.
What can the ICs do? Their equitment, if they somehow manage to hold it, it wouldn't be easy to attack with, unless they have something else.

Bat the pikmin like baseballs
the hammers aren't unwieldy, light wood is plausible

I'm going to blush :embarrass

don't know what to tell ya :O

 

[justaway12]

Bat the pikmin like baseballs
the hammers aren't unwieldy, light wood is plausible

They club animals to death with it, I doubt it's light.

Oli has 10 pikiman right? If he send five out, can't he steal a hammer while preoccupied?

 

[UncleSam]

They club animals to death with it, I doubt it's light.

it's less about weight, and more about momentum, they wouldn't be ridiculously heavy. or at least they don't have to be.

Oli has 10 pikiman right? If he send five out, can't he steal a hammer while preoccupied?

even buffed up to brawl size IDK if olimar could pick up one of their hammers, or at least take it, while in a space suit.

 

[Sieguest]

They club animals to death with it, I doubt it's light.

Oli has 10 pikiman right? If he send five out, can't he steal a hammer while preoccupied?

The force exerted on something luckily isn't dependent upon weight

F=ma
Basically
it depends on the hammers mass
the hammer could be lightweight and be "massive" in terms of mass comparison,
swinging it at high acceleration would result in a large force being exerted on whoever is in the way.
If olimar sends 5, and there are two climbers, then one climber sweeping the ground will take care of them, and the other climber can bash olimar if he gets to close. or if 10 pikmin come, divi up the then because they are goal oriented the climbers can place each other in the way of the Pikmin targeting the opposite climber. and then bash olimar.

 

[xepherthree]

They club animals to death with it, I doubt it's light.

Oli has 10 pikiman right? If he send five out, can't he steal a hammer while preoccupied?

If IC's can't pick up the hammer, Oli can't.
Even if IC's CAN'T pick up the hammer, I still doubt oli could.

 

[justaway12]

Sweep the floor? Can't they just jump above? Why would they be travelling at the same speed? They would all equally have to get really close to Popo/Nana to actually get hit.

@UncleSam: He doesn't nessesarilly have to pick it up, if he has more back-up, he can just throw it away, not throw it, just make sure that IC doesn't get it.

Oh and what happenend to the poison cloud thing? Debunked?

@Xep: My post was confusing, if it was heavy, then there isn't a point, if it's light, then Oli can take it, we got that out of the way, anyway.

 

[UncleSam]

If IC's can't pick up the hammer, Oli can't.
Even if IC's CAN'T pick up the hammer, I still doubt oli could.

???????????

If IC's can't pick up the hammer, Oli can't.
Even if IC's CAN pick up the hammer, I still doubt oli could.

fix'd

@UncleSam: He doesn't nessesarilly have to pick it up, if he has more back-up, he can just throw it away.

Oh and what happenend to the poison cloud thing? Debunked?

white pikmin would have to be ingested.

 

[xepherthree]

TY Sam :D
I've really failed at typing the last few days.
Y'know, I'm going to get answered by, "the IC's are gentle kids who wouldn't attack unless provoked", but I don't think the Pikmin are incredibly fast.
Couldn't the ICs run up to Oli, Smash his helmet, then let him die of oxygen poisoning?

 

[justaway12]

Who would say they are gentle kids =/
Lots of characters here are like that.

If they get reckless and Olimar gets a free hit in, they could be in a lot of trouble, the ICs don't seem fast as well, their legs seem awfully stubby.
They would start a fair ways away, so Olimar still has plenty of time to see them coming.